by The Informer » Sun Mar 18, 2018 9:54 pm
by tedbullpit » Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:21 pm
The_Informer wrote:ATCA have said that GG go thru by the first innings win but Iggies not accepting this, by laws aren’t real clear on it as well.
by Trader » Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:36 pm
Senor Moto Gadili wrote:bloods08 wrote:Sonofbrowny25 wrote:helicopterking wrote:Woody Rech win on last ball of the day defending 133 in a 30 over match against Ingle Farm
Wowee well Tos win 4 down chasing 196 after being 3/15
Check out the gg old iggies game i don’t know who goes through
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Golden Grove you’d think considering they won on first innings.
I would think the higher ranked team goes through, given it finished as a tie
tedbullpit wrote:The_Informer wrote:ATCA have said that GG go thru by the first innings win but Iggies not accepting this, by laws aren’t real clear on it as well.
Bylaw is clear. In the event of a tie the higher ranked team goes through. No mention of first innings within the bylaw. Iggies should go through
by Down the Hill » Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:57 pm
by thevoice » Sun Mar 18, 2018 11:04 pm
by daysofourlives » Mon Mar 19, 2018 4:05 am
Down the Hill wrote:Correct Trader. Game was drawn as a 4 innings game because can only be a tie if the team batting last is fully dismissed. Therefore GG only team to achieve a result so they must progress. By-law does need tidying up though. Needs to say that a team must win outright to be declared the winner of a final. Imagine if scores are tied with 9 down and one ball to go and the player gets out. Under current bylaw that is a more positive outcome than playing and missing and ending in a draw.
by tigerpie » Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:16 am
thevoice wrote:How did Pooraka not get on for a game this weekend? Do PAOC have a case to put forward here? They would be steaming.
by threestars » Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:34 am
by Brumbies » Mon Mar 19, 2018 9:00 am
tigerpie wrote:thevoice wrote:How did Pooraka not get on for a game this weekend? Do PAOC have a case to put forward here? They would be steaming.
They have covers. Why didn't they go on?
by Lightning McQueen » Mon Mar 19, 2018 9:00 am
thevoice wrote:How did Pooraka not get on for a game this weekend? Do PAOC have a case to put forward here? They would be steaming.
by Senor Moto Gadili » Mon Mar 19, 2018 9:40 am
Brumbies wrote:tigerpie wrote:thevoice wrote:How did Pooraka not get on for a game this weekend? Do PAOC have a case to put forward here? They would be steaming.
They have covers. Why didn't they go on?
Covers were put on on Saturday night.
The bowling run ups were the problem. One end in particular was very wet.
by heater31 » Mon Mar 19, 2018 9:45 am
Isn't it a requirement to host an A1 final you must have covers?Senor Moto Gadili wrote:Brumbies wrote:tigerpie wrote:thevoice wrote:How did Pooraka not get on for a game this weekend? Do PAOC have a case to put forward here? They would be steaming.
They have covers. Why didn't they go on?
Covers were put on on Saturday night.
The bowling run ups were the problem. One end in particular was very wet.
I'm pretty sure Pooraka don't have covers. The covers that were used on Saturday night were provided by PAOC and yes the bowling run ups were the problem. I can understand PAOC being frustrated, but no one can control the weather. Highlights the importance of finishing higher on the ladder and the benefit of having a home final.
by Trader » Mon Mar 19, 2018 9:54 am
heater31 wrote:Isn't it a requirement to host an A1 final you must have covers?Senor Moto Gadili wrote:Brumbies wrote:Covers were put on on Saturday night.
The bowling run ups were the problem. One end in particular was very wet.
I'm pretty sure Pooraka don't have covers. The covers that were used on Saturday night were provided by PAOC and yes the bowling run ups were the problem. I can understand PAOC being frustrated, but no one can control the weather. Highlights the importance of finishing higher on the ladder and the benefit of having a home final.
by tedbullpit » Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:47 am
daysofourlives wrote:Down the Hill wrote:Correct Trader. Game was drawn as a 4 innings game because can only be a tie if the team batting last is fully dismissed. Therefore GG only team to achieve a result so they must progress. By-law does need tidying up though. Needs to say that a team must win outright to be declared the winner of a final. Imagine if scores are tied with 9 down and one ball to go and the player gets out. Under current bylaw that is a more positive outcome than playing and missing and ending in a draw.
