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Re: 2016 Draft discussion

Postby Jim05 » Mon Nov 28, 2016 4:16 pm

MW wrote:
Booney wrote:One of the stories of the trade, draft, rookie draft period, Xavier Richards, played in the Grand final for Sydney just a month or so ago and asked for a trade. Ends up being over looked altogether.


Must be damaged goods if no club wants near him. What a f..k up.
Might make some players think twice in the future about throwing the skirt over the head and wanting out

Trained with us and impressed until he had his interview and told Woosha that he wouldn't be too fussed if he didn't get picked up as footy is just a sport and it's not the end of the world.
I think he was laughed out the door
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Re: 2016 Draft discussion

Postby Booney » Mon Nov 28, 2016 4:21 pm

:shock: LMFAO - Welcome to struggle town pal, population, YOU!

If he thought living on a couple of hundred thousand was tough, welcome to the real world pal!

Prior to the trade period :


SYDNEY Swans grand final player Xavier Richards has requested a trade to a Melbourne club and his manager says the cost of living in Sydney is the key factor in his desire to move.
The Swans lost their cost of living allowance (COLA) in controversial circumstances after they recruited Lance Franklin on a nine year $10 million deal on the back of signing Kurt Tippett from Adelaide the year before (2013).
But Richards’ manager Phil Mullen said the expense of living in Australia’s biggest city was a real issue for players down the pay scale from Franklin and Tippett.
“Xavier wanting to leave the Swans has nothing to do with being unhappy with the club,” Mullen told The Daily Telegraph.
“If you’ve got money to spend you’d get better value in Queensland or South Australia than you do in Sydney. Living in Sydney makes it tough on a lot of players.”
The advent of free agency is seeing the game’s best players getting richer while those down the financial ladder aren’t making as much ground. For the very well paid players such as Franklin and Tippett the cost of living in Sydney isn’t an issue but Mullen believes for journeymen players like Richards it’s a struggle.
“He will be able to go home to Melbourne and live with his parents initially and put some money away, that’s been impossible in Sydney,” Mullen said.
“I can’t understand why the AFL got rid of COLA.”
Carlton player Andrejs Everitt left the Swans in similar circumstances to Richards two years ago and said there was a real need for it especially for the less well paid players.
“It is pretty expensive to live up in Sydney, just the rent, everything to do with Sydney. I’m not sure what the figures are but I do think it (COLA) is pretty necessary,” Everitt said at the time.
The prospect of COLA being reinstated looks extremely remote after AFL Chairman Mike Fitzpatrick made his feelings known about the allowance last month.
“I was quite disappointed (when Lance Franklin switched to the Swans). I was the last defender of COLA. That announcement convinced me I had been wrong for a long time,” Fitzpatrick said at the time.
Richards has played 12 games in four years at the Swans including the last 10 of this season. His older brother Ted announced his retirement this season after 261 games for Sydney (228) and Essendon (33).
Mullen believes a deal with a Melbourne club is imminent.
“Xavier has been around for a while and knows the game,” Mullen said.
“He had a pretty good second half of the year when he was moved forward and he has plenty of ability there is no question. I’m confident a deal will get done in the next couple of days.”
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Re: 2016 Draft discussion

Postby Spargo » Mon Nov 28, 2016 4:22 pm

Jim05 wrote:
MW wrote:
Booney wrote:One of the stories of the trade, draft, rookie draft period, Xavier Richards, played in the Grand final for Sydney just a month or so ago and asked for a trade. Ends up being over looked altogether.


Must be damaged goods if no club wants near him. What a f..k up.
Might make some players think twice in the future about throwing the skirt over the head and wanting out

Trained with us and impressed until he had his interview and told Woosha that he wouldn't be too fussed if he didn't get picked up as footy is just a sport and it's not the end of the world.
I think he was laughed out the door

Who does he think he is, Geoff Hayward?
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Re: 2016 Draft discussion

Postby Dutchy » Mon Nov 28, 2016 7:31 pm

Suri wrote:
Gozu wrote:I thought I read the Crows Sam Shaw retired?


He did retire. The Crows picked him as a rookie so he can access AFL support for the health concerns about concussions, which is why he retired.


Shows how rooted the system is if the Crows need to do this to look after him :roll:
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Re: 2016 Draft discussion

Postby Jim05 » Mon Nov 28, 2016 8:28 pm

Dutchy wrote:
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Gozu wrote:I thought I read the Crows Sam Shaw retired?


He did retire. The Crows picked him as a rookie so he can access AFL support for the health concerns about concussions, which is why he retired.


Shows how rooted the system is if the Crows need to do this to look after him :roll:

Or the Crows are busting at the seams salary cap wise and can't afford to pay out his final year as it would put them over. That's what GWS has done with Patfull
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Re: 2016 Draft discussion

Postby daysofourlives » Mon Nov 28, 2016 8:36 pm

woodublieve12 wrote:
Booney wrote:One of the stories of the trade, draft, rookie draft period, Xavier Richards, played in the Grand final for Sydney just a month or so ago and asked for a trade. Ends up being over looked altogether.

He finally broke into the side and it seemed he thought he was worth a lot more then he actually was.

What a goose


Was probably offered the bare minimum for that 2 year contract. Chalk it up as another one lost due to Lance and Kurt
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Re: 2016 Draft discussion

Postby MW » Mon Nov 28, 2016 8:46 pm

Jim05 wrote:
Dutchy wrote:
Suri wrote:
Gozu wrote:I thought I read the Crows Sam Shaw retired?


He did retire. The Crows picked him as a rookie so he can access AFL support for the health concerns about concussions, which is why he retired.


