General discussion/predictions - in lead up to 2016 season

[MW]

Name a good team that finished 6th or lower in the last 3 seasons.

If someone says Port I will throw up...

[bennymacca]

How can you be as good as last year and still miss finals?

What unit of measurement are you using to determine what "good" is?

So you think how good a team is is dictated purely by win/loss in a season?

Well there's no point being "good" and finishing 10th is there.

I guess you could say the 9 teams above them are "gooder"...

Who cares about finishing 8th either. We are all wanting our teams to win the flag. If I can see that my team is on the right track, and I think it is, then finishing 9th or 8th is pretty irrelevant

[bennymacca]

Name a good team that finished 6th or lower in the last 3 seasons.

I guess you want me to say north?

Given they have made the prelim.

We also aren't talking about the top 6, we are talking about the race for the eight where the difference between making or missing the eight this year could come down to a double up game of either Essendon or a good team.

[Spargo]

You guys are honestly cooked.

Here is a better example. Everyone knew freo weren't the best team last year even though they finished top and hawthorn finished 3rd. They had a rubbish start to the year but everyone knew they were better than that, they lost 4 games in the first 8, and 3 in the in the next 19.

Easy to say after the fact Benny. Remember, it was you who on numerous times said "North were by far the worst team in the finals" last year. They got within 3 goals & some terrible home town umpiring from making the GF.
Opinions - nothing more, nothing less.

[bennymacca]

So I was the only one that was saying hawthorn were better than freo?

[Booney]

You guys are honestly cooked.

Here is a better example. Everyone knew freo weren't the best team last year even though they finished top and hawthorn finished 3rd. They had a rubbish start to the year but everyone knew they were better than that, they lost 4 games in the first 8, and 3 in the in the next 19.

Easy to say after the fact Benny. Remember, it was you who on numerous times said "North were by far the worst team in the finals" last year. They got within 3 goals & some terrible home town umpiring from making the GF.
Opinions - nothing more, nothing less.

Opinions, nothing more, nothing less. This is true.

Fact - Beat a Sydney side on the slide and lost to a Fremantle side with no ticker.

[Spargo]

You guys are honestly cooked.

Here is a better example. Everyone knew freo weren't the best team last year even though they finished top and hawthorn finished 3rd. They had a rubbish start to the year but everyone knew they were better than that, they lost 4 games in the first 8, and 3 in the in the next 19.

Easy to say after the fact Benny. Remember, it was you who on numerous times said "North were by far the worst team in the finals" last year. They got within 3 goals & some terrible home town umpiring from making the GF.
Opinions - nothing more, nothing less.

Opinions, nothing more, nothing less. This is true.

Fact - Beat a Sydney side on the slide and lost to a Fremantle side with no ticker.

Sydney who finished 4th & Richmond 5th
Doesn't say much about the rest of the comp...

[Booney]

You beat Richmond in a final!?!?!!?!?!

Well that's it then, you blokes are right on the cusp of a dynasty to rival any dynasty ever seen.

[HH3]

I didn't say anything about North.

If you lose more than you win, you're not a good side.

If you win a little bit more than you lose, you're an ok side.

And if you win a lot, you're a good side.

[Mr Beefy]

Name a good team that finished 6th or lower in the last 3 seasons.

I guess you want me to say north?

Given they have made the prelim.

We also aren't talking about the top 6, we are talking about the race for the eight where the difference between making or missing the eight this year could come down to a double up game of either Essendon or a good team.

Are the "good teams" determined by how many games they win?

[MW]

Per year there is only one good team and 17 others who don't rate a mention

[woodublieve12]

You guys are honestly cooked.

Here is a better example. Everyone knew freo weren't the best team last year even though they finished top and hawthorn finished 3rd. They had a rubbish start to the year but everyone knew they were better than that, they lost 4 games in the first 8, and 3 in the in the next 19.

Easy to say after the fact Benny. Remember, it was you who on numerous times said "North were by far the worst team in the finals" last year. They got within 3 goals & some terrible home town umpiring from making the GF.
Opinions - nothing more, nothing less.

Opinions, nothing more, nothing less. This is true.

Fact - Beat a Sydney side on the slide and lost to a Fremantle side with no ticker.

Sydney who finished 4th & Richmond 5th
Doesn't say much about the rest of the comp...

North wouldn't have got within 5 goals if the swans were fit... I am being generous with the margin..

[bennymacca]

Name a good team that finished 6th or lower in the last 3 seasons.

I guess you want me to say north?

Given they have made the prelim.

We also aren't talking about the top 6, we are talking about the race for the eight where the difference between making or missing the eight this year could come down to a double up game of either Essendon or a good team.

Are the "good teams" determined by how many games they win?

Of course it is the major factor.

But the draw obviously contributes. If it didn't we wouldn't be talking about ways to have a more equitable one.

So do injuries.

[HH3]

Good teams beat any side...

Unless your scale is -

18-9 - Good
8-2 - Better
1 - Best

[mighty_tiger_79]

Benny - I'm not sure how Geelong can be a bolter when they are only $8 for the flag.

Mind you that is a shocking price.

[Mr Beefy]

Name a good team that finished 6th or lower in the last 3 seasons.

I guess you want me to say north?

Given they have made the prelim.

We also aren't talking about the top 6, we are talking about the race for the eight where the difference between making or missing the eight this year could come down to a double up game of either Essendon or a good team.

Are the "good teams" determined by how many games they win?

Of course it is the major factor.

But the draw obviously contributes. If it didn't we wouldn't be talking about ways to have a more equitable one.

So do injuries.

It is the only factor, good teams win most of their games and finish top 4 regardless of injuries and draws. Average teams can't overcome injuries and inequitable draws.

[bennymacca]

Benny - I'm not sure how Geelong can be a bolter when they are only $8 for the flag.

Mind you that is a shocking price.

Because they finished 10th last year.

Im not really going out on a limb by saying they will finish higher than that

[Dutchy]

Don't call it a draw Benny, that implies it is random which is far from the truth, its a FIXture.

[bennymacca]

Don't call it a draw Benny, that implies it is random which is far from the truth, its a FIXture.

exactly

[mighty_tiger_79]

Benny - I'm not sure how Geelong can be a bolter when they are only $8 for the flag.

Mind you that is a shocking price.

Because they finished 10th last year.

Im not really going out on a limb by saying they will finish higher than that

sorry, my bad, I just assume a bolter is a team out of the 8 who will make genuine claims on a top 4 or better spot.

geelong aint that