by Footy Chick » Sun Jul 03, 2016 8:48 pm
Gatt_Weasel wrote:if they (Walkerville) dont win the flag ill run around the block of my street naked :) you can grab a chair and enjoy the view
by morell » Sun Jul 03, 2016 9:18 pm
Strange thing to say considering the SAAFL is 7 divisions deep with a very wide variety of standards therein.oyster wrote:jo172 wrote:This is essentially exactly what people were saying about Edwardstown inD4 9 months ago.
SFL. Meh
Agreed Jo172.
I've seen a fair amount of country footy over the last 3-4 years and the SFL is miles off the SAAFL.
by Dutchy » Sun Jul 03, 2016 9:20 pm
Footy Chick wrote:I know nothing about SFL and wont pretend to - but these clubs coming in - how do you think their playing stocks be effected? positively or negatively by the change of league?
by Dutchy » Sun Jul 03, 2016 9:25 pm
morell wrote:
Bottom couple of the SFL would be D7/D6, next couple D6/D5, next couple D5, most would be about D4, top few D3 maybe D2.
by LaughingKookaburra » Sun Jul 03, 2016 9:28 pm
by heater31 » Sun Jul 03, 2016 9:29 pm
Dutchy wrote:Footy Chick wrote:I know nothing about SFL and wont pretend to - but these clubs coming in - how do you think their playing stocks be effected? positively or negatively by the change of league?
Thats a good question, these players are used to playing at grounds within a max 20 min drive from their home ground, will they be happy driving an hour+ nearly every 2nd week to get out North? or do they go play somewhere else in the SFL?
I doubt this would affect Brighton as their seniors have very much come from their junior ranks, but Marion, MP & Hackham all have minimal junior set ups so rely on recruiting and $'s.
by oyster » Sun Jul 03, 2016 9:43 pm
LaughingKookaburra wrote:Hey Oyster I haven't seen either in the last 12 months but I'd have Western Border better than Yorkes , North Eastern ect....
by Dutchy » Sun Jul 03, 2016 9:46 pm
heater31 wrote:Dutchy wrote:Footy Chick wrote:I know nothing about SFL and wont pretend to - but these clubs coming in - how do you think their playing stocks be effected? positively or negatively by the change of league?
Thats a good question, these players are used to playing at grounds within a max 20 min drive from their home ground, will they be happy driving an hour+ nearly every 2nd week to get out North? or do they go play somewhere else in the SFL?
I doubt this would affect Brighton as their seniors have very much come from their junior ranks, but Marion, MP & Hackham all have minimal junior set ups so rely on recruiting and $'s.
What about Brighton's Thirds? They play on a Sunday. Will have to switch to a Saturday morning possibly or maybe travel more than the A grade.
by knowitall » Sun Jul 03, 2016 9:49 pm
Footy Chick wrote:I know nothing about SFL and wont pretend to - but these clubs coming in - how do you think their playing stocks be effected? positively or negatively by the change of league?
by LaughingKookaburra » Sun Jul 03, 2016 9:53 pm
by hollywood7477 » Mon Jul 04, 2016 1:44 pm
oyster wrote:jo172 wrote:This is essentially exactly what people were saying about Edwardstown inD4 9 months ago.
SFL. Meh
Agreed Jo172.
I've seen a fair amount of country footy over the last 3-4 years and the SFL is miles off the SAAFL.
The Barossa league is clearly the strongest country league in the state by a fair way, followed by the Great Southern and Adelaide Hills (not much separates the standard of these two leagues) and then the SFL a very distant 4th, 5th or 6th. The North Eastern FL, SFL and Yorke Peninsula would be all on a par. Not much separates those 3 leagues. Mallee, River Murray and Riverland after that.
That a pretty fair assessment of the country leagues. The SFL is very, very average other than 2 or 3 sides.
by oyster » Mon Jul 04, 2016 3:17 pm
hollywood7477 wrote:oyster wrote:jo172 wrote:This is essentially exactly what people were saying about Edwardstown inD4 9 months ago.
SFL. Meh
Agreed Jo172.
I've seen a fair amount of country footy over the last 3-4 years and the SFL is miles off the SAAFL.
The Barossa league is clearly the strongest country league in the state by a fair way, followed by the Great Southern and Adelaide Hills (not much separates the standard of these two leagues) and then the SFL a very distant 4th, 5th or 6th. The North Eastern FL, SFL and Yorke Peninsula would be all on a par. Not much separates those 3 leagues. Mallee, River Murray and Riverland after that.
That a pretty fair assessment of the country leagues. The SFL is very, very average other than 2 or 3 sides.
Didn't Reynella win some country championship at the start of the year????
by heater31 » Mon Jul 04, 2016 3:20 pm
by godra » Mon Jul 04, 2016 3:28 pm
by Fricky » Mon Jul 04, 2016 3:42 pm
knowitall wrote:Footy Chick wrote:I know nothing about SFL and wont pretend to - but these clubs coming in - how do you think their playing stocks be effected? positively or negatively by the change of league?
