3RD TEST EG + UMPIRES V INDIA

[MAY-Z]

INDIA out for 664

Record score for IN V EG [previous 628]
record last wicket stand of 73 IN V EG
Every batter made double figures
KUMBLE 110 NOT OUT batting at 9
KUMBLE has played the most test innings in history for a maiden century 151 test innings


What an embarrasment for English cricket

One ball I saw typified this debacle

KUMBLE on 97 facing KP [worst bowler in the world]
KUMBLE down the pitch meters out of the crease inside edges to PRIOR[worst keeper in the world]
PRIOR misses the ball goes for 4 runs
Dear oh dear oh me
KUMBLE 36 years old makes a test 100
EG

Is this the most mediocre bowling line up in English history
ANDERSON
SIDEBOTTOM
TREMLETT
PANESAR
COLLINGWOOD
KP

PANESAR is the only very good bowler, the rest would struggle to get a bowl for South Australia

Oh for JONES/FLINTOFF/HOGGARD/HARMISON/LARWOOD....

mal the indian batting line up is a very good one- with the frontline england bowlers it is certainly a weakened attack but tremlett will be ok as mentioned further on

what did this indian batting lineup do to australia the last time they played them without their frontline bowlers at the scg in 2004- they racked up 6-700odd

[mal]

MAY Z you have made a puzzling post
You say Indias batting line up is a very good one
Then you mention thier run sprees v EG + AU a couple of times
AND then mention both attacks were depleted

India are frontrunning batsman
They make runs in the comfort of thier home decks on flat pitches
They play well at home because the fast bowlers cant get the ball
to bounce above the stumps
Away from home they make runs on flat decks
As soon as there is PRESSURE or a deck that offers anything the batsman go missing

GANGIRLY + LAXATIVEMAN are frontrunners
DREARYVID bats for himself and is suspect away from home
SHEWAG is hit or miss
TENDULKAR is an exception, but he struggles these days away from home

We all saw how good these frontrunningfigjams were in NZ a couple of years ago
With a bit of spunk in the pitch these over-rated guys hardly got to 200 runs in the series.

FREMANTLE /SOUTH ADELAIDE/INDIA are all the same

[MAY-Z]

MAY Z you have made a puzzling post
You say Indias batting line up is a very good one
Then you mention thier run sprees v EG + AU a couple of times
AND then mention both attacks were depleted

India are frontrunning batsman
They make runs in the comfort of thier home decks on flat pitches
They play well at home because the fast bowlers cant get the ball
to bounce above the stumps
Away from home they make runs on flat decks
As soon as there is PRESSURE or a deck that offers anything the batsman go missing

GANGIRLY + LAXATIVEMAN are frontrunners
DREARYVID bats for himself and is suspect away from home
SHEWAG is hit or miss
TENDULKAR is an exception, but he struggles these days away from home

We all saw how good these frontrunningfigjams were in NZ a couple of years ago
With a bit of spunk in the pitch these over-rated guys hardly got to 200 runs in the series.

FREMANTLE /SOUTH ADELAIDE/INDIA are all the same

mal here are some stats for you

dravid averages 61 away from home- that doesnt look too suspect too me
laxman averages 42- same as home record
tendulkar is about 55 home and away
ganguly averages 44 away and 41 overall

so playing away from home doesnt seem to bother them too much.

ganguly may be abit of a front runner, averages 50 when india win

new zealand pitches are very rarely high scoring, even when australia won their 16 matches in a row the three tests they played in nz the didnt score particularly high

[mal]

DREARYVID averages 61 is good o/s, whats his average v Australia ?

LAXMAN and GANGIRLY are ordinary

As i said get thier averages against sides with good faster bowlers
Averages in South Africa/Australia/NZ where the ball talks more

Anyways I hope its a drawn test and KP makes a hundred and a waste of 664 runs
and especially that PATHETIC 12 by DREARYVID...

[mighty_tiger_79]

MAL knew what would happen!!!!!!!!!!!!

