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Postby - » Thu Mar 02, 2006 8:15 pm

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Booney wrote:Please gentlemen,dont even contemplate comparing your clubs to the Port Adelaide football club,falling short is a certainty.

I fail to see where your argument is based -'er,who is rating Norwood,other than you,and how do you support them being "over-rated",if no one but your good self is involved in the process?

I think,you dont rate them,most football followers in SA would respect them greatly,and this you have trouble understanding.


I respect them greatly as the 2nd most successful club in the comp. They are miles behind 1st but like to think of themselves as close to them. The average bloke in the pub rates them closer to port than they actually are. This is why I think they are overrated.


I'd hate to see what you'd say about the Redlegs if you didn't respect them! Norwood are further ahead of Sturt and North in terms of premierships than they are behind Port so that means the 3rd and 4th most successfull clubs in league history are friggin miles away! While you are checking out just how far behind Norwood are to Port, check out the Norwood v Port Grand finals head to head stats and Norwood v Port head to head in finals overall. Norwood compare favourably..you know how I found this out..by reading John Wood's History of Port Adelaide that was owned by a Port supporter mate of mine (a mutual friend of ours Booney).

FFS!! :roll: Who are you mate, Graham Frigging Cornes??

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So you are one of those people who really believe 27 premierships is a true indication of Norwoods success. Good luck to you because you head is in the clouds. Try since 1900 16 to Norwood and 13 each to North and Sturt. That is when we have all been on a level playing field infact Sturt started a bit later than that.

Keep in mind I am not denying the fact Norwood are number 2 here. I recognise the fact that Norwood are comfortably ahead of North and Sturt in head to head records. I also acknowledge the fact that Norwood make finals roughly 3 in every 4 years and North and Sturt are only marginally better than 1 in every 2.

I don't particularly like the head to head finals records as an argument because you can play a certain team when you are the better side and when they are better than you they get to play another club and as a result they don't get the right to even the scores up. Finals head to heads are a lot about timing. The only head to head records I take note of are all inclusive ones. My point here is that North have a head to head finals advantage over Norwood and I really don't believe that is a true reflection because Norwood are roughly 140-110 ahead overall.

Anyone who says Port are only 50 50 in Grand Finals ought to take note of the fact that on a lot of those occasions they have probably exceeded expectations in reaching the Grand Final. Add to that some of their 2nds were recorded before Grand Finals were contested. I would argue that in the majority of cases the best team wins the Grand Final. In fact I would say in the last 20 or so years 84 and 94 are the only time where the outsider has won the Grand Final. I would say Sturt 02, and Glenelg 86 were only marginal outsiders. Port 89, Port 96 and Port 98 were genuine 50 50's. I spose you could argue that Centrals 2000 was 50 50 also.
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Postby - » Thu Mar 02, 2006 8:19 pm

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Booney wrote:Hmmm,I fail to see where the next best falls into the over-rated section.I would have thought a Glenelg would be over rated.


Id agree with that. Glenelg are more overrated than Norwood.


I disagree, I don't know one person that rates Glenelg let alone over rates them.

They've got no supporters, they're going to be bottom in 2006, their history is mediocre or dismal at the very best, if that's over rating them I'd hate to see what under rating them would be! :?


I agree with you there Wedgie. However for the most part people who we commuicate with and on this site are fairly educated in SANFL.

Your average sucker in the pub or even people interstate are staggered when you present the real facts about Glenelg to them. I know this more than most being a North supporter we are continually underestimated.
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Postby am Bays » Thu Mar 02, 2006 8:45 pm

As I've said before **** on other threads you 30+ blokes are jealous that Winky Dink followed the mighty Bays and not your team so when you were watching Chanel Niners and the cartoons on S'day morning with Robin Roenfeldt, you were all green with Envy that W inky would always say, "come on the Tigers!!!!" With the exception of Port we were the most successful team of the 80s when you were all grewing up. You hated us then and now you are all taking great delight in that we are having a down period!!

Seriously classic Australian tall poppy syndrome, kick successful ones when they are down.

The more this goes on the more I feel like Millwall - no one likes us and we don't care - but I know the mighty Tiger will rise again and nothing is more certain than another Glenelg premiership, especially if we are playing North in the GF!!

If you weren't envious or jealous you wouldn't bag us!!

Personally I couldn't give a flying about what you think, and I know "youse" are going to ridicule this post so go on give your best shot...

