Jim05 wrote:jo172 wrote:Yank Man wrote:jo172 wrote:The inherent irony in bragging about being more professional enabling a the professional party to successfully cheat a community football salary Cap hurts my head.
In any event it will be interesting to see what, if any, chips fall with the CFL
Respect your posts jo172, here's a scenario for you to analyse, an x junior of your club got drafted to the AFL, after a few years he got cut. He returned to his SANFL club and played in a premiership. He wants to come back to his junior club to finish his career. What do you offer him, bearing in mind clubs outside SA have given him a guarantee of $100k plus, which includes a job, assistant coaching role and senior player. What I'm saying is how the hell do we keep them when we are all favouring the current cap but are getting smashed by those who don't give a f..k.
Take away the Premiership and the literal thing happened to us last year and I can confirm a "professional" close to the Metro area club has no qualms.
Take away the frustrations of it all and we remove TPPS and APPS and it all gets very Darwinian. I suspect that's not in Community Football's interests
I have a huge issue with lumping in all associations as one.
There are some very well run clubs/associations out there and why should they be penalised because other clubs/associations are poorly run?
I just don't see the need for both a salary cap and a points cap. Should only be one or the other.
It's interesting that ultimately it comes down to whether you're a capitalist or a socialist. In my mind - why should clubs that aren't in as fortunate circumstance as others not be able to exist merely because of others greed?
We also really need to get away from this notion:
lots of $$$ = well run
not much money = poorly run
You could put a moderately trained monkey in charge of some of the clubs that have wineries, farms, pubs and the entire community of a small town bankrolling them. On the other hand you could put Bill Gates and Warren Buffet in charge of others and they'd still struggle.
This forum got into the nitty gritty of it previously, but footy in general is in a competition with opponents that are stronger than they've ever been: Soccer, Basketball, UFC, Music Festivals, Video Games etc etc etc
The landscape has changed. It's no longer cricket in the Summer and footy in the Winter as the only options. We need to protect the variety, history, culture and charm of all clubs that contribute to the fabric of football to ensure there are as many as possible gateways and options for everyone and anyone to throw on the boots - from the just short of the SANFL young 21 year old gun on $800/game in the country, to the old man hanging onto his youth in C3, to the disenfranchised and struggling single father who needs a social avenue... they all have their place and deserve the same amount of respect and support.
If we lose that respect and keep following an unbridled capitalist path which services only the top end - we will pull at the threads of the fabric that enables our sport to thrive. Clubs will fold. Kids will play soccer instead. Interest will decrease. Numbers will decrease. Attendance will decrease. Sponsorships will decrease. Funding will decrease.
Some might say "good, we need fewer clubs" but they'd be forgetting that a lot of those clubs, like Mitchell Park, still provide access for people to play the sport. Some of those people go on and play at a really high level.
So although we compete on Saturdays and for players, as clubs we're actually in all of this together - which is why a consistent points (with all its flaws, granted) and salary cap apply. If we're healthy from the bottom to the top, everyone benefits.