End of season movements. FA, trades, bullshit etc.

[MW]

It's laughable that Carlton expect pick 2 compensation for Kruezer. He averages less than 15 games per year including only 30 over the last 3 years.

[Lightning McQueen]

Rumours that Kreuzer has failed a medical at the Dogs and Collingwood

Rumour has it that he hasn't even had a medical with any club

I'm a bit out of the loop here, did Kreuzer ask for a trade or has Carlton indicated that they wish to part ways?

[Q.]

Rumours that Kreuzer has failed a medical at the Dogs and Collingwood

Rumour has it that he hasn't even had a medical with any club

I'm a bit out of the loop here, did Kreuzer ask for a trade or has Carlton indicated that they wish to part ways?

Kruezer is a FA and if he gets a big enough offer, Carlton will get a compo pick and go into the draft with picks 1 & 2. I think they are hoping he goes for big dollars and they'd be stupid to try and keep him if that's the case.

[Lightning McQueen]

Kruezer is a FA and if he gets a big enough offer, Carlton will get a compo pick and go into the draft with picks 1 & 2. I think they are hoping he goes for big dollars and they'd be stupid to try and keep him if that's the case.

I love the guy but I think he sort of owes something to the Blues, it's all just business now.

[Turbo]

Rumours that Kreuzer has failed a medical at the Dogs and Collingwood

Rumour has it that he hasn't even had a medical with any club

I'm a bit out of the loop here, did Kreuzer ask for a trade or has Carlton indicated that they wish to part ways?

As soon as we finished bottom his offer was withdrawn cos of the possibility of receiving number two pick as compo. Is he worth it? It'll come down to how much he's offered. The precedent was set with Frawley last year with the compo Melbourne got.
If Kreuzer is offered more than $550k a year Carlton will receive pick 2 as compo.
The Afl is trying to counter act this by giving Brisbane a priority pick.
Bottom line is that free agency is a shambles and is a demonstration that the Afl makes rules for some and rules for others.

[Jim05]

Kruezer is a FA and if he gets a big enough offer, Carlton will get a compo pick and go into the draft with picks 1 & 2. I think they are hoping he goes for big dollars and they'd be stupid to try and keep him if that's the case.

I love the guy but I think he sort of owes something to the Blues, it's all just business now.

Think you will find Carlton are shopping him around. If they can get pick 2 for him them will sell, if not he stays

[Jim05]

Rumours that Kreuzer has failed a medical at the Dogs and Collingwood

Rumour has it that he hasn't even had a medical with any club

I'm a bit out of the loop here, did Kreuzer ask for a trade or has Carlton indicated that they wish to part ways?

As soon as we finished bottom his offer was withdrawn cos of the possibility of receiving number two pick as compo. Is he worth it? It'll come down to how much he's offered. The precedent was set with Frawley last year with the compo Melbourne got.
If Kreuzer is offered more than $550k a year Carlton will receive pick 2 as compo.
The Afl is trying to counter act this by giving Brisbane a priority pick.
Bottom line is that free agency is a shambles and is a demonstration that the Afl makes rules for some and rules for others.

Its not just $550k that gets you a band 1 pick. The equation is worked out on age, $ and length of contract. Kreuzer would need a 3 year deal minimum at $550k to get him band 1

[marbles]

why exactly is it that carlton receive a compo pick if kreuzer gets traded

[Lightning McQueen]

why exactly is it that carlton receive a compo pick if kreuzer gets traded

Coz.

[Q.]

why exactly is it that carlton receive a compo pick if kreuzer gets traded

It's based on the size of his next contract offer.

[bennymacca]

Kingy actually said something interesting on 360 last night (if i remember correctly)

Kreuzer hasnt played more than 15 games in a season, and has missed 60 odd of the last 200 games

He has only had more than 20 possessions once since 2009, and that is for a ruckman that is supposedly in the mobile possession type rather than the hitout type.

He has also never kicked more than 3 goals in a game, and his highest season tally is 15.

He is sometimes touted as one of the best ruckmen in the game when fit, but is he really?

Personally i think his fitness issues will stop him from getting a big contract so at best carlton will get an end of first round compo pick when he leaves - which is still probably a decent deal for them

why exactly is it that carlton receive a compo pick if kreuzer gets traded

It's based on the size of his next contract offer.

because he wont be traded, he will leave via free agency.

