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Re: PDCA 2016 - 2017

Postby The Bedge » Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:50 am

Depends also if you have an official umpire - technically by the letter of the law, umpires decisions overall all, so if they call a 5 ball over or a 7 ball over you just have to deal with it.

Generally the scorers will yell out though, and umpires will listen.
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Re: PDCA 2016 - 2017

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Oct 30, 2017 10:53 am

The Bedge wrote:Depends also if you have an official umpire - technically by the letter of the law, umpires decisions overall all, so if they call a 5 ball over or a 7 ball over you just have to deal with it.

Generally the scorers will yell out though, and umpires will listen.


Some, had ones that have told both scorers that they are wrong.
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Re: PDCA 2016 - 2017

Postby Tony Clifton » Mon Oct 30, 2017 11:33 am

Not up to the scorers to yell out. Not their role.

No more than it is for the scorers (or anyone else) to yell out that they heard an inside edge after an lbw was given out.

Umpires umpire. Sure, they make mistakes (plenty) but just add 5 ball or 7 ball overs to the list of errors they make.
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Re: PDCA 2016 - 2017

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Oct 30, 2017 11:36 am

Tony Clifton wrote:Not up to the scorers to yell out. Not their role.

No more than it is for the scorers (or anyone else) to yell out that they heard an inside edge after an lbw was given out.

Umpires umpire. Sure, they make mistakes (plenty) but just add 5 ball or 7 ball overs to the list of errors they make.

I always used to yell out, well it depended on who was bowling.
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Re: PDCA 2016 - 2017

Postby BenchedEagle » Mon Oct 30, 2017 11:37 am

The Bedge wrote:Depends also if you have an official umpire - technically by the letter of the law, umpires decisions overall all, so if they call a 5 ball over or a 7 ball over you just have to deal with it.

Generally the scorers will yell out though, and umpires will listen.

Was the Batting captain.
Was a proper umpire, im sure nothing wouldve been said if they got 4 runs instead of glancing it to me at short leg!
Scorer had ample time to call out to umpire, he didnt, too bad.
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Re: PDCA 2016 - 2017

Postby Lightning McQueen » Mon Oct 30, 2017 11:38 am

duncs wrote:
The Bedge wrote:Depends also if you have an official umpire - technically by the letter of the law, umpires decisions overall all, so if they call a 5 ball over or a 7 ball over you just have to deal with it.

Generally the scorers will yell out though, and umpires will listen.

Was the Batting captain.
Was a proper umpire, im sure nothing wouldve been said if they got 4 runs instead of glancing it to me at short leg!
Scorer had ample time to call out to umpire, he didnt, too bad.

Yep, of course he'd dispute it, depending on the club he probably whinged about it all night too.
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Re: PDCA 2016 - 2017

Postby The Bedge » Mon Oct 30, 2017 12:37 pm

duncs wrote:
The Bedge wrote:Depends also if you have an official umpire - technically by the letter of the law, umpires decisions overall all, so if they call a 5 ball over or a 7 ball over you just have to deal with it.

Generally the scorers will yell out though, and umpires will listen.

Was the Batting captain.
Was a proper umpire, im sure nothing wouldve been said if they got 4 runs instead of glancing it to me at short leg!
Scorer had ample time to call out to umpire, he didnt, too bad.

Stuff em. :lol:
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Re: PDCA 2016 - 2017

Postby Eggy » Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:45 am

The Bedge wrote:
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Homer J wrote:Not sure if I missed something but what happened to NEK A's Grade 2 points for their outright win in round 1 - Ladder only shows them getting 5.66 points for the win? should be like 20 points, shouldn't it?

Lost 13.4 due to a breach with 'dual registration"?

Hmm, tough initiation.

Would have to be Tyler Grainger-Balding surely? Registered with Ingle Farm in ATCA still, but played Rd 1 with NEK?


NEK still waiting on clarification on the breach.
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Re: PDCA 2016 - 2017

Postby The Bedge » Tue Oct 31, 2017 12:00 pm

Eggy wrote:NEK still waiting on clarification on the breach.


* Dual registration can only be obtained and registered by using the appropriate form supplied by the Association and/or entering the appropriate data into the approved data base. A completed Dual Registration Form will show the player’s primary club/association (where the player was first registered) and the secondary club/association (with whom the player now wants to play for). The Association is the only body in the PDCA to enter dual registrations into MyCricket.

* Dual registrations must be lodged with the Association Secretary or his/her nominated proxy prior to the player participating in any match.

* Dual registrations can be between PDCA and other community associations if the club is a member of both associations:
(a) dual registration must be obtained from both associations.
(b) a permit must be obtained before every match the player plays in the PDCA if he
normally plays with the other association.


