Crows 2016

[Booney]

Geelong showed the game plan to beat us. Rolling 4 man half back line that reads the forward entry extremely well and moves accordingly.
Not all sides have the footy smarts that Enright, Taylor on co. have though.
If we get Geelong at any stage during the finals I fear we do not have a plan around this.

They took the corridor off you and you couldn't change lanes coming out of the back half, meant you had to stop or go laterally and then the space is taken away forward of the ball.

[MW]

Yeah they got put off by consistently bombing it to the Geelong defenders also which didn't help their decision making.
We need some tough games the next two weeks to sharpen up that's for sure.
Port will bring it no matter who is in their 22. Always a 50/50 game.
WCE will be playing for a home final and will bring it also.

[Booney]

Yeah they got put off by consistently bombing it to the Geelong defenders also which didn't help their decision making.
We need some tough games the next two weeks to sharpen up that's for sure.
Port will bring it no matter who is in their 22. Always a 50/50 game.
WCE will be playing for a home final and will bring it also.

I agree the West Coast game will be pivotal, they've won 7 of their last 8 and Naitanui has been very important upon his return.

The Showdown is set to be ugly.

[hawks21]

Geelong showed the game plan to beat us. Rolling 4 man half back line that reads the forward entry extremely well and moves accordingly.
Not all sides have the footy smarts that Enright, Taylor on co. have though.
If we get Geelong at any stage during the finals I fear we do not have a plan around this.

They took the corridor off you and you couldn't change lanes coming out of the back half, meant you had to stop or go laterally and then the space is taken away forward of the ball.

Yep, being a wet and windy day didn't help either, we weren't able to switch or use the corridor as much as we would have liked. I believe we have a better chance of beating Geelong on the MCG where we can use the wide expanses and not get stuck kicking down the line to Taylor and Enright.

[Grahaml]

C'mon lads, what could possibly be better for the state than a Crows Premiership

Won't happen. Joethegoose will get shut down next month.

regards,

REB

Only way you will stop it is to stop the supply. No defenders can keep up with Jenkins/Betts over 100m from wing to goal square!

I've been amazed at how many people see the end result and think it was a bloke sitting in the goalsquare waiting for the cheap one. Maybe back in the 70s or 80s that was the case, but those goals are earned these days. Mostly it comes about because Betts, Walker or Jenkins have beaten an opponent one on one, often to an extent the defender has gone to ground and we've suddenly got a plus 1. It's avoiding the losing contest that sides need to focus on, not some idea that they just have to stand next to a bloke so he can't get the handball.

[Grahaml]

Geelong showed the game plan to beat us. Rolling 4 man half back line that reads the forward entry extremely well and moves accordingly.
Not all sides have the footy smarts that Enright, Taylor on co. have though.
If we get Geelong at any stage during the finals I fear we do not have a plan around this.

They took the corridor off you and you couldn't change lanes coming out of the back half, meant you had to stop or go laterally and then the space is taken away forward of the ball.

Yep, being a wet and windy day didn't help either, we weren't able to switch or use the corridor as much as we would have liked. I believe we have a better chance of beating Geelong on the MCG where we can use the wide expanses and not get stuck kicking down the line to Taylor and Enright.

Yep, we struggled mostly to hit that short 25m pass inside. Led to ugly turnovers and then a lack of confidence. Maybe conditions didn't help, but our footskills in general are our greatest weakness IMHO. Switching the play at that ground is always problematic because you just don't have the same width. Even Adelaide oval is wider than Simmonds.

[MW]

Most people understand it's not as simple as sitting in the goal square, it is the uneducated and those that want to troll that suggest otherwise.

[Wedgie]

I've said for a while the Crows play a brand of "bruise free footy" in both their As and Bs occasionally prone to awful turnovers in the backlines.
It is also high scoring and exciting footy.
This will work one of two ways, it will either mean they fail miserably in the finals when it becomes more physical or they'll list their physicality to compliment their current gameplay.
Hawks are similar Geelong a few years ago, winning lots of games by small margins means you're usually found out in finals.
Geelong are too inconsistent and GWS are too young.
You need a gameplay to compete with an end of season finals hardened Sydney to win the flag and IMHO they don't (yet?).

[hawks21]

I've said for a while the Crows play a brand of "bruise free footy" in both their As and Bs occasionally prone to awful turnovers in the backlines.
It is also high scoring and exciting footy.
This will work one of two ways, it will either mean they fail miserably in the finals when it becomes more physical or they'll list their physicality to compliment their current gameplay.
Hawks are similar Geelong a few years ago, winning lots of games by small margins means you're usually found out in finals.
Geelong are too inconsistent and GWS are too young.
You need a gameplay to compete with an end of season finals hardened Sydney to win the flag and IMHO they don't (yet?).