Doesnt need to be a by law its covered in gthe laws of cricket unless you want something different to the laws.
It happened in the BLCA 2 years ago and after much correspondance with SACA and reading the laws of cricket it is clear that the result is 1st innings only, as some have said its only a tie if the team batting 4th is dismissed with scores level.
by daysofourlives » Mon Mar 19, 2018 11:57 am
tedbullpit wrote:daysofourlives wrote:Down the Hill wrote:Correct Trader. Game was drawn as a 4 innings game because can only be a tie if the team batting last is fully dismissed. Therefore GG only team to achieve a result so they must progress. By-law does need tidying up though. Needs to say that a team must win outright to be declared the winner of a final. Imagine if scores are tied with 9 down and one ball to go and the player gets out. Under current bylaw that is a more positive outcome than playing and missing and ending in a draw.
Doesnt need to be a by law its covered in gthe laws of cricket unless you want something different to the laws.
It happened in the BLCA 2 years ago and after much correspondance with SACA and reading the laws of cricket it is clear that the result is 1st innings only, as some have said its only a tie if the team batting 4th is dismissed with scores level.
This is where it gets even more confusing as the ATCA Bylaws state - 'In the event of an equality in the aggregate number of runs in which each side has two completed innings, the match shall be regarded as an outright tie.'
by Harry49 » Mon Mar 19, 2018 12:21 pm
by Lightning McQueen » Mon Mar 19, 2018 12:35 pm
Harry49 wrote:Congrats to Walkerville on making the GF in a very hard fought contest. Walkerville were fortunate enough to have the first crack at us on a damp deck and bowled well. we were quite happy with the 170 we posted considering the conditions.
Yesterday, the 2pm start allowed for deck to be fairly batter friendly as the only concern for the umpires was a soggy patch next to the wicket.
Credit where credits due, Walkerville batted superbly. they were about 1/60 off 42 overs at tea after most of the day the overs were exceeding the runs. Haven't played in a game all year where we had next to no lbw shouts or caught behind shouts. They played very low risk cricket (Cox and Perilli in particular) and Knowles came in and accelerated when they were about 3/100.
Overall, very disappointing to bomb out in the semi, but hopefully in 18/19 we can back up the season we just had
All the best to the teams playing in Grand Finals this weekend, especially our B Grade!
by The Informer » Mon Mar 19, 2018 1:18 pm
daysofourlives wrote:tedbullpit wrote:daysofourlives wrote:Down the Hill wrote:Correct Trader. Game was drawn as a 4 innings game because can only be a tie if the team batting last is fully dismissed. Therefore GG only team to achieve a result so they must progress. By-law does need tidying up though. Needs to say that a team must win outright to be declared the winner of a final. Imagine if scores are tied with 9 down and one ball to go and the player gets out. Under current bylaw that is a more positive outcome than playing and missing and ending in a draw.
Doesnt need to be a by law its covered in gthe laws of cricket unless you want something different to the laws.
It happened in the BLCA 2 years ago and after much correspondance with SACA and reading the laws of cricket it is clear that the result is 1st innings only, as some have said its only a tie if the team batting 4th is dismissed with scores level.
This is where it gets even more confusing as the ATCA Bylaws state - 'In the event of an equality in the aggregate number of runs in which each side has two completed innings, the match shall be regarded as an outright tie.'
Yep i believe that is also in the laws of cricket, so then it becomes what is the definition of a completed innings. All out (or declared) is a completed innings nothing else. It pays not to overthink it, if its a Test match everyone is pretty clear that its a draw and not a tie so run with that. Clubs will always see things through their own rose coloured glasses and try and interpret the laws to suit themselves.
I would be very surprised if any other result than a 1st innings win was declared.
by Senor Moto Gadili » Mon Mar 19, 2018 1:31 pm
by The Informer » Mon Mar 19, 2018 1:38 pm
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