by saintal » Wed Jun 29, 2016 9:23 am
by Dogs72 » Wed Jun 29, 2016 9:59 am
saintal wrote:Junk article, although at least the situation is getting some press. (there is no such thing as bad publicity..right?)
Mentions some stats and then reminisces about the old times. Makes no attempt to delve deeper into why crowds are down. Some vague comments about clubs needing to change and find new ways of engaging the masses.
I too recall his argument when the debate was on in earnest. Bigger crowds. More media. Standard will suffer if the AFL listed players go elsewhere. But most of all, Sando and his Crows need a reserves team to keep pace with the likes of Hawthorn and Geelong. It just has to happen.
I notice in the article he states the standard of the league is dropping. That is up for debate, but regardless my assumption is that Bone could count on one hand the number of SANFL games he's attended in the past 5-10 years.
He finishes with this peculiar pearl of wisdom:
The AFL is a monster and it is getting bigger by the day. It cannot and will not be stopped. If you can’t beat it, join it.
by wild dog » Wed Jun 29, 2016 10:03 am
Wedgie wrote:Centrals crowd is only up because they had a good Friday home game. Take away the extra 2-3000 they got for that than normal and you'll have a more accurate figure. I took a full car of people that don't normally attend games to that who wouldn't have even considered going if it was on any other day of the year.
by wild dog » Wed Jun 29, 2016 10:17 am
by Dutchy » Wed Jun 29, 2016 10:37 am
saintal wrote:
He finishes with this peculiar pearl of wisdom:
The AFL is a monster and it is getting bigger by the day. It cannot and will not be stopped. If you can’t beat it, join it.
by csbowes » Thu Jun 30, 2016 12:58 am
by mighty_tiger_79 » Thu Jun 30, 2016 8:58 am
by zipzap » Thu Jun 30, 2016 9:16 am
csbowes wrote: the $100K they are getting each year for their presence. I didn't think they got $100K, but that's what the GM said.
by Dutchy » Thu Jun 30, 2016 10:59 am
csbowes wrote:Well I see Sturt FC was on CH7 espousing how great it is to have the AFL reserves teams in the league.
The GM commented that people should watch they wish for with regards the AFL teams going, as it would hurt the league significantly.
Marty Mattner was also on saying how it makes the teams better etc.
So clear that Sturt's position has not changed since voting yes. They are obviously a massive supporter of their presence and also commented on the $100K they are getting each year for their presence. I didn't think they got $100K, but that's what the GM said.
by Magellan » Thu Jun 30, 2016 11:40 am
wild dog wrote:It was so disappointing having SANFL legends advocate for the AFL reserves inclusion. Guys like McDermott advocated to experiment with the league that made him, at a time when it was not required. At least now there is some public debate. The ridicule from Riccuito et al when anyone dares suggest that its no good for the comp has resulted in a complicit silence.
by Aerie » Thu Jun 30, 2016 12:28 pm
by Wedgie » Thu Jun 30, 2016 12:45 pm
Aerie wrote:Heard discussion on 5AA this morning and disappointing they were comparing stats to the year before the AFL sides came in. This was the worst year of crowds up to that point and many SANFL fans were disrupted that year by all the discussion - which probably contributed in some way to the poor turn outs that year as well.
Sturt are a positive club at the moment. Good on them, it is working on and off the field. But trying to say anything positive about the inclusion of AFL teams to the competition and the positive impact of the AFL to anything to do with the league is pulling the other one. Especially with the benefit of hindsight, which we now have.
For those who don't understand, you only have to think about how you'd feel if the AFL competition was compromised to the extent the SANFL has been. Then understand that there are/were people who prioritised their SANFL clubs over anything else. These people were treated like a joke. Hence the drop off.