[Lightning McQueen]

As soon as we finished bottom his offer was withdrawn cos of the possibility of receiving number two pick as compo. Is he worth it? It'll come down to how much he's offered. The precedent was set with Frawley last year with the compo Melbourne got.
If Kreuzer is offered more than $550k a year Carlton will receive pick 2 as compo.
The Afl is trying to counter act this by giving Brisbane a priority pick.
Bottom line is that free agency is a shambles and is a demonstration that the Afl makes rules for some and rules for others.

The whole thing is pure horse shit, a kid grows up in Geelong adoring his beloved home town team, hits 18 and enters the draft only to get picked up West Coast and has to go live with total strangers on the other side of the country. He seeks a trade a couple of years later hoping to return home but finds himself drafted to Brisbane.
I find it disappointing that the kids have no say in their destination, I know it's a tough one to solve and there will probably never be a feasible solution, most fields of employment in the world if you aren't sacked, you get a choice of whether you choose to remain where you are or keep applying for the position you want until you and the employer can come to an agreement.
Yes, they are paid quite well but money isn't everything.
Looking at the Aish situation and the rumblings I'm hearing about Josh Glenn makes me think that they could find a better system.

[Lightning McQueen]

Kingy actually said something interesting on 360 last night (if i remember correctly)

Kreuzer hasnt played more than 15 games in a season, and has missed 60 odd of the last 200 games

He has only had more than 20 possessions once since 2009, and that is for a ruckman that is supposedly in the mobile possession type rather than the hitout type.

He has also never kicked more than 3 goals in a game, and his highest season tally is 15.

He is sometimes touted as one of the best ruckmen in the game when fit, but is he really?

Personally i think his fitness issues will stop him from getting a big contract so at best carlton will get an end of first round compo pick when he leaves - which is still probably a decent deal for them

why exactly is it that carlton receive a compo pick if kreuzer gets traded

It's based on the size of his next contract offer.

because he wont be traded, he will leave via free agency.

Bullshit

[Booney]

Hinkley said Port would be happy with giving up a first round pick for Dixon.

[stan]

Hinkley said Port would be happy with giving up a first round pick for Dixon.

Thats a few years of giving away your first rounder. Not a great move in my opinion.

[bennymacca]

its probably what he is worth though

[Lightning McQueen]

Hinkley said Port would be happy with giving up a first round pick for Dixon.

Thats a few years of giving away your first rounder. Not a great move in my opinion.

The list is young enough, first rounders are a bit of a lottery though, how many gems have proven to come later in the draft.

[Booney]

Hinkley said Port would be happy with giving up a first round pick for Dixon.

Thats a few years of giving away your first rounder. Not a great move in my opinion.

It would be, IMO, a bad move if we were in need of a full list turn over, but we are far from it.

Westhoff 30 White 29 Boak, Ryder, Gray, Krakouer 27, Ebert, Hartlett, Trengove Broadbent 26, Pittard Jonas 24 Polec S.Gray Young 23, Wingard Hombsch Ah Chee 22, Wines Clurey Colquhoun 21, Amon 20.....

Not many of these need turning over next year, or even the year after, I think we made the right move getting Ryder last year and with a first round given up for Dixon, perhaps 2 second rounders with one coming in from Fremantle for Schulz, we're ok with our squad profile I think. Last year we took all talls in a long term view, this years picks will be smalls / mids and again next year I expect.

[marbles]

although im a carlton supporter, its little bit unfair on brisbane who will lose the 2nd best kid in australia, just because kruezer is not happy at carlton

carltons losing their first pick player from years ago, who theyve developed & supported for years sure

but they made the choice on that player years ago,

im sure melbourne would quite happily see jack watts leave, theyd be insisting on it if they can get the latest best kid in the country instead

meanwhile, brisbane who legitimately need the 2nd best kid, loses because carlton made a poor decision years ago in choosing kruezer

every club in the comp should get their deserving pick, and then carlton gets a free pick after all the clubs get their first player at the draft, ie: pick 19

[Lightning McQueen]

although im a carlton supporter, its little bit unfair on brisbane who will lose the 2nd best kid in australia, just because kruezer is not happy at carlton

carltons losing their first pick player from years ago, who theyve developed & supported for years sure

but they made the choice on that player years ago,

im sure melbourne would quite happily see jack watts leave, theyd be insisting on it if they can get the latest best kid in the country instead

meanwhile, brisbane who legitimately need the 2nd best kid, loses because carlton made a poor decision years ago in choosing kruezer

every club in the comp should get their deserving pick, and then carlton gets a free pick after all the clubs get their first player at the draft, ie: pick 19

I reckon Melbourne would be happy to get a large bag of Skittles for Watts.