Enjoy it while you can boys and girls because it is in our blood to make finals so ooner or later the other eight of you are going to have to draw straw to see who joins us in September/October
Let that be a lesson to you Port, no one beats the Bays five times in a row in a GF and gets away with it!!!
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Postby - » Thu Mar 02, 2006 9:03 pm

1980 Tassie Medalist wrote:As I've said before **** on other threads you 30+ blokes are jealous that Winky Dink followed the mighty Bays and not your team so when you were watching Chanel Niners and the cartoons on S'day morning with Robin Roenfeldt, you were all green with Envy that W inky would always say, "come on the Tigers!!!!" With the exception of Port we were the most successful team of the 80s when you were all grewing up. You hated us then and now you are all taking great delight in that we are having a down period!!

Seriously classic Australian tall poppy syndrome, kick successful ones when they are down.

The more this goes on the more I feel like Millwall - no one likes us and we don't care - but I know the mighty Tiger will rise again and nothing is more certain than another Glenelg premiership, especially if we are playing North in the GF!!

If you weren't envious or jealous you wouldn't bag us!!

Personally I couldn't give a flying about what you think, and I know "youse" are going to ridicule this post so go on give your best shot...

Enjoy it while you can boys and girls because it is in our blood to make finals so ooner or later the other eight of you are going to have to draw straw to see who joins us in September/October


Norwood won 2 flags in the 80s aswell mate. Apart from a 25 year period your club is an embarrasment and deep down you know it more than anyone being a Glenelg supporter.
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Postby am Bays » Thu Mar 02, 2006 9:38 pm

- wrote:Norwood won 2 flags in the 80s aswell mate. Apart from a 25 year period your club is an embarrasment and deep down you know it more than anyone being a Glenelg supporter.


So it is a countback a la the old Magaray, we both share 2 BOGs, we've got 4 2nd votes Norwood got one 1, Norwood got 4 3rd best we've got one , we win 15 votes to 12

FWIW Port get 15 votes too for the 80s but obviously win on a countback!!

PS FWIW If wasn't for that Norwood supporting Argent rubbing out Carey in the 84 Qualifying final.......
Let that be a lesson to you Port, no one beats the Bays five times in a row in a GF and gets away with it!!!
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Postby Rik E Boy » Fri Mar 03, 2006 8:27 am

Cornsey Wrote "PS FWIW If wasn't for that Norwood supporting Argent rubbing out Carey in the 84 Qualifying final......."

If But CLANG!! Why would anybody be jealous of a side that continously lost grand finals and has only won four flags over the journey? No, unless you barrack for the Chooks, you LOVE Glenelg becaue a Grand Final against the Bays meant a premiership.

For Those That Came in Late: 1969,70,74,75,77,81,82, 87,88, 90,92. Yep, I wish my club lost all those Grand Finals LMAO. You are a funny man Cornsey!!

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Postby Lunchcutter » Fri Mar 03, 2006 12:52 pm

Rik E Boy wrote:Cornsey Wrote "PS FWIW If wasn't for that Norwood supporting Argent rubbing out Carey in the 84 Qualifying final......."

If But CLANG!! Why would anybody be jealous of a side that continously lost grand finals and has only won four flags over the journey? No, unless you barrack for the Chooks, you LOVE Glenelg becaue a Grand Final against the Bays meant a premiership.

For Those That Came in Late: 1969,70,74,75,77,81,82, 87,88, 90,92. Yep, I wish my club lost all those Grand Finals LMAO. You are a funny man Cornsey!!

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Postby am Bays » Fri Mar 03, 2006 1:08 pm

Ta Rik, I'm feeling the love!!!
Let that be a lesson to you Port, no one beats the Bays five times in a row in a GF and gets away with it!!!
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Postby Strawb » Fri Mar 03, 2006 6:31 pm

you want over rated Gary Ayres my friends say no more on that.
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Postby bay_girl23 » Sat Mar 04, 2006 3:17 pm

As I've said before **** on other threads you 30+ blokes are jealous that Winky Dink followed the mighty Bays and not your team so when you were watching Chanel Niners and the cartoons on S'day morning with Robin Roenfeldt, you were all green with Envy that W inky would always say, "come on the Tigers!!!!" With the exception of Port we were the most successful team of the 80s when you were all grewing up. You hated us then and now you are all taking great delight in that we are having a down period!!

Seriously classic Australian tall poppy syndrome, kick successful ones when they are down.

The more this goes on the more I feel like Millwall - no one likes us and we don't care - but I know the mighty Tiger will rise again and nothing is more certain than another Glenelg premiership, especially if we are playing North in the GF!!

If you weren't envious or jealous you wouldn't bag us!!

Personally I couldn't give a flying about what you think, and I know "youse" are going to ridicule this post so go on give your best shot...