Armchair expert wrote:Such a great club are Geelong
by robranisgod » Thu Jun 30, 2016 1:33 pm
by whufc » Thu Jun 30, 2016 3:52 pm
Wedgie wrote:Centrals crowd is only up because they had a good Friday home game. Take away the extra 2-3000 they got for that than normal and you'll have a more accurate figure. I took a full car of people that don't normally attend games to that who wouldn't have even considered going if it was on any other day of the year.
by RB » Thu Jun 30, 2016 10:03 pm
by VALE PARK » Thu Jun 30, 2016 11:30 pm
by Sadismo » Fri Jul 01, 2016 8:57 am
Dutchy wrote:csbowes wrote:Well I see Sturt FC was on CH7 espousing how great it is to have the AFL reserves teams in the league.
The GM commented that people should watch they wish for with regards the AFL teams going, as it would hurt the league significantly.
Marty Mattner was also on saying how it makes the teams better etc.
So clear that Sturt's position has not changed since voting yes. They are obviously a massive supporter of their presence and also commented on the $100K they are getting each year for their presence. I didn't think they got $100K, but that's what the GM said.
Well Sturt is the only club that has their debt guaranteed by the SANFL so they need to stay in their good books
by Wedgie » Fri Jul 01, 2016 9:23 am
Sadismo wrote:Dutchy wrote:csbowes wrote:Well I see Sturt FC was on CH7 espousing how great it is to have the AFL reserves teams in the league.
The GM commented that people should watch they wish for with regards the AFL teams going, as it would hurt the league significantly.
Marty Mattner was also on saying how it makes the teams better etc.
So clear that Sturt's position has not changed since voting yes. They are obviously a massive supporter of their presence and also commented on the $100K they are getting each year for their presence. I didn't think they got $100K, but that's what the GM said.
Well Sturt is the only club that has their debt guaranteed by the SANFL so they need to stay in their good books
Absolutely not true that Sturt had their debt guaranteed by SANFL. They traded out of their financial woes through the debt demolition campaign, benefactors and hard work by board and management. The only thing the SANFL did was advance their distribution for two months so as they could pay long term creditors. SANFL categorically did not or have not provided the club with an extra cent period.
Armchair expert wrote:Such a great club are Geelong
by Dutchy » Fri Jul 01, 2016 11:13 am
Sadismo wrote:Dutchy wrote:csbowes wrote:Well I see Sturt FC was on CH7 espousing how great it is to have the AFL reserves teams in the league.
The GM commented that people should watch they wish for with regards the AFL teams going, as it would hurt the league significantly.
Marty Mattner was also on saying how it makes the teams better etc.
So clear that Sturt's position has not changed since voting yes. They are obviously a massive supporter of their presence and also commented on the $100K they are getting each year for their presence. I didn't think they got $100K, but that's what the GM said.
Well Sturt is the only club that has their debt guaranteed by the SANFL so they need to stay in their good books
Absolutely not true that Sturt had their debt guaranteed by SANFL. They traded out of their financial woes through the debt demolition campaign, benefactors and hard work by board and management. The only thing the SANFL did was advance their distribution for two months so as they could pay long term creditors. SANFL categorically did not or have not provided the club with an extra cent period.
by tipper » Fri Jul 01, 2016 11:32 am
Dutchy wrote:Sadismo wrote:Dutchy wrote:csbowes wrote:Well I see Sturt FC was on CH7 espousing how great it is to have the AFL reserves teams in the league.
The GM commented that people should watch they wish for with regards the AFL teams going, as it would hurt the league significantly.
Marty Mattner was also on saying how it makes the teams better etc.
So clear that Sturt's position has not changed since voting yes. They are obviously a massive supporter of their presence and also commented on the $100K they are getting each year for their presence. I didn't think they got $100K, but that's what the GM said.
Well Sturt is the only club that has their debt guaranteed by the SANFL so they need to stay in their good books
Absolutely not true that Sturt had their debt guaranteed by SANFL. They traded out of their financial woes through the debt demolition campaign, benefactors and hard work by board and management. The only thing the SANFL did was advance their distribution for two months so as they could pay long term creditors. SANFL categorically did not or have not provided the club with an extra cent period.
I can categorically guarantee they did, do I need to prove it?
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