bye bye Mr Rudd

[Coorong]

I will.

I can tell you in advance what it will be.

By the way, Coorong, most of the world is to the left of you

Been a while, thought you would have made the call and set the record straight by now.......unless it is not all fiction

[redandblack]

Well I did. To be fair to smac, he messaged me with the details, so full marks to him.

So as not to compromise him, I rang a different Federal ALP member's office and .......

the answer was "definitely not'.

I was shocked

[Psyber]

Well I did. To be fair to smac, he messaged me with the details, so full marks to him.

So as not to compromise him, I rang a different Federal ALP member's office and .......

the answer was "definitely not'.

I was shocked

Perhaps there are differences of opinion in the ranks, and it will be fought out after the election if Labor wins? I agree the same happens in all parties. The internal power struggles are always shelved just before elections.

[redandblack]

Kevin Rudd's reign as saviour of the Labor Party is almost over...

He has dug himself into a hole by lying about what happened in WA and the government will further expose this truth this week. Politically he is finished and all the hard work he has done in the last couple of months building his status and credibility is now a waste of time. Can't see him making it to the election. The Labor party need to win key marginal seats in WA to have any chance in the election. There will be turmoil again as they fight amongst themselves to get yet another leader, perhaps Gillard??

The Labor party will be back to the same old tricks.....

This was the first post on this thread.

We all often get it wrong, but.........

[noone]

lol, just missed the mark.

[am Bays]

Is it just me or is everyone else sick of Mr Goody-two-shoes Rudd, sitting back and letting the Labour Premiers attack the Howard govt over Water (Bracks and Media- Mad -say-nothing - Mike), Dr Haneef (Beattie) and other major issues so Rudd can appear to be the voice of moderation and consensus to appeal to the middle ground of Australain politics....

Anyone notice that 'ol Julia has been pushed fairly and squarely into the background lately....obviously the Labor party recognise she is a liability....

[Dogwatcher]

I guess if Mr Howard wants to intrude upon state affairs (water, hospitals, Aboriginal health), then he's going to have to accept some flak from the Rudd sympathisers in the Premiers of each state.

[smac]

Perhaps DW, but if Rudd is auditioning to lead my country, I wouldn't mind if he had an opinion every now and then. Show some balls and make a stand.

Currently looks like a nancy boy too scared to do anything. Not my choice for a national leader.

[mick]

I don't blame Rudd for not saying much, it is a good tactic politically. If you cast your minds back to 1996 John Howard did a similar thing, kept his head down and made no contraversial statements because the Keating Government was one the nose. The ALP has learn't a lot after successive election defeats since 1996, and as much as it pains me to say it is well and truly on track for victory. The people they have wisely kept in the background Gillard, Garrett etc. will unfortunately emerge and have influence if they are victorious. I just hope they don't bugger our country too much.

[am Bays]

I don't blame Rudd for not saying much, it is a good tactic politically. If you cast your minds back to 1996 John Howard did a similar thing, kept his head down and made no contraversial statements because the Keating Government was one the nose.

I 100% agree it is smart politics....

[smac]

I agree, it is a 'clean' way through the next few months.

That may also bring about a change in opinions though - if the Libs manage to convince the public he has no 'stones' it may start to unravel.

[scoob]

Whilst he agrees with everything the government is doing, he not gonna get my vote, why vote for them if they have the same opinions as the gov. At least they got a good economic record... if he wants my vote he has to show some leadership first...

[Leaping Lindner]

Chainsaw Kev has far too much "me too" for my liking. It's a choice between Hepatitis A or Hepatitis B as far I see it.

[Psyber]

I don't blame Rudd for not saying much, it is a good tactic politically. If you cast your minds back to 1996 John Howard did a similar thing, kept his head down and made no contraversial statements because the Keating Government was one the nose. The ALP has learn't a lot after successive election defeats since 1996, and as much as it pains me to say it is well and truly on track for victory. The people they have wisely kept in the background Gillard, Garrett etc. will unfortunately emerge and have influence if they are victorious. I just hope they don't bugger our country too much.

I am already making plans to be out of the country from early next year for a year or two - maybe longer depending how things go. [But I'd be going whoever wins.]

I'm torn though - my Aussie capital would be worth more against the Euro under the status quo, but inflation and rising interest rates will increase my investment income.... unless the value of the AU$ drops dramatically as it has under Labor federal governments in the past. So should I keep my property here and hope it goes up dramatically with inflation like it did under Whitlam, and also under Hawke/Keating, or get my capital out while the AU$ is strong against foreign currencies....

Arghh! The anguish and pain of Capitalism.....

[redden whites]

my heart bleeds

[Psyber]

my heart bleeds

I thought it would R&W. I was expecting sympathy.

My point was that life, and politics, has its problems for all of us, just different ones for different people at different stages of life.

My parents struggled and bought their first home when Dad was 52. I did at 24, but had to borrow half the deposit from my older sister. It was a financial stretch at the time. I have just worked hard and made good investments since. Now I just don't want the government - any government - to wreck it for me!

[blueandwhite]

It is smart politics by Mr Rudd to keep a quiet profile at this time.
We have an idea when the election will be called but no firm date. Mr Rudd will be waiting for the home stretch before he presents his policies to finally deliver the coup de gras on this miserly mean spirited divisive government.

[Psyber]

It is smart politics by Mr Rudd to keep a quiet profile at this time.
We have an idea when the election will be called but no firm date. Mr Rudd will be waiting for the home stretch before he presents his policies to finally deliver the coup de gras on this miserly mean spirited divisive government.

I think you are right, and that he is right to do this as a strategy. I'm just concerned, from the vague noises off, what beasties may emerge from behind that nice Mr Right.

Julia Gillard, among others, really worries me, and it worries me more that she has been silenced since the last hints she let slip. On the other hand I am not very fond of our present Liberal government either, and hesitated about renewing my Liberal Party membership this year, doing so only because from the inside at least I have a voice.

[Lunchcutter]

Can someone tell me why when I was thinking about buring my house the Federal grant was going to help with the deposit but the States $16,000.00 stamp duty kept me in the rental for another 2 years then i was on the roundabout because housing had gone up my stamp duty was $21,000.00

Why can't stamp duty be waive for first home buyers or the % of stamp duty be halfed at least, what in the hell do the State Government do to help with the purchase of a house?
Young married couples these days can't have kids because it needs 2 wages to try and save a deposit and make mortage payments.

seems toe if you are paying taxes and working you are definately behind the eight ball.

Regrugees, ex cons, can get public housing,single women who have never contributed to the tax system can have a kid a year $8,000 bonus a year a good pension and never have to work plus public housing and usually a defacto to help suck the system blind.

Makes me think sometimes should I be lying in a warm bed at 6.30 am and not leaving for work? and waiting for the Government to put my "pay" in the bank.

Depressed

[Lunchcutter]

I vote for the first party who drops stamp duty on puchaches of homes it's just a rip off