Enjoy it while you can boys and girls because it is in our blood to make finals so ooner or later the other eight of you are going to have to draw straw to see who joins us in September/October


Well said Tassie Medalist. I'm about ten years too young to remember first hand any of the grand finals in the 80's, but I have seen them on tape in recent years. People take great joy in taking the piss out of Glenelg supporters, but I'm a very proud Glenelg supporter and I don't give a s**t what they have to say about our mighty club! Centrals supporters have every right to stand tall and look down on the rest of the SANFL teams cause they have had the success in recent years. But what about the supporters from other clubs that are always first to bag Glenelg? South supporters often bitch about Glenelg, as do Eagles supporters. It's not like either have had a lot of success in recent years. Yeah, Eagles always make the grand final because there is no better opposition (where are you now North?!), then manage to get one massive bitch slap from the Doggies. How does that make them any better than Glenelg when they continued to lose grand finals? Same scenario, different decade.

All teams have spent time at the bottom of the ladder. I agree that many of the people posting on here are old enough to be bitter and twisted about Glenelgs previous success. Each club has its time at the bottom. Our time is near and we're going to come back strong and be a powerhouse of the SANFL. Glenelg has a LOT of supporters. Yeah, we have a lot of woodwork supporters, as much as I hate to say that. But when Glenelg come back strong, they are going to come back in force. We will be back!
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Postby MUNGO JERRY » Sat Mar 04, 2006 4:07 pm

bay_girl23 wrote:
As I've said before **** on other threads you 30+ blokes are jealous that Winky Dink followed the mighty Bays and not your team so when you were watching Chanel Niners and the cartoons on S'day morning with Robin Roenfeldt, you were all green with Envy that W inky would always say, "come on the Tigers!!!!" With the exception of Port we were the most successful team of the 80s when you were all grewing up. You hated us then and now you are all taking great delight in that we are having a down period!!

Seriously classic Australian tall poppy syndrome, kick successful ones when they are down.

The more this goes on the more I feel like Millwall - no one likes us and we don't care - but I know the mighty Tiger will rise again and nothing is more certain than another Glenelg premiership, especially if we are playing North in the GF!!

If you weren't envious or jealous you wouldn't bag us!!

Personally I couldn't give a flying about what you think, and I know "youse" are going to ridicule this post so go on give your best shot...

Enjoy it while you can boys and girls because it is in our blood to make finals so ooner or later the other eight of you are going to have to draw straw to see who joins us in September/October


Well said Tassie Medalist. I'm about ten years too young to remember first hand any of the grand finals in the 80's, but I have seen them on tape in recent years. People take great joy in taking the piss out of Glenelg supporters, but I'm a very proud Glenelg supporter and I don't give a s**t what they have to say about our mighty club! Centrals supporters have every right to stand tall and look down on the rest of the SANFL teams cause they have had the success in recent years. But what about the supporters from other clubs that are always first to bag Glenelg? South supporters often bitch about Glenelg, as do Eagles supporters. It's not like either have had a lot of success in recent years. Yeah, Eagles always make the grand final because there is no better opposition (where are you now North?!), then manage to get one massive bitch slap from the Doggies. How does that make them any better than Glenelg when they continued to lose grand finals? Same scenario, different decade.

All teams have spent time at the bottom of the ladder. I agree that many of the people posting on here are old enough to be bitter and twisted about Glenelgs previous success. Each club has its time at the bottom. Our time is near and we're going to come back strong and be a powerhouse of the SANFL. Glenelg has a LOT of supporters. Yeah, we have a lot of woodwork supporters, as much as I hate to say that. But when Glenelg come back strong, they are going to come back in force. We will be back!


Seems to me bay girl size 23, alot of glenelg supporters inc. youself have a chip on your shoulders for being such under achievers. I like your optimism about the ressurection of The Glenelg Footy club though and I'm sure Glenelg will be a force again in about 20 years, just in time for the snowts to mature as a group.
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Postby bay_girl23 » Sat Mar 04, 2006 4:37 pm

Seems to me bay girl size 23, alot of glenelg supporters inc. youself have a chip on your shoulders for being such under achievers. I like your optimism about the ressurection of The Glenelg Footy club though and I'm sure Glenelg will be a force again in about 20 years, just in time for the snowts to mature as a group.


At least the Snouts know how to have fun! I think that you shouldn't be so bitter and twisted about everything and ready to shoot down any one that doesn't share your opinion. The Glenelg supporters on this website and Snouts Louts are passionate about this great club and your opinion has no regard to us.
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Postby spell_check » Sat Mar 04, 2006 7:51 pm

bay_girl23 wrote:
As I've said before **** on other threads you 30+ blokes are jealous that Winky Dink followed the mighty Bays and not your team so when you were watching Chanel Niners and the cartoons on S'day morning with Robin Roenfeldt, you were all green with Envy that W inky would always say, "come on the Tigers!!!!" With the exception of Port we were the most successful team of the 80s when you were all grewing up. You hated us then and now you are all taking great delight in that we are having a down period!!

