by Lightning McQueen » Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:23 am
by cracka » Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:29 am
cracka wrote:Dogwatcher wrote:cracka wrote:Dogwatcher wrote:I'm confused, so many blokes on here don't care about AFLW, but they do care about a transgender person being allowed to play AFLW...
It's more a discussion on should a male to female transgender be able to compete in a female sport. Just so happens to be in the AFLW that its happening
If you don't care about AFLW, if you think it's crap, why does it bother you?
Keep raging.
Please show me the post where I said that.
Dogwatcher wrote:If you aren't among the " so many blokes on here (who) don't care about AFLW" , why respond to my post with roll eyes? Why did it worry you?
by cracka » Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:30 am
Lightning McQueen wrote:I must say, after doing that test thing on Facebook the other night, I would be a very ugly woman.
by nuggety goodness » Fri Feb 16, 2018 10:46 am
by Q. » Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:02 am
MW wrote:Q. wrote:MW wrote:Q, when it's all said and done, can we agree that men have, for whatever reason, the ability to gain strength and size due to their genetic makeup more than women?
If we agree on that, is it fair that a transgender athlete has that strength and size as a man, and can therefore use it against women because he wants to be a she?
Agree on muscle mass yes. If you take an untrained man & woman of same stats, put them on same hypertrophy regime, same diet etc - the man will likely gain more muscle mass over time due to, put simply, higher testosterone (other factors at play, red blood cell count etc)
Mouncey has probably been in a gym due to sport background, so would have made muscle mass gains, and would have benefited from that higher testosterone.
So what do you think happens to her body when she transitions to low testosterone, high estrogen? Loses that muscle, gains fat, loses agility, stamina decreases, endurance decreases.
Over what time frame?
by westcoastpanther » Fri Feb 16, 2018 12:38 pm
by bennymacca » Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:14 pm
westcoastpanther wrote:Casta Semenya???
by Jim05 » Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:22 pm
The Bedge wrote:Out of curiosity, has there been cases worldwide previously of a transgender playing elite sport?
by cracka » Fri Feb 16, 2018 2:15 pm
Jim05 wrote:The Bedge wrote:Out of curiosity, has there been cases worldwide previously of a transgender playing elite sport?
I seem to recall one in the MMA several years ago that broke a girls eye socket in a fight and all hell broke loose.
by Corona Man » Fri Feb 16, 2018 2:18 pm
cracka wrote:Jim05 wrote:The Bedge wrote:Out of curiosity, has there been cases worldwide previously of a transgender playing elite sport?
I seem to recall one in the MMA several years ago that broke a girls eye socket in a fight and all hell broke loose.
I think there was a male to female golfer also
by Bombers4EVA » Fri Feb 16, 2018 2:35 pm
bennymacca wrote:westcoastpanther wrote:Casta Semenya???
She was born with both sex organs. And is a good example of how this is a complex discussion
by morell » Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:32 pm
The Bedge wrote:morell wrote:To the people putting forward the chromosome argument.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XY_sex-de ... ion_system
Humans, as well as some other organisms, can have a chromosomal arrangement that is contrary to their phenotypic sex; for example, XX males or XY females (see androgen insensitivity syndrome). Additionally, an abnormal number of sex chromosomes (aneuploidy) may be present, such as Turner's syndrome, in which a single X chromosome is present, and Klinefelter's syndrome, in which two X chromosomes and a Y chromosome are present, XYY syndrome and XXYY syndrome.[4] Other less common chromosomal arrangements include: triple X syndrome, 48, XXXX, and 49, XXXXX.
tl;dr - its not that simple.
Well that just went right over my head!
by Gozu » Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:34 pm
by DOC » Sat Feb 17, 2018 3:23 pm
by MW » Sat Feb 17, 2018 4:46 pm
by Fricky » Sat Feb 17, 2018 6:19 pm
by valleys07 » Sat Feb 17, 2018 6:42 pm
by amber_fluid » Sat Feb 17, 2018 7:13 pm
valleys07 wrote:Check out the AFLX crowd in Sydney. Makes the AFLW crowd look like a packed house.
Phillips is a freaking jet.
by Gozu » Sat Feb 17, 2018 7:19 pm
by amber_fluid » Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:13 pm
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