Q. wrote:The capitalist pyramid doesn't work like that. Not everyone who 'works hard' can be near the top.
For everyone that tries there are others who fail
by Brodlach » Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:22 pm
Q. wrote:The capitalist pyramid doesn't work like that. Not everyone who 'works hard' can be near the top.
Brodlach wrote:Rory Laird might end up the best IMO, he is an absolute jet. He has been in great form at the Bloods
by Jim05 » Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:22 pm
amber_fluid wrote:Brodlach wrote:Hilarious!
Ok Booney, I have no idea about what you are talking about. Your opinion is the only correct one. You have obviously employed a lot of people.
I have been through many businesses in the last 28 years, I think I am very qualified to talk about this. I have plenty of experience with this and people's work ethic, personal growth and expectations.
It sounds like you have your business hat on and not your empathy hat!
I don't agree with paying double time on Sundays but some form of penalty rates still need to be in place to protect the employee.
by Booney » Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:22 pm
Jim05 wrote:amber_fluid wrote:Brodlach wrote:Hilarious!
Ok Booney, I have no idea about what you are talking about. Your opinion is the only correct one. You have obviously employed a lot of people.
I have been through many businesses in the last 28 years, I think I am very qualified to talk about this. I have plenty of experience with this and people's work ethic, personal growth and expectations.
It sounds like you have your business hat on and not your empathy hat!
I don't agree with paying double time on Sundays but some form of penalty rates still need to be in place to protect the employee.
What about protecting the small business owners who create all these jobs often at huge financial and emotional cost?
by Brodlach » Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:23 pm
amber_fluid wrote:Booney wrote:Brodlach wrote:mighty_tiger_79 wrote:What does government handouts got to do with penalty Rates being slashed?
Amber was talking about it being hard to live on $800 a week for a family which would be very difficult, just pointing out that for low income earners there is extra assistance
(One last one)
You're right, they should just choose to earn $150k P.A instead.
I choose to earn $150k a year.........unfortunately for me, my CEO chooses not to pay it!!
Brodlach wrote:Rory Laird might end up the best IMO, he is an absolute jet. He has been in great form at the Bloods
by Brodlach » Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:24 pm
Booney wrote:Jim05 wrote:amber_fluid wrote:Brodlach wrote:Hilarious!
Ok Booney, I have no idea about what you are talking about. Your opinion is the only correct one. You have obviously employed a lot of people.
I have been through many businesses in the last 28 years, I think I am very qualified to talk about this. I have plenty of experience with this and people's work ethic, personal growth and expectations.
It sounds like you have your business hat on and not your empathy hat!
I don't agree with paying double time on Sundays but some form of penalty rates still need to be in place to protect the employee.
What about protecting the small business owners who create all these jobs often at huge financial and emotional cost?
Hey, that's their choice, they don't have to do that.
They could choose something else and just work harder.
Brodlach wrote:Rory Laird might end up the best IMO, he is an absolute jet. He has been in great form at the Bloods
by amber_fluid » Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:25 pm
Jim05 wrote:amber_fluid wrote:Brodlach wrote:Hilarious!
Ok Booney, I have no idea about what you are talking about. Your opinion is the only correct one. You have obviously employed a lot of people.
I have been through many businesses in the last 28 years, I think I am very qualified to talk about this. I have plenty of experience with this and people's work ethic, personal growth and expectations.
It sounds like you have your business hat on and not your empathy hat!
I don't agree with paying double time on Sundays but some form of penalty rates still need to be in place to protect the employee.
What about protecting the small business owners who create all these jobs often at huge financial and emotional cost?
by bennymacca » Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:27 pm
amber_fluid wrote:I understand what you are saying(to a degree) but people without education or qualifications don't have a choice sometimes.
Their only choice is to work a low income job with penalty rates or become unemployed.
I know what I'd rather them do.
by amber_fluid » Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:29 pm
Brodlach wrote:amber_fluid wrote:Booney wrote:
(One last one)
You're right, they should just choose to earn $150k P.A instead.