Tyler played 4x B2, 1x C3 and 10x U15 games at IFDCC last year - zero at NEK, therefore IFDCC would be his primary club, and a permit to play at NEK required, particularly since no clearance had gone through.
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Re: PDCA 2016 - 2017

Postby The Bedge » Tue Oct 31, 2017 12:03 pm

LM where is the update for tipping lol?
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Re: PDCA 2016 - 2017

Postby Lightning McQueen » Tue Oct 31, 2017 12:10 pm

The Bedge wrote:LM where is the update for tipping lol?

EOM, I'm flat chat at the moment, I'm flat chat ATM.

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Re: PDCA 2016 - 2017

Postby Eggy » Tue Oct 31, 2017 2:37 pm

The Bedge wrote:
Eggy wrote:NEK still waiting on clarification on the breach.


* Dual registration can only be obtained and registered by using the appropriate form supplied by the Association and/or entering the appropriate data into the approved data base. A completed Dual Registration Form will show the player’s primary club/association (where the player was first registered) and the secondary club/association (with whom the player now wants to play for). The Association is the only body in the PDCA to enter dual registrations into MyCricket.

* Dual registrations must be lodged with the Association Secretary or his/her nominated proxy prior to the player participating in any match.

* Dual registrations can be between PDCA and other community associations if the club is a member of both associations:
(a) dual registration must be obtained from both associations.
(b) a permit must be obtained before every match the player plays in the PDCA if he
normally plays with the other association.


Tyler played 4x B2, 1x C3 and 10x U15 games at IFDCC last year - zero at NEK, therefore IFDCC would be his primary club, and a permit to play at NEK required, particularly since no clearance had gone through.



Not sure he is the player in question ?
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Re: PDCA 2016 - 2017

Postby The Bedge » Tue Oct 31, 2017 2:47 pm

Eggy wrote:Not sure he is the player in question ?

Maybe he's not - just a guess looking over that side. Can only be one of two people..

Josh Wilhelm - cleared to NEK 4th October
Cam Smith - Regular NEK player
Lee Mills - Regular NEK player
Pete Atkins - Regular NEK player
Brian Domeika - Regular
Jeff Domeika - Regular
Luke Levi - Regular
Cam Breeze - Regular
Steve Prisk - Regular
Justin Ellul - Regular

Andrew Balding - Possibly him since he was IFDCC coach last year, and played all season in B2.
Tyler Grainger-Balding - Possibly him since he played regular cricket at IFDCC last year.

Perhaps it's because of both Balding's?

Taking all 10 wickets in the 1st innings between them, 13 for the match and 95 runs between them, fair to say it's a pretty significant contribution.
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Re: PDCA 2016 - 2017

Postby The Bedge » Tue Oct 31, 2017 2:50 pm

Note - Andrew Balding was cleared from NEK to IF 7th October 2016.. and never cleared back.
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Re: PDCA 2016 - 2017

Postby Eggy » Tue Oct 31, 2017 2:52 pm

So Tyler wasn't cleared from NEK? Hmmm interesting...
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Re: PDCA 2016 - 2017

Postby The Bedge » Tue Oct 31, 2017 2:58 pm

Eggy wrote:So Tyler wasn't cleared from NEK? Hmmm interesting...

Tyler along with Aaron Holloway were transferred from Ingle Farm to NEK in C&CCA in 2015 to fill in on Saturdays as a dual registration while playing Jnrs on Sundays.

Ingle Farm were then, and still remain, their primary club, and no additional permit for dual rego has ever been sought.

Given that they played senior cricket last year with Ingle Farm, i'd imagine a clearance would've been required Rd 1 to play for NEK, unless permit was sought.

So my answer is - they're both in the wrong.
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Re: PDCA 2016 - 2017

Postby Eggy » Tue Oct 31, 2017 3:04 pm

Cool. So with a permit they're fine....
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Re: PDCA 2016 - 2017

Postby The Bedge » Tue Oct 31, 2017 3:06 pm

Eggy wrote:Cool. So with a permit they're fine....

I guess so.. you're asking the wrong person :lol:

The permit would need to be approved by IFDCC, ATCA and PDCA though - you're probably better off just clearing them back to NEK.

Have a read over the policy:

http://pdca.sa.cricket.com.au/files/198 ... 202017.pdf
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Re: PDCA 2016 - 2017

Postby Eggy » Tue Oct 31, 2017 3:07 pm

You mean by Gordon, David and Peter...
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Re: PDCA 2016 - 2017

Postby The Bedge » Tue Oct 31, 2017 3:09 pm

Eggy wrote:You mean by Gordon, David and Peter...

Chris Pike, David and Peter I would imagine.
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