KP hundred and a drawn test

MAL you say it was a wasted 600 runs especially the 12 by dravid, but the match was a draw and thats all India ever wanted out of the match.

India won the series MAL

not bad for a team that doesnt travel

[mal]

EG chasing 500 for the impossible dream in a day and 20 overs
Make 6/369 and save the unsavable test.

Mr England does it AGAIN
KP the man makes another test 100 what a player
101 in 159 balls and saves the test for his adopted country
He has done something a former Australian captain never did, score a 4th innings 100

KP 50 came up in 108 balls
His 2nd slowest 50 in about his last 20 innings
His previous that labourious 50 in Perth IN 123 BALLS
Mr England norMALly avrages 50s in 76 balls in those last 20 50s

KUMBLE brushed KP and verbally abused the great one
Typical frontrunningfigjamming Indian tactic

The KP 100 came up off 155 balls
2nd 50 in 47 balls
He quietly raised his bat, no clenched fist or celebrating this time

Mr England was out shortly after for a match saving 101

30 tests
10 centurys
Bradman 30 tests produced 15 test centuries

EG 6/367 the tail was exposed with 28 balls left
Oh what could have been for another 15 overs
Still India was happy with a draw judging by the after match celebrations

They are piss weak, Australia would have won this in a canter in the same situation
A great opportunity to win 2-0 goes wanting
The flat track chauvinists are PATHETIC not nailing a win

On instance described India
First over after tea Collingwood clipped a ball thru mid wicket for a couple
Dravid the GUTLESS wonder took out a silly point to plug the mid wicket gap !!!!!

PATHETIC the score was 3/232 at tea
EG needs 268 runs in about 30 overs to win on a 5th day pitch

MAYZ this one for you
The flat track figjamming superstars have now made
700+ v Australia
664 v England
both sides had thier bowling attacks decimated
and both times they could only draw the test
PATHETIC

Winners are grinners and India won thier 3rd away test series v England
1971
1987
2007

Etched in that 1-0 win in 2007 was that brutal match unwinning 12 off 96 balls by Drearyvid...

[jackpot jim]

[quote="mal"]EG chasing 500 for the impossible dream in a day and 20 overs
Make 6/369 and save the unsavable test.

Winners are grinners and India won thier 3rd away test series v England
1971
1987
2007

What was so UNSAVABLE about Batting out the last day for a draw on that pitch??????????

Apart from that Mal, I Agree with everything else you say above "Winners r Grinners"

[am Bays]

Etched in that 1-0 win in 2007 was that brutal match unwinning 12 off 96 balls by Drearyvid...

Ever watch his and Laxman's innings at Kolkota (2001) and Adelaide (2003-04) to actually set up wins against Australia....not honourable losses or draws....

Dravid can play

[mal]

It should never have been unsavable
The 96 balls used up by Drearyvid for 12 ultimately cost India the winnable test.
An extra 10-15 overs would have been handy

What a waste of 5 days to destroy an opposition for no result

Thats why India are a second rate team

[mal]

Etched in that 1-0 win in 2007 was that brutal match unwinning 12 off 96 balls by Drearyvid...

Ever watch his and Laxman's innings at Kolkota (2001) and Adelaide (2003-04) to actually set up wins against Australia....not honourable losses or draws....

Dravid can play

Let me guess Tassie he made runs on flat tracks
We can all remember those 2 great digs + victorys
I can remember some failures as well over the last decade
His average of 40 odd testifys this.
For every good innings there are about 5 bad ones as well

Can you search the records when he played on pitches that gave assistance to the bowlers.