Shows how rooted the system is if the Crows need to do this to look after him :roll:

Or the Crows are busting at the seams salary cap wise and can't afford to pay out his final year as it would put them over. That's what GWS has done with Patfull


why would they need to pay out his final year if he retired?
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Re: 2016 Draft discussion

Postby Dutchy » Mon Nov 28, 2016 8:56 pm

Probably don;t have to MW but morally I think the Crows are doing the right thing by Shaw as he was contracted, and any player payment needs to go in the cap.
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Re: 2016 Draft discussion

Postby daysofourlives » Mon Nov 28, 2016 9:00 pm

Perhaps they encouraged him to retire on the promise they will rookie him?
Worth investigating anyway. I suspect since GWS has done it with Patfull you should be safe from any ramifications from AFL house unless they see it as a chance to take a couple draft picks off their babies after realising they have given them too much. Crows could be collateral damage
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Re: 2016 Draft discussion

Postby Brodlach » Mon Nov 28, 2016 9:03 pm

Patfull still could play, Shaw wont
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Re: 2016 Draft discussion

Postby MatteeG » Mon Nov 28, 2016 9:20 pm

heater31 wrote:
You'd hope his manager advised against this.....


Wasnt Pickers was it?
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Re: 2016 Draft discussion

Postby Magellan » Mon Nov 28, 2016 9:39 pm

Booney wrote::shock: LMFAO - Welcome to struggle town pal, population, YOU!

If he thought living on a couple of hundred thousand was tough, welcome to the real world pal!

Prior to the trade period :


SYDNEY Swans grand final player Xavier Richards has requested a trade to a Melbourne club and his manager says the cost of living in Sydney is the key factor in his desire to move.
The Swans lost their cost of living allowance (COLA) in controversial circumstances after they recruited Lance Franklin on a nine year $10 million deal on the back of signing Kurt Tippett from Adelaide the year before (2013).
But Richards’ manager Phil Mullen said the expense of living in Australia’s biggest city was a real issue for players down the pay scale from Franklin and Tippett.
“Xavier wanting to leave the Swans has nothing to do with being unhappy with the club,” Mullen told The Daily Telegraph.
“If you’ve got money to spend you’d get better value in Queensland or South Australia than you do in Sydney. Living in Sydney makes it tough on a lot of players.”
The advent of free agency is seeing the game’s best players getting richer while those down the financial ladder aren’t making as much ground. For the very well paid players such as Franklin and Tippett the cost of living in Sydney isn’t an issue but Mullen believes for journeymen players like Richards it’s a struggle.
“He will be able to go home to Melbourne and live with his parents initially and put some money away, that’s been impossible in Sydney,” Mullen said.
“I can’t understand why the AFL got rid of COLA.”
Carlton player Andrejs Everitt left the Swans in similar circumstances to Richards two years ago and said there was a real need for it especially for the less well paid players.
“It is pretty expensive to live up in Sydney, just the rent, everything to do with Sydney. I’m not sure what the figures are but I do think it (COLA) is pretty necessary,” Everitt said at the time.
The prospect of COLA being reinstated looks extremely remote after AFL Chairman Mike Fitzpatrick made his feelings known about the allowance last month.
“I was quite disappointed (when Lance Franklin switched to the Swans). I was the last defender of COLA. That announcement convinced me I had been wrong for a long time,” Fitzpatrick said at the time.
Richards has played 12 games in four years at the Swans including the last 10 of this season. His older brother Ted announced his retirement this season after 261 games for Sydney (228) and Essendon (33).
Mullen believes a deal with a Melbourne club is imminent.
“Xavier has been around for a while and knows the game,” Mullen said.
“He had a pretty good second half of the year when he was moved forward and he has plenty of ability there is no question. I’m confident a deal will get done in the next couple of days.”

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Re: 2016 Draft discussion

Postby stan » Tue Nov 29, 2016 8:42 am

Drew Petrie, clearly a break glass only if world is completely ******.



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Re: 2016 Draft discussion

Postby Booney » Tue Nov 29, 2016 8:52 am

stan wrote:Drew Petrie, clearly a break glass only if world is completely ******.


Naitanui will go on the long term injury list, wouldn't he? Lycett not up and running until late in the summer, Petrie your round 1 ruckman.
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Re: 2016 Draft discussion

Postby MW » Tue Nov 29, 2016 12:21 pm

Booney wrote:
stan wrote:Drew Petrie, clearly a break glass only if world is completely ******.


Naitanui will go on the long term injury list, wouldn't he? Lycett not up and running until late in the summer, Petrie your round 1 ruckman.


not ideal is it but better than a bean pole kid getting smashed week in week out
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Re: 2016 Draft discussion

Postby Brodlach » Tue Nov 29, 2016 12:49 pm

Giles?
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Re: 2016 Draft discussion

Postby carey » Tue Nov 29, 2016 7:55 pm

For mine the fact Petrie can even be drafted as a rookie says the system is flawed.
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Re: 2016 Draft discussion

Postby whufc » Tue Nov 29, 2016 9:46 pm

carey wrote:For mine the fact Petrie can even be drafted as a rookie says the system is flawed.


Come on simpleton, surely you can comprehend how a 300 game player can be on any list that is for rookies ;)
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Re: 2016 Draft discussion

Postby MatteeG » Tue Nov 29, 2016 10:24 pm

carey wrote:For mine the fact Petrie can even be drafted as a rookie says the system is flawed.


Yep, piss the whole rookie system off.

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Re: 2016 Draft discussion

Postby Jim05 » Tue Nov 29, 2016 10:32 pm

carey wrote:For mine the fact Petrie can even be drafted as a rookie says the system is flawed.

Will be a moot point in a few months time. They will all be part of the main list and won't have to wait for a LTI to be upgraded
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