Surely the first people they asked in their clubs have been the players.
by Dutchy » Mon Jul 04, 2016 4:40 pm
godra wrote:If the talk is true, my thoughts on where clubs could fall in. This is based on seeing various SFL and SAAFL games this season.
Brighton - Div 2. Far too strong for Div 3. Premiership contender in the SFL who have beaten Flaggies this year and come close to Reynella (who did win the Country Club Championship earlier this year as another poster correctly pointed out) earlier this year, with another blockbuster rematch later this month. I could see Brighton vs SHOC/Gaza being very close games. That is on the proviso Brighton keeps their players if a change in league happens.
Morphie Parks - Personally I liken them to the strength of Edwardstown when they were in the SFL, hence would suggest Div 4. I would imagine they would win more than they lose in Div 4. But I could see others arguing for Div 5 which wouldn't be a wrong answer either. Morphie Parks have been pushed by lesser teams this year but seem to come up with a win at the end of the day.
Hackham/Marion - I feel these teams are at the same level and I would happily suggest Div 6 is appropriate for both of these teams. But if required, I don't think any team could argue acceptance into Div 7 to kick things off. Hackham face the problem of a more than long drive to many grounds which would seriously jeopardise numbers willing to play and travel that far.
I am not proclaiming to be a suburban football expert, this is just my opinion on the state of affairs based on what I have seen different sides offer at various levels of football this year. The SFL would miss Brighton if they do depart, one of the strongest clubs in the league. I can't see the SFL missing Morphie Parks, Hackham or Marion too much if they do leave however.
by hollywood7477 » Mon Jul 04, 2016 5:01 pm
Dutchy wrote:godra wrote:If the talk is true, my thoughts on where clubs could fall in. This is based on seeing various SFL and SAAFL games this season.
Brighton - Div 2. Far too strong for Div 3. Premiership contender in the SFL who have beaten Flaggies this year and come close to Reynella (who did win the Country Club Championship earlier this year as another poster correctly pointed out) earlier this year, with another blockbuster rematch later this month. I could see Brighton vs SHOC/Gaza being very close games. That is on the proviso Brighton keeps their players if a change in league happens.
Morphie Parks - Personally I liken them to the strength of Edwardstown when they were in the SFL, hence would suggest Div 4. I would imagine they would win more than they lose in Div 4. But I could see others arguing for Div 5 which wouldn't be a wrong answer either. Morphie Parks have been pushed by lesser teams this year but seem to come up with a win at the end of the day.
Hackham/Marion - I feel these teams are at the same level and I would happily suggest Div 6 is appropriate for both of these teams. But if required, I don't think any team could argue acceptance into Div 7 to kick things off. Hackham face the problem of a more than long drive to many grounds which would seriously jeopardise numbers willing to play and travel that far.
I am not proclaiming to be a suburban football expert, this is just my opinion on the state of affairs based on what I have seen different sides offer at various levels of football this year. The SFL would miss Brighton if they do depart, one of the strongest clubs in the league. I can't see the SFL missing Morphie Parks, Hackham or Marion too much if they do leave however.
Pretty accurate I reckon, I know it was only a trial game but it was the last trial of the pre-season and both teams were full strength when Flaggies belted Plympton this year by 20 goals and Plympton are mid table in Div 3. Brighton should be straight to Div 2, especially as they get some Glenelg overflow.
by tigerpie » Mon Jul 04, 2016 7:01 pm
by oyster » Mon Jul 04, 2016 7:31 pm
tigerpie wrote:The top 4 sfl clubs would be comfortable in div 2 and one of them would possibly win the flag.
Unless you've been to an sfl grand final you can't judge the standard.
Pretty sure southern districts has won the country championship recently which is a combination of great southern and southern players.
Just saying.
by tigerpie » Mon Jul 04, 2016 9:18 pm
oyster wrote:tigerpie wrote:The top 4 sfl clubs would be comfortable in div 2 and one of them would possibly win the flag.
Unless you've been to an sfl grand final you can't judge the standard.
Pretty sure southern districts has won the country championship recently which is a combination of great southern and southern players.
Just saying.
We've now established that the top 4 in the SFL are somewhere between the middle of Div 2 and the middle of Div 3, depending on how people see the games. Now we have established that, we have to work out how these clubs are going to enter the SAAFL? There would have to be a vacancy for Brighton or any SFL club to come into division 3. The league themselves might welcome Brighton with open arms, but the clubs ultimately are in charge of the league and they won't give up a spot in a higher grade if they think they've earn't it.
There is no way, that Brighton will walk into D2 or D3. The only vacant space is in D4 and that might change if both clubs in D5 decide they don't want to come up. They cant have a 12 team competition or there would be 22 games in the season. The SAAFL clubs won't just allow these SFL clubs to walk into the competition and play in the grade they want, at their clubs expense. Especially when Brighton have come and gone from the SAAFL before. There will be an enormous amount of disharmony amongst SAAFL clubs if Brighton are allowed back into D3
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