by Yangebup » Sat Jan 07, 2017 8:30 pm
by Jim05 » Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:19 pm
Yangebup wrote:Talking about spinners for the upcoming India tour, Warne is going on & on about picking this leg spinner Sweppson. Come on Warne obviously you have some clout but just tone it down to a dull roar & give others like Zampa & Agar etc an opportunity to at least be looked at please.
by The Dark Knight » Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:28 pm
by Grahaml » Sat Jan 07, 2017 11:32 pm
by bennymacca » Sat Jan 07, 2017 11:50 pm
by RB » Sun Jan 08, 2017 8:33 am
bennymacca wrote:Take both swepson and zampa. They both won't play unless we have injuries, so give them some tour games
by The Dark Knight » Sun Jan 08, 2017 10:19 am
Grahaml wrote:I am getting pretty sick of Warne talking about spin constantly. That ridiculous whinge about Waugh and Ponting being all about fast bowlers.
by RB » Sun Jan 08, 2017 10:33 am
by Grahaml » Sun Jan 08, 2017 11:30 am
RB wrote:The one thing I'll say in defence of Warnie is that Lyon tends to bowl better and more aggressively when he's used better, and when he's brought on earlier and not treated as an afterthought. He's looked more confident in Melbourne and Sydney and has taken more wickets that he would otherwise have, IMO, because Smith has thrown him on earlier and more often, something that we haven't seen much since the days when Michael Clarke was captain.
by mighty_tiger_79 » Mon Jan 09, 2017 9:45 am
The Dark Knight wrote:Micheal Clarke also said he would like to see someone like Adam Zampa or Swepson in the squad for India.
On top of that in an interview on Wednesday Steve Waugh said briefly that he would like to see someone like Fawad Ahmed in the picture for India. He did concede Ahmed is a long shot and that he doesn't watch alot of domestic cricket.
We all on here agree that Zampa isn't ready for test cricket and Swepson probably hasn't had enough first class cricket, although he impressed for Australia A in the winter series. Ahmed is past it and has recently lost his spot to Jon Holland as Victoria's number one spinner.
Taking a legspinner that isn't ready for test cricket is too big of a gamble and wouldn't be a good move IMO, the Indian batsman would feast on them.
by Booney » Mon Jan 09, 2017 9:49 am
by mighty_tiger_79 » Mon Jan 09, 2017 9:52 am
by Purple Warrior » Mon Jan 09, 2017 10:22 am
by stan » Mon Jan 09, 2017 12:05 pm
by Grahaml » Mon Jan 09, 2017 12:23 pm
stan wrote:Play whoever we like in those conditions, how are we going tk get guys like Kolhi, Pujara, Rahul and Vijay out?
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by Rik E Boy » Mon Jan 09, 2017 12:43 pm
Grahaml wrote:stan wrote:Play whoever we like in those conditions, how are we going tk get guys like Kolhi, Pujara, Rahul and Vijay out?
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Got to back in Starc and Hazlewood. Both are good enough to get something out of any pitch IMHO. I think we also tend to get carried away thinking the Indians are flawless against spin. Just got to be smart with our selections. I think Lyon is a bowler who needs the ball to bounce to be effective. If he can't get that then perhaps he isn't the man. O'Keefe doesn't need a lot of movement on the ball to be effective so he might in fact be the best option over there. The extra spin he'll get should make him more effective.
by Booney » Mon Jan 09, 2017 12:45 pm
Grahaml wrote:stan wrote:Play whoever we like in those conditions, how are we going tk get guys like Kolhi, Pujara, Rahul and Vijay out?
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Got to back in Starc and Hazlewood. Both are good enough to get something out of any pitch IMHO. I think we also tend to get carried away thinking the Indians are flawless against spin. Just got to be smart with our selections. I think Lyon is a bowler who needs the ball to bounce to be effective. If he can't get that then perhaps he isn't the man. O'Keefe doesn't need a lot of movement on the ball to be effective so he might in fact be the best option over there. The extra spin he'll get should make him more effective.
by gadj1976 » Mon Jan 09, 2017 12:54 pm
Booney wrote:Grahaml wrote:stan wrote:Play whoever we like in those conditions, how are we going tk get guys like Kolhi, Pujara, Rahul and Vijay out?
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Got to back in Starc and Hazlewood. Both are good enough to get something out of any pitch IMHO. I think we also tend to get carried away thinking the Indians are flawless against spin. Just got to be smart with our selections. I think Lyon is a bowler who needs the ball to bounce to be effective. If he can't get that then perhaps he isn't the man. O'Keefe doesn't need a lot of movement on the ball to be effective so he might in fact be the best option over there. The extra spin he'll get should make him more effective.
O'Keefe? When did the selectors think left arm pies were the answer?
by Bombers4EVA » Mon Jan 09, 2017 1:02 pm
stan wrote:Play whoever we like in those conditions, how are we going tk get guys like Kolhi, Pujara, Rahul and Vijay out?
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by RB » Mon Jan 09, 2017 6:27 pm
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:The Dark Knight wrote:Micheal Clarke also said he would like to see someone like Adam Zampa or Swepson in the squad for India.
On top of that in an interview on Wednesday Steve Waugh said briefly that he would like to see someone like Fawad Ahmed in the picture for India. He did concede Ahmed is a long shot and that he doesn't watch alot of domestic cricket.
We all on here agree that Zampa isn't ready for test cricket and Swepson probably hasn't had enough first class cricket, although he impressed for Australia A in the winter series. Ahmed is past it and has recently lost his spot to Jon Holland as Victoria's number one spinner.
Taking a legspinner that isn't ready for test cricket is too big of a gamble and wouldn't be a good move IMO, the Indian batsman would feast on them.
Warnie went to India and he wasn't ready which he readily admits
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