Seriously classic Australian tall poppy syndrome, kick successful ones when they are down.

The more this goes on the more I feel like Millwall - no one likes us and we don't care - but I know the mighty Tiger will rise again and nothing is more certain than another Glenelg premiership, especially if we are playing North in the GF!!

If you weren't envious or jealous you wouldn't bag us!!

Personally I couldn't give a flying about what you think, and I know "youse" are going to ridicule this post so go on give your best shot...

Enjoy it while you can boys and girls because it is in our blood to make finals so ooner or later the other eight of you are going to have to draw straw to see who joins us in September/October


Well said Tassie Medalist. I'm about ten years too young to remember first hand any of the grand finals in the 80's, but I have seen them on tape in recent years. People take great joy in taking the piss out of Glenelg supporters, but I'm a very proud Glenelg supporter and I don't give a s**t what they have to say about our mighty club! Centrals supporters have every right to stand tall and look down on the rest of the SANFL teams cause they have had the success in recent years. But what about the supporters from other clubs that are always first to bag Glenelg? South supporters often bitch about Glenelg, as do Eagles supporters. It's not like either have had a lot of success in recent years. Yeah, Eagles always make the grand final because there is no better opposition (where are you now North?!), then manage to get one massive bitch slap from the Doggies. How does that make them any better than Glenelg when they continued to lose grand finals? Same scenario, different decade.

All teams have spent time at the bottom of the ladder. I agree that many of the people posting on here are old enough to be bitter and twisted about Glenelgs previous success. Each club has its time at the bottom. Our time is near and we're going to come back strong and be a powerhouse of the SANFL. Glenelg has a LOT of supporters. Yeah, we have a lot of woodwork supporters, as much as I hate to say that. But when Glenelg come back strong, they are going to come back in force. We will be back!


Uh, bay_girl23, I for one do not bag Glenelg supporters. Tell me who does and I'll have a word with them.
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Postby - » Sun Mar 05, 2006 10:40 am

bay_girl23 wrote:
Seems to me bay girl size 23, alot of glenelg supporters inc. youself have a chip on your shoulders for being such under achievers. I like your optimism about the ressurection of The Glenelg Footy club though and I'm sure Glenelg will be a force again in about 20 years, just in time for the snowts to mature as a group.


At least the Snouts know how to have fun! I think that you shouldn't be so bitter and twisted about everything and ready to shoot down any one that doesn't share your opinion. The Glenelg supporters on this website and Snouts Louts are passionate about this great club and your opinion has no regard to us.


Define greatness? I don't think Glenelg would come under it.
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Postby Magpiespower » Sun Mar 05, 2006 10:44 am

1980 Tassie Medalist wrote:
PS FWIW If wasn't for that Norwood supporting Argent rubbing out Carey in the 84 Qualifying final.......


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Postby duncs7 » Sun Mar 05, 2006 2:59 pm

Strawb07 wrote:you want over rated Gary Ayres my friends say no more on that.
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Postby JK » Sun Mar 05, 2006 4:44 pm

Anyone with half a football brain would rate Gary Ayres the player ... As for his coaching exploits, well, thats another matter altogether!!
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Postby RustyCage » Sun Mar 05, 2006 11:19 pm

1980 Tassie Medalist wrote:You hated us then and now you are all taking great delight in that we are having a down period!!

If you weren't envious or jealous you wouldn't bag us!!


I cant say Im jealous of anything the Glenelg Football Club has ever done.
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Postby bay_girl23 » Mon Mar 06, 2006 12:57 pm

Uh, bay_girl23, I for one do not bag Glenelg supporters. Tell me who does and I'll have a word with them.


Cheers spell_check, but you are in a minority. On this thread alone, Booney, Wedgie, Rik E Boy, Mungo Jerry and pafc1870 have all taken a stab at Glenelg. If only we lived in a world where everyone loved and respected the greatest football club, the mighty Glenelg Tigers :D
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Postby bay_girl23 » Mon Mar 06, 2006 12:58 pm

Uh, bay_girl23, I for one do not bag Glenelg supporters. Tell me who does and I'll have a word with them.


Cheers spell_check, but you are in a minority. On this thread alone, Booney, Wedgie, Rik E Boy, Mungo Jerry and pafc1870 have all taken a stab at Glenelg. If only we lived in a world where everyone loved and respected the greatest football club, the mighty Glenelg Tigers :D
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