Rd 20 2007 Eagles v North

[Mickyj]

Lets look at Norths AFL inclusions they all started off well.Then We all jumped on Perrie as we are mainly crows fans and he fell in a big hole .
The other two afl players did well but I truly was not following them closely.
Wedgies ruck count is interesting I thought the EAGLE pair were doing ok Dobber appeared slightly down .But the combined effort yesterday was far better than the game against Sturt IMHO.

North's speed at ground level was a telling factor in the first half and perhaps in the last quarter.But once Ron got the matchups right after halftime the EAGLES reeled the Roosters in and let Lomas and Fairclough off their chains.
This worried me at 3/4 time as in the last few weeks the EAGLEs have come home strongly I was rightly worried that they may have run too early.But the eagles dug deep and come home with the win.

Back on the AFL inclusions Andrew Rodgers and his baby eagles were the big losers from the above inclusions for north.Those inclusions helped north run all over the eagles seconds.the young eagles need to find a full forward for the purpose of depth .

[Wedgie]

Good point about the 2nds, it was close for most of the first half until North kicked 5 in a row.
Wundke starred in the ressies and you're right as he would have been playing league if not for the AFL inclusions.

[topsywaldron]

15 Minute Mark - Police Dog Squad arranged for the search of Woodville Oval , Parents are beside themselves.

Post of the thread so far.

PPS You'd be just about the only Eagles fan I haven't met yet, got an interesting assessment of you from a fellow Eagles fan yesterday though.

Will watch the tape of this game with a lot of interest.

[cd]

When 2 clubs who view each other with respect have a tight hard tussle with each dominating at certain times eg Eagles 3rd quarter, North comeback in last to hit the front and really nothing in it at the end - we are all allowed to be passionate, and really supporting our teams.

Thats what i reckon this thread has been about.

Wedgie - you are 100% correct - our NON Pokie facility at Woodville Oval is a great spot not just on footy days but through the week Wednesday to Sunday - all welcome with TAB, Keno, lotteries, bar and bistro - all meals only $6.50 with Members Night on Thursday and for members showing membership badge drinks discount at all times.

[Jimmy]

yet, very few posts have dealt with the problems north can control, like how they let a lead slip like that??

That's a good point Jimmy, some have on here and The Roost but those posts are definately in the minority.
As my hangover and anger clears I'll try to analyse other aspects of the game.

I'll start with the ruck as the ruck contests between North and Eagles always intrigue me with O'Hara being an ex Eagle.
It was damn close contest with North just managing to keep their 2007 undefeated hitouts versus the competition in tact (31 - 29).

But just analyising the ruckmen its intriguing as to how close their stats were as it was a great battle:

Wakelin & O'Hara 27 hitouts
Lindsay & Dabrowski 27 hitouts

Wakelin & O'Hara 15 possessions
Lindsay & Dabrowski 7 possessions

Wakelin & O'Hara 5 marks
Lindsay & Dabrowski 1 mark

Wakelin & O'Hara 2 tackles
Linday & Dabrowski 3 tackles

well, according to reports, north had them for 3 qtrs so i'd expect the stats to favour north with most possies, but as we all know it not how many you get but what you do with the ones you get. obviously the eags just used it better, maybe more direct and efficient.

still, whats more worrying is that the eags are getting back to flag form, bastards

[Aerie]

PS Aerie, instead of making ridiculously generalistic sweeping statements feel free to address the actual content of posts and explain where in your opinion they were wrong. Cheers.

OK. I'll give your rundown a go. This will take my very best editing skills to conquer...

Just finished watching the game on TV.

Eagles win toss.

1st quarter:

2.35 mark B.White goes down with hamstring.

Eagles 1st goal was actually off McIntyres leg, umpires cost us 5 pts

I'll take your word for it, haven't seen the replay and I was far away from that end.

North 1st goal from strong D.White goal, no umpire influence.

Was that not as a result from the Perrie mark which was taken out on the full, right in front of "bubba" goraw and his mates?

11.48 mark, take note -, Banger runs back into the pack with Dabrowski bearing down on him and commentator mentions how he does that week in week out and how he's to be admired.

Banger did go back with courage, but still dropped the mark. He heard the footsteps which caused him to spill it.

15.52 mark, Perrie takes a mark 60 metres out, the Eagles Hier runs over the mark by 5 to 10 metres (commentators even made mention) no 25 m penalty, no goal from resultant play.

5 to 10 metres? I think you're telling porkies. That was right in front of me and was no different to tactics used throughout the year, which I have mentioned previously. I think the umpires need to get more strict on it, but that's how things have gone right throughout the year.

Ok... I can't be bothered going through the rest, but I think your opinion is a one-sided view of everything. As mine probably is. North got a number of frees from diving when they got the ball which were called push in the backs. One of which was a shot at goal in the 3rd quarter which was missed. O'Hara got a free in the middle because Cica chested him. That was a joke. Free kicks were just about even overall. Our forward pressure and back line discipline was better and resulted in some frees.

PS. Loved watching Ladhams get stuck into Hier near the North cheersquad pocket. Chesting him, pushing him and young Hier just put out the arm, Ladhams dropped like a sack of potatoes holding his face and the umpires ignored him. Stayed on the ground for about 30 seconds. Haven't seen a player embarrassed like that since Kane Cornes against Barry Hall last year.

