AFL Round 5

[saintal]

Cats had the run of the umps in the first half I thought, St Kilda did alright after the break but still came out behind.

[Jim05]

Dont St Kilda have to handpass it like other teams? I swear they threw it more than they handpased it.

After watching Selwood do it all day they probably thought if you can't beat them, join them. Selwood would make a great Rugby convert

[gadj1976]

As anyone who knows me well enough knows, I'm Carlton through and through. Tonight was tough. At work today, talking with Port faithful, I said "if we get within 8 goals, we've done well". They said "If we don't win by 10, we'll consider that a loss".

Given we had Polson playing his first game, Petrevski-Seton playing his fifth in a midfield with bigger AFL seasoned bodies like Wines, Boak, Broadbent, Polek etc, I thought we might be struggling getting our hands near it - Ryder back vs Phillips didn't help.

So 15 is about right'ish. We were horrible for most parts of the game. The second half of the first quarter, we stifled Port's run and it looked like we were working back into the game, however our finishing was shocking. The second quarter I thought we held our own but again our finishing was horrendous.

The third, we stopped running. Our tackling at that point was nigh on non existent and Port streamed through our defensive line at half forward/centre with ease, meaning our backs had no chance. For what its worth, i thought our best were our defence. Murphy and Gibbs weren't our worst, but definitely need help in there.

The last quarter was always going to be 'floodgates' at 20 paces. We kicked 4 after kicking only 2 for the first three quarters but leaked goals again. That's the highest score we've conceded this year but I fear it's not going to be our worst.

Port were good, but not great. To me, they lack that killer instinct. Really really good sides would've beaten us to a pulp tonight and Port didn't. 15 goals is a good win but it doesn't quite capture the gulf between the two sides for mine. To give you some idea - we had 7 teenagers, 10 blokes less than 12 games, 11 blokes 25 games or less.

Anyway, good night out had by all. I had a James Squire 6 pack that cost 60 bucks at the footy but I digress....

Going forward, our major concern in the next five years is that we have no mids other than Cripps. Curnow (Ed), Murph, Simmo and Gibbs will all be gone. Kruezer will be done and dusted in about 3 years time. Phillips isn't the answer... so who's next??? Some holes to fill but overall I'm still staying positive. I was there 3 years ago when we got done by 103 points and there was no bright light, no future. At least this time I can cling to something!

I wish I could be as positive as you mate.
We just don't have enough top end talent and our leaders just aren't good enough.
We have plenty of first round picks playing but unfortunately for them they are playing as the number 1 forward or defender.
At any of the top teams they'd be the 3rd defender and have experienced guys around them to help out.
I feel for Weitering, Marchbank, Cripps and co. as they just don't have the leaders around them they require.

Not sure what the answer is as they tried recruiting mature recruits and got that horribly wrong as well.

Appointing Malthouse as coach was the worse thing they could have ever done but that's in the past now and time to move forward.

Absolutely Amber, we're in a hole BUT Marchbank, Weitering and Plowman will form the nucleus of our defence for 10 years. Not to say they'll be first, second and third pick each week but it's better than what we had.

Ditto for Silvagni and Curnow (Charlie). It's something to build around. We're in for a hell of a lot of pain still in the next two years but like I said, this time I can see the 'reset' is actually going to work. At season's end, I think we need to let Gibbs go to Adelaide and even see if Levi is worth anything on the open market. Ultimately, if Murphy wanted to go, I wouldn't be shutting that down in a hurry either. If we finish up with two first rounders going into next year, that will be a launching pad for 2020.

Under Malthouse we were getting mixed messages about a rebuild, not being in a rebuild, going 'undefeated' etc, etc.

I think we have to stay positive.... what's the alternative?? I refuse to look back at how I felt in the Malthouse days, despite my mates reminding me daily about Betts/Thomas trade period debacle.

BTW, Thomas now NEEDS to stay in the ressies. He isn't part of the future of the club, so has to stay behind and educate the young guys on how to get a cheap kick out wide and then not deliver it to team mates.

[Corona Man]

How's the new Dees ruckman... that's some hair/beard combo!

[carey]

Was really keen to watch it tonight only to hear Daisy Pearce and then to top it off Basil.

Probably watch the Voice now.

[Corona Man]

Was really keen to watch it tonight only to hear Daisy Pearce and then to top it off Basil.

Probably watch the Voice now.

Cmon Carey, turn the sound down, put the radio on!

[valleys07]

Melbourne 3.4.22
Richmond 3.1.19

Melbourne should be much further in front. 18 inside 50's to 4, Richmond 3.1 all from turnovers.

[Corona Man]

Melbourne 3.4.22
Richmond 3.1.19

Melbourne should be much further in front. 18 inside 50's to 4, Richmond 3.1 all from turnovers.

And Watts dropping chest marks...

[valleys07]

Melbourne 3.4.22
Richmond 3.1.19

Melbourne should be much further in front. 18 inside 50's to 4, Richmond 3.1 all from turnovers.

And Watts dropping chest marks...

Standard.

[JK]

Melbourne 3.4.22
Richmond 3.1.19

Melbourne should be much further in front. 18 inside 50's to 4, Richmond 3.1 all from turnovers.

Richmond congested well though, the Dees didn't really miss any they should have got. Conversely Richmonds scores came easier when they got out to open space. Good even start, Melbourne will spend a few petrol tickets though so they'll need more scoreboard reward.

[The Dark Knight]

Was really keen to watch it tonight only to hear Daisy Pearce and then to top it off Basil.

Probably watch the Voice now.

Basil F**king Zempilas can f**k right off!

[Jim05]

Was really keen to watch it tonight only to hear Daisy Pearce and then to top it off Basil.

Probably watch the Voice now.

Basil F**king Zempilas can f**k right off!

Still better than Daisy.
I had to turn it off

[valleys07]

Jack Riewoldt with his 3rd. Looking really dangerous tonight.

[Corona Man]

Dees are good at getting the knacker, but geez they just throw it away!

[valleys07]

Richmond reverting back to their old ways tonight.

Melbourne far tougher at the contest and are prepared to work harder back.

[Spargo]

Was really keen to watch it tonight only to hear Daisy Pearce and then to top it off Basil.

Probably watch the Voice now.

Basil F**king Zempilas can f**k right off!

If Cometti & McAvaney had a love child, he would be it.
Melbourne should be out of sight with all the play they've had.

[JK]

Richmond $2.75 on live bet, should be over $3 here if Salem goals. Reckon the Tiges might run the game out better. (Hope not though)

[mighty_tiger_79]

I took $2 tigers on Ladbrokes

[JK]

I took $2 tigers on Ladbrokes

I'm on at $3.20

[mighty_tiger_79]

I hope they make Melbourne pay for those early misses...
May need Jack to kick 11 though

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