Perhaps his record in SAF/NZ/AUSTRALIA in ALL innings

[Stumps]

Previous Australia teams would have declared I agree Mal but they had two of the best bowlers the world has ever seen.well see how attacking ponting would be in the same situation this summer without warne turning them square on the last day and Mcgrath bowling gazzunders. boring i agree but good captaincy by dravid and to question a player of his statures approach to his batting is a bit surprising to say the least The trophy cabinet is all that matters- really- one off tests, who really cares- its like in the ashes- whether you win 3-1, 3-2, 4-0 or 5-0 it doesnt mean squat- its who wins the ashes. Well played India

[mal]

Stumps I know where your going with a Warneless+ Mcgrathless Australia
However any country worth a pinch of salt should not bat slowly
and then lead by 500 before declaring.
The world record chase is about 415 odd when WI beat AU a few years ago
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HISTORY SHOWS THAT 450 IS AN IMPOSSIBILITY UNTIL IT HAPPENS
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Why not win an unloseable test, no risk, no stress , obtain a reward for 5 days of dominance.

The only possible excuse for going to 500 is the fear of KP

[bulldogs]

mal i normally like reading your thoughts, but im sick of the steve waugh bashing get off his case is a champion player.

[rod_rooster]

mal you need to get your hand off it. You quote stats when it suits you argument and argue relentlessly that they are the be all and end all but as soon as stats back up a player you don't rate you argue they don't tell the full story. Dravid is a class act and one of the best players in the world. He averages over 60 in Test cricket and has made scores against all countries. You can argue whatever you like but as soon as someone suggests a player you rate is not very good you will once again point to stats to back up your argument and won't accept that stats can sometime lie. Be consistent mal.

For what it's worth i think India were overly cautious in this last test but to suggest that Dravid is anything but one of the best Test cricketers in the world is plain wrong.

[mal]

mal i normally like reading your thoughts, but im sick of the steve waugh bashing get off his case is a champion player.

BULLDOG
SW is a champ
SW had poor 4th innings in test cricket
SW had the 2nd best first innings record since Bradman
When this emoticom is used its not insinuating

RODROOSTER
I renigged on Dravids career after the MAYZ post
I wont renig on what he did this test however
When your team is 450 in front you dont block block block as he did

ROD what was your thoughts on 12 in 96 balls ?
If it was PONTING/HAYDEN/HUSSEY I would still say the same things

[MAY-Z]

Stumps I know where your going with a Warneless+ Mcgrathless Australia
However any country worth a pinch of salt should not bat slowly
and then lead by 500 before declaring.
The world record chase is about 415 odd when WI beat AU a few years ago
______________________________________________________________
HISTORY SHOWS THAT 450 IS AN IMPOSSIBILITY UNTIL IT HAPPENS
_______________________________________________________________

Why not win an unloseable test, no risk, no stress , obtain a reward for 5 days of dominance.

The only possible excuse for going to 500 is the fear of KP

mal in both tests that you have referred to where india havent won they have achieved their main objective of winning th eseries against india and retaining the border-gavaskar trophy

[jackpot jim]

MAL, U Cant winum all. Just accept Defeat in this debate Graciously and move on.

[Stumps]

Stumps I know where your going with a Warneless+ Mcgrathless Australia
However any country worth a pinch of salt should not bat slowly
and then lead by 500 before declaring.
The world record chase is about 415 odd when WI beat AU a few years ago
______________________________________________________________
HISTORY SHOWS THAT 450 IS AN IMPOSSIBILITY UNTIL IT HAPPENS
_______________________________________________________________

Why not win an unloseable test, no risk, no stress , obtain a reward for 5 days of dominance.

The only possible excuse for going to 500 is the fear of KP

I know the KP comment is a touch "tongue in cheek" Mal but I reckon the "KP" factor would have been a huge factor in the indians "go slow" tactics.

[mal]

MAL, U Cant winum all. Just accept Defeat in this debate Graciously and move on.

I concede defeat until the next gutless skipper declares 500 in front

When a team makes 500 batting last I will start a apology post

[mighty_tiger_79]

AS HAS BEEN pointed out MAL

India had led the series going into the final test, all they needed was a draw - they got what they want and winners are

if England were any good they would have ATTACKED ATTACKED ATTACKED