by mighty_tiger_79 » Thu Jun 16, 2016 2:02 pm
by Booney » Thu Jun 16, 2016 2:23 pm
Dogwatcher wrote:Bob Katter's not a leftie and I'm pretty certain that video's a new level of crazy.
by stan » Thu Jun 16, 2016 3:06 pm
by Gozu » Thu Jun 16, 2016 5:35 pm
by Leaping Lindner » Fri Jun 17, 2016 8:20 am
by stan » Fri Jun 17, 2016 10:02 am
by Jimmy_041 » Fri Jun 17, 2016 11:29 am
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by Dogwatcher » Fri Jun 17, 2016 11:42 am
Jimmy_041 wrote:stan wrote:FB_IMG_1466084416488.jpg
The left haven't got a mortgage on loonies (although they dominate it)
People like Trump, Nick X, Palmer, Lambie and Katter are the new disruptors in politics
Only out for themselves like every other politician but are better at disguising it
by Booney » Fri Jun 17, 2016 11:44 am
by Jimmy_041 » Fri Jun 17, 2016 1:12 pm
Dogwatcher wrote:Jimmy_041 wrote:stan wrote:The attachment FB_IMG_1466084416488.jpg is no longer available
The left haven't got a mortgage on loonies (although they dominate it)
People like Trump, Nick X, Palmer, Lambie and Katter are the new disruptors in politics
Only out for themselves like every other politician but are better at disguising it
It's their lack of party allegiance that hides it.
They allow the fringe people in our society to latch on to them because of their 'independence' and the fact they're taking on the big boys.
Mark Aldridge is another one.
I also reckon the loonies on left/right would be a fairly equal split - with barely a thought you've managed to name five of from the right, which suggests that would be the case.
by Dogwatcher » Fri Jun 17, 2016 1:26 pm
by Jimmy_041 » Fri Jun 17, 2016 2:15 pm
Dogwatcher wrote:Lambie's not right? I'd have thought her opinions on the military, Islam, refugees, The Greens and SSM put her on the right.
I don't think that meme is particularly helpful to any debate. It's an extreme representation of people who have beliefs in those things mentioned.
There would be many on 'the left' who don't think that way, just as there are many on the right who support SSM and equal opps for women.
by Dogwatcher » Fri Jun 17, 2016 2:22 pm
Jimmy_041 wrote:Dogwatcher wrote:Lambie's not right? I'd have thought her opinions on the military, Islam, refugees, The Greens and SSM put her on the right.
I don't think that meme is particularly helpful to any debate. It's an extreme representation of people who have beliefs in those things mentioned.
There would be many on 'the left' who don't think that way, just as there are many on the right who support SSM and equal opps for women.
The Greens put everyone on the right and just because some people dont agree with SSM, doesnt mean they're on the right.
That would mean these people are on the right:
Bowen
Burke
Emerson
Fitzgibbon
Gillard
Rudd
Swan
Zappia
etc etc etc
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-09-19/s ... votestable
Amazingly, most have now turned and support it.
One asks the question: What happened in the past 4 years?
Oh yeah, now they have to buy votes
I think Zappia is the only Labor NO who still opposes it
(BTW; I support it)
by Jimmy_041 » Fri Jun 17, 2016 2:46 pm
Dogwatcher wrote:Jimmy_041 wrote:Dogwatcher wrote:Lambie's not right? I'd have thought her opinions on the military, Islam, refugees, The Greens and SSM put her on the right.
I don't think that meme is particularly helpful to any debate. It's an extreme representation of people who have beliefs in those things mentioned.
There would be many on 'the left' who don't think that way, just as there are many on the right who support SSM and equal opps for women.
The Greens put everyone on the right and just because some people dont agree with SSM, doesnt mean they're on the right.
That would mean these people are on the right:
Bowen
Burke
Emerson
Fitzgibbon
Gillard
Rudd
Swan
Zappia
etc etc etc
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-09-19/s ... votestable
Amazingly, most have now turned and support it.
One asks the question: What happened in the past 4 years?
Oh yeah, now they have to buy votes
I think Zappia is the only Labor NO who still opposes it
(BTW; I support it)
In traditional political fashion, you've picked one topic out of a number to fashion your argument around it.
I think Lambie was also formerly a member of the Liberal Party. She also was elected as a PUP. I'm pretty certain you don't get selected by Clive if you're from 'the left'.
by Gozu » Fri Jun 17, 2016 4:51 pm
Dogwatcher wrote:Lambie's not right? I'd have thought her opinions on the military, Islam, refugees, The Greens and SSM put her on the right.
I don't think that meme is particularly helpful to any debate. It's an extreme representation of people who have beliefs in those things mentioned.
There would be many on 'the left' who don't think that way, just as there are many on the right who support SSM and equal opps for women.
by Jimmy_041 » Fri Jun 17, 2016 5:48 pm
Gozu wrote:Dogwatcher wrote:Lambie's not right? I'd have thought her opinions on the military, Islam, refugees, The Greens and SSM put her on the right.
I don't think that meme is particularly helpful to any debate. It's an extreme representation of people who have beliefs in those things mentioned.
There would be many on 'the left' who don't think that way, just as there are many on the right who support SSM and equal opps for women.
Maybe Lambie is to the 'left' of Jimmy though
Clearly she's a right-winger
by stan » Mon Jun 20, 2016 9:42 am
by Dogwatcher » Mon Jun 20, 2016 10:42 am
by Jimmy_041 » Mon Jun 20, 2016 10:50 am
Dogwatcher wrote:I enjoyed a political forum at Salt Church last night, featuring all of the candidates for the Wakefield electorate.
It was about two hour longs, with about half an hour dedicated to SSM and another half hour dedicated to Islam.
Might have been 10 minutes on jobs. No talk about Medicare, NBN or housing costs.
There's definitely a different climate than at the last election.
by Dogwatcher » Mon Jun 20, 2016 10:59 am
Jimmy_041 wrote:Dogwatcher wrote:I enjoyed a political forum at Salt Church last night, featuring all of the candidates for the Wakefield electorate.
It was about two hour longs, with about half an hour dedicated to SSM and another half hour dedicated to Islam.
Might have been 10 minutes on jobs. No talk about Medicare, NBN or housing costs.
There's definitely a different climate than at the last election.
DW - any mention of Shorten saying he'll give permanent residency to 30,000 asylum seekers?
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