[FlyingHigh]

You haven't met me either Wedgie!! not that I can get to too many games at the moment.

Finals will be interesting. I can't see the Eagles beating Centrals, but I can see Sturt and North doing so (not because they've done it during the minor round), but can't really see these two beating the Eagles when it's all on the line.

Question of interest - is Guidfreffa injured or has he quit the club, because there was a P Guidreffa in the div 2 amatuers inn todays paper.

[FlyingHigh]

While these arguments about umpires will go on forever, the great thing about the Eagles over the last few weeks has been the way the young players have handled themselves in tough situations, blokes like Hier, J Stewart, Fairclough, Pavlich, Guidreffa (or so I thought), Salter before injury - all debutants this year, except for Hier (5 games).

Lomas, too, stringnig a few games together and showing what he can do. Fiacchi maturing as a player.

[Wedgie]

While these arguments about umpires will go on forever, the great thing about the Eagles over the last few weeks has been the way the young players have handled themselves in tough situations, blokes like Hier, J Stewart, Fairclough, Pavlich, Guidreffa (or so I thought), Salter before injury - all debutants this year, except for Hier (5 games).

Lomas, too, stringnig a few games together and showing what he can do. Fiacchi maturing as a player.

That J Stewart is a gun, LEH and EHL told me to keep an eye on him when I caught up with them before the game and he didn't disappoint, he looks all class. What's his background?

[cd]

Pat G played in twos - no issue at all - and was at presentations after game

[FlyingHigh]

J Stewart just come up through the juniors, probably still eligible for U/19's. Not sure if he's Paul's brother.

FWIW would Paul Stewart be a better choice than Schwarze? From what I've seen, Schwarze seems inconsistent and sometimes thinks it should be easier because he's been an AFL player. Perhaps those who've sen more games than me this year can comment?

[FlyingHigh]

Thanks cd. Would have been disappointed if he had, because he's played some good footy for a young player this year.

[Mickyj]

While these arguments about umpires will go on forever, the great thing about the Eagles over the last few weeks has been the way the young players have handled themselves in tough situations, blokes like Hier, J Stewart, Fairclough, Pavlich, Guidreffa (or so I thought), Salter before injury - all debutants this year, except for Hier (5 games).

Lomas, too, stringnig a few games together and showing what he can do. Fiacchi maturing as a player.

guidreffa was dropped to the two's yesterday flying high

[Mickyj]

While these arguments about umpires will go on forever, the great thing about the Eagles over the last few weeks has been the way the young players have handled themselves in tough situations, blokes like Hier, J Stewart, Fairclough, Pavlich, Guidreffa (or so I thought), Salter before injury - all debutants this year, except for Hier (5 games).

Lomas, too, stringnig a few games together and showing what he can do. Fiacchi maturing as a player.

That J Stewart is a gun, LEH and EHL told me to keep an eye on him when I caught up with them before the game and he didn't disappoint, he looks all class. What's his background?

Have never met J Stewart but his grandmother lives around the
corner from me and she is one proud granny

[Wedgie]

guidreffa was dropped to the two's yesterday flying high

The Eagles supporters I talked to were all disappointed he got dropped as they'd been impressed by his form.
Mind you, same deal with North and Wundke too.

[Mickyj]

J Stewart just come up through the juniors, probably still eligible for U/19's. Not sure if he's Paul's brother.

FWIW would Paul Stewart be a better choice than Schwarze? From what I've seen, Schwarze seems inconsistent and sometimes thinks it should be easier because he's been an AFL player. Perhaps those who've sen more games than me this year can comment?

Paul Stewart has been injured flyinghigh and has been in and out of the two's.
Schwarze has settled in at FF but with passador back as well as kenny mac Schwarze struggled to find his feet yesterday.

Some fans think either stapples prentenko or even daveron may be smokies this year

[Mickyj]

guidreffa was dropped to the two's yesterday flying high

The Eagles supporters I talked to were all disappointed he got dropped as they'd been impressed by his form.
Mind you, same deal with North and Wundke too.

That would have been a very tough call for Ron and the selection comitte. But the EAGLES needed some more height down back to counter your talls .
Plus with kenny mac coming home oops I mean back that released mackenzie to play down back show up that AFL listed player Perrie .

[FlyingHigh]

At the risk of this turning into a love-in, Wundke is impressive from what I've seen of him. Would be good if he became a consistent 200-game FF, because there haven't been too many dinkum locally-produced FF's in the last few years, apart from Schell.

[Mickyj]

Finals will be interesting. I can't see the Eagles beating Centrals, but I can see Sturt and North doing so (not because they've done it during the minor round), but can't really see these two beating the Eagles when it's all on the line.

I thought that way as well until I drove out north and watched another close game between Eagles and Centrals .
If Centrals play the same way in the FINALS against the EAGLES it will not be that big a margin IMHO.

[FlyingHigh]

Yeah, I know P Stewart has been injured, but has strung a few games together in the two's now, hasn't he?

Petrenko would be a good one - we always seem to lack a player who can burst over a line with leg speed, esp since Stokes got drafted, and the top three sides all seem to look more dangerous than us because of leg speed.