I choose to earn $150k a year.........unfortunately for me, my CEO chooses not to pay it!!
That's because he is having to pay so much in penalty rates
by Booney » Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:32 pm
bennymacca wrote:amber_fluid wrote:I understand what you are saying(to a degree) but people without education or qualifications don't have a choice sometimes.
Their only choice is to work a low income job with penalty rates or become unemployed.
I know what I'd rather them do.
everyone has the choice to get educated
by bennymacca » Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:36 pm
Booney wrote:bennymacca wrote:amber_fluid wrote:I understand what you are saying(to a degree) but people without education or qualifications don't have a choice sometimes.
Their only choice is to work a low income job with penalty rates or become unemployed.
I know what I'd rather them do.
everyone has the choice to get educated
That's extremely patronising IMO. Does everyone have the same capacity? Is every hospitality or retail worker below the intellect of someone who is "educated"?
by Brodlach » Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:36 pm
Brodlach wrote:Rory Laird might end up the best IMO, he is an absolute jet. He has been in great form at the Bloods
by Brodlach » Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:51 pm
Q. wrote:Brodlach wrote:Q. wrote:Brodlach wrote:That's why so many people are on benefits
Nope, that's what they want you to think. The level of people in Australia on welfare has fallen significantly over the past decade.
It's all in the way they produce the figures
You work one hour a week and you are taken off the unemployed rate.
Those are unemployment statistics.
Australia's welfare statistics can be seen in plain daylight, and it's easy to find interactive graphs on the web that separate figures for newstart, aged pension, DSP etc. and how our welfare to GDP ratio compares to other countries
Brodlach wrote:Rory Laird might end up the best IMO, he is an absolute jet. He has been in great form at the Bloods
by Q. » Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:54 pm
Brodlach wrote:Q. wrote:Those are unemployment statistics.
Australia's welfare statistics can be seen in plain daylight, and it's easy to find interactive graphs on the web that separate figures for newstart, aged pension, DSP etc. and how our welfare to GDP ratio compares to other countries
I was just using that as an example and how figures can be manipulated
by Brodlach » Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:59 pm
Brodlach wrote:Rory Laird might end up the best IMO, he is an absolute jet. He has been in great form at the Bloods
by Q. » Thu Feb 23, 2017 5:24 pm
Brodlach wrote:Thanks, have not seen that before. Will look at it tonight. Does it tell you what the average person in $$$ is be country? (Serious question not trying to be a smart ass or start another disagreement) . I'm only on a small iPad ATM
by Wedgie » Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:44 pm
Armchair expert wrote:Such a great club are Geelong
by Pseudo » Thu Feb 23, 2017 8:03 pm
Brodlach wrote:You are right
We have a guy who is considered a genius his IQ is so high, just a lazy f***er who will live to regret it one day. Does his job and that's it
by Magellan » Fri Feb 24, 2017 8:05 am
Wedgie wrote:I'm just spewing tradies earn so much. When I was at school you went into a trade if you were too dumb to get past year 9.
I'm spewing because 2 of them have moved next to us paying $520 per week rent and have a shit taste in music and no community awareness.
by Booney » Fri Feb 24, 2017 8:23 am
bennymacca wrote:
Of course everyone has varying skillsets and intelligence. But my point was if someone wants to get some sort of education, those personal traits are likely the only barrier.
I didnt mean it that everyone can get a uni degree or something. But forklift tickets or tafe certificates are within reach and affordable for everyone if they so desire.
by Spargo » Fri Feb 24, 2017 8:43 am
Booney wrote:bennymacca wrote:
Of course everyone has varying skillsets and intelligence. But my point was if someone wants to get some sort of education, those personal traits are likely the only barrier.
I didnt mean it that everyone can get a uni degree or something. But forklift tickets or tafe certificates are within reach and affordable for everyone if they so desire.
Having very recently ( in the last two weeks ) looked at TAFE courses for Little Miss Boon I can tell you they simply aren't. Cert III in Barbering and Hairdressing - 18 months - $19,000.
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