by daysofourlives » Tue Feb 09, 2016 10:27 am
by daysofourlives » Tue Feb 09, 2016 10:28 am
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:The players made an appeal, umpire Ian Gould claims he never heard an appeal.....
Gould needs to be sacked for failing to be aware of what went on around him
by FlyingHigh » Tue Feb 09, 2016 11:37 am
bennymacca wrote:This article sums it up nicely. The process was terrible and it shouldn't have occurred in the way it did, but I would rather the right decision be made than not
http://www.cricket.com.au/news/steve-sm ... ign=nzvaus
by Grahaml » Tue Feb 09, 2016 11:38 am
by Grahaml » Tue Feb 09, 2016 11:44 am
FlyingHigh wrote:bennymacca wrote:This article sums it up nicely. The process was terrible and it shouldn't have occurred in the way it did, but I would rather the right decision be made than not
http://www.cricket.com.au/news/steve-sm ... ign=nzvaus
In that article, it says technically the ball isn't dead until the bowler starts his next run up.
So when a keeper takes a ball behind the stumps or gets a throw from a fielder, and the ball is being tossed around the field back to the bowler, technically any of the fielders can still run out either batsman?
by MAY-Z » Tue Feb 09, 2016 1:17 pm
daysofourlives wrote:I cant believe anyone thinks the right decision was made.
The umpires gave it not out, The kiwis didnt review the decision in the allotted time available to them to call for a review. They did not believe it was out.
That is the extent of the rules, no more, no less.
The 3 umpires should be sacked and never umpire international cricket again.
As for McCollum, spirit of the game, my ass!!
When was the last time an umpire gave a batsman out LBW, and as he's walking off the replay shows he hit it and the umpire calls him back??? Exact same thing
by Lightning McQueen » Tue Feb 09, 2016 1:50 pm
MAY-Z wrote:daysofourlives wrote:I cant believe anyone thinks the right decision was made.
The umpires gave it not out, The kiwis didnt review the decision in the allotted time available to them to call for a review. They did not believe it was out.
That is the extent of the rules, no more, no less.
The 3 umpires should be sacked and never umpire international cricket again.
As for McCollum, spirit of the game, my ass!!
When was the last time an umpire gave a batsman out LBW, and as he's walking off the replay shows he hit it and the umpire calls him back??? Exact same thing
that is not the extent of the rules though, the umpire is allowed to change his mind.
maybe new Zealand think they are due some spirit of the game karma after Nathan Lyon cheated them out of a test match victory
by bennymacca » Tue Feb 09, 2016 2:05 pm
by daysofourlives » Tue Feb 09, 2016 2:12 pm
MAY-Z wrote:daysofourlives wrote:I cant believe anyone thinks the right decision was made.
The umpires gave it not out, The kiwis didnt review the decision in the allotted time available to them to call for a review. They did not believe it was out.
That is the extent of the rules, no more, no less.
The 3 umpires should be sacked and never umpire international cricket again.
As for McCollum, spirit of the game, my ass!!
When was the last time an umpire gave a batsman out LBW, and as he's walking off the replay shows he hit it and the umpire calls him back??? Exact same thing
that is not the extent of the rules though, the umpire is allowed to change his mind.
maybe new Zealand think they are due some spirit of the game karma after Nathan Lyon cheated them out of a test match victory
by mighty_tiger_79 » Tue Feb 09, 2016 3:13 pm
daysofourlives wrote:mighty_tiger_79 wrote:The players made an appeal, umpire Ian Gould claims he never heard an appeal.....
Gould needs to be sacked for failing to be aware of what went on around him
If they fielding team doesnt appeal you cant be given out, simple!! Even if its a skied ball technically you must still appeal
by hawks21 » Tue Feb 09, 2016 4:55 pm
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:daysofourlives wrote:mighty_tiger_79 wrote:The players made an appeal, umpire Ian Gould claims he never heard an appeal.....
Gould needs to be sacked for failing to be aware of what went on around him
If they fielding team doesnt appeal you cant be given out, simple!! Even if its a skied ball technically you must still appeal
I agree, but I think the players did ask the question and the umpire stood there......
by whufc » Tue Feb 09, 2016 5:00 pm
hawks21 wrote:mighty_tiger_79 wrote:daysofourlives wrote:mighty_tiger_79 wrote:The players made an appeal, umpire Ian Gould claims he never heard an appeal.....
Gould needs to be sacked for failing to be aware of what went on around him
If they fielding team doesnt appeal you cant be given out, simple!! Even if its a skied ball technically you must still appeal
I agree, but I think the players did ask the question and the umpire stood there......
NZ only put in a proper appeal once they had seen a replay on the big screen. The bowler was at the top of his mark ready to bowl the next ball. Big screen replays aren't used for all balls or 50/50 decisions so the appeal should not have been accepted by the umpire. Players might now hold the game up waiting to see a replay so they can appeal.
by Grahaml » Tue Feb 09, 2016 7:16 pm
by Lightning McQueen » Wed Feb 10, 2016 8:40 am
by Booney » Wed Feb 10, 2016 8:41 am
Lightning McQueen wrote:Umpires will soon be just hat-racks.
May aswell go the whole hog and use technology for every call and get every decision correct, there will always be the element of human error when you have to look down at the crease line for a no ball then up in a split second hoping to not get a distorted view by a bowler or non striking batsman.
by Lightning McQueen » Wed Feb 10, 2016 8:58 am
Booney wrote:Lightning McQueen wrote:Umpires will soon be just hat-racks.
May aswell go the whole hog and use technology for every call and get every decision correct, there will always be the element of human error when you have to look down at the crease line for a no ball then up in a split second hoping to not get a distorted view by a bowler or non striking batsman.
Soon? They pretty much are my good man.
by Booney » Wed Feb 10, 2016 9:03 am
Lightning McQueen wrote:Booney wrote:Lightning McQueen wrote:Umpires will soon be just hat-racks.
May aswell go the whole hog and use technology for every call and get every decision correct, there will always be the element of human error when you have to look down at the crease line for a no ball then up in a split second hoping to not get a distorted view by a bowler or non striking batsman.
Soon? They pretty much are my good man.
I think they're making a mess of the game quite well at the moment, it's a tough gig though, the armchair expert gets on their high horse when the ball brushes the glove slightly and carries to the keeper and given not out.
by bennymacca » Wed Feb 10, 2016 10:26 am
by Lightning McQueen » Wed Feb 10, 2016 10:29 am
bennymacca wrote:From the right decision has gone from 85% to 95% or something like that
why is that a bad thing if you cant get to 100%?
I like the approach they have used in tennis. Hawkeye has a 5mm margin of error, about the amount of fluff on the ball, but they have gone the whole hog and just taken hawkeye as gospel. None of this umpires call benefit of the doubt rubbish
And it works. The replays are fast, and it actually adds to the game to have the reviews there, not massively detracting from it like it does in cricket and afl.
by bennymacca » Wed Feb 10, 2016 10:30 am
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