I'm not sure i agree. When our skills are off the ball is on the ground a fair bit with a lot of numbers around the contest which is far from 'bruise free footy'. We do however try and move the ball quickly and try put it out in space to our advantage. We have a lot of inside midfielders that get a lot of contested footy and feed out to our outside players. The balance is about right IMO.

[MW]

Once we get it past the contested ball it can seem "bruise free" cause of how quick they move it, but tell that to the inside mids getting it out...far from it.

[stan]

Bruise free? Strange call really considering there bread and butter is contested ball. Only now have they worked on that outside run.

If a team is sitting 3rd after a tough draw and being accused of playing bruise free football, its probably because the slow as shit teams cant get near them.

[Wedgie]

OK, point completely missed by a couple but I'll explain and as I said its very evident watching both their sides in matches this year. Everyone has insiders that get the ball, always have, always will, that's completely irrelevant.
Once they get the ball they'll do anything to avoid a contest, this quite often includes making extremely difficult high risk plays.
Other clubs on the other hand prefer the safer option by kicking to a contest while others are even more extreme and look for a contest.
So many goals I saw in the games I've sat (or stood) watching Adelaide are poor turn overs on the half back line. Either skill levels will rise to make this less of an issue or as pressure rises in finals make it more of an issue which is to me why there's a big question mark hanging over the Crows.
No insult intended, I have a much bigger question mark over my own team for different reasons, as I said before the Crows style is also a high scoring exciting brand at times which is great to watch, I'm just unsure as to how it will hold up in finals.

[Wedgie]

Bruise free? Strange call really considering there bread and butter is contested ball. Only now have they worked on that outside run.

If a team is sitting 3rd after a tough draw and being accused of playing bruise free football, its probably because the slow as shit teams cant get near them.

Another who's completely misses the point.
Didn't Geelong get near them? We're slow as shit.

[MW]

Which teams deliberately look to dispose to a contest?

[Wedgie]

Which teams deliberately look to dispose to a contest?

Geelong and Sydney quite often do, very frustrating as a Geelong supporter where Sydney pull it off * more effectively. Hawkins and Buddy are prime examples. Other teams will kick to vacant space if given the option.

[mighty hounds]

OK, point completely missed by a couple but I'll explain and as I said its very evident watching both their sides in matches this year. Everyone has insiders that get the ball, always have, always will, that's completely irrelevant.
Once they get the ball they'll do anything to avoid a contest, this quite often includes making extremely difficult high risk plays.
Other clubs on the other hand prefer the safer option by kicking to a contest while others are even more extreme and look for a contest.
So many goals I saw in the games I've sat (or stood) watching Adelaide are poor turn overs on the half back line. Either skill levels will rise to make this less of an issue or as pressure rises in finals make it more of an issue which is to me why there's a big question mark hanging over the Crows.
No insult intended, I have a much bigger question mark over my own team for different reasons, as I said before the Crows style is also a high scoring exciting brand at times which is great to watch, I'm just unsure as to how it will hold up in finals.

gee didn't know being able to score goals would be an disadvantage trying to win a finals match

[MW]

At times Crows tend to do that to Tex also but he cannot hold a mark to save his life or get in front of his opponent. Helps to have Betts and Cameron at his feet though.

[Wedgie]

OK, I give up. It's like trying to talk about climate change with a Pauline Hanson senator. Just call me a troll and move on.
Everyone completely disregard the point and observation. I've had some good chats with Crows fans at pubs about this, that'll do.
Cheers.

[mighty hounds]

OK, I give up. It's like trying to talk about climate change with a Pauline Hanson senator. Just call me a troll and move on.
Everyone completely disregard the point and observation. I've had some good chats with Crows fans at pubs about this, that'll do.
Cheers.

stop trolling

[helicopterking]

OK, point completely missed by a couple but I'll explain and as I said its very evident watching both their sides in matches this year. Everyone has insiders that get the ball, always have, always will, that's completely irrelevant.
Once they get the ball they'll do anything to avoid a contest, this quite often includes making extremely difficult high risk plays.
Other clubs on the other hand prefer the safer option by kicking to a contest while others are even more extreme and look for a contest.
So many goals I saw in the games I've sat (or stood) watching Adelaide are poor turn overs on the half back line. Either skill levels will rise to make this less of an issue or as pressure rises in finals make it more of an issue which is to me why there's a big question mark hanging over the Crows.
No insult intended, I have a much bigger question mark over my own team for different reasons, as I said before the Crows style is also a high scoring exciting brand at times which is great to watch, I'm just unsure as to how it will hold up in finals.

gee didn't know being able to score goals would be an disadvantage trying to win a finals match

But finals intensity and Pressure goes up, scoring high becomes less likely.
The question will be if Crows can defend well enough and win only kicking 8- 12 goals which finals usually are.