by holden78 » Tue Sep 01, 2015 1:42 pm
by Booney » Tue Sep 01, 2015 1:53 pm
holden78 wrote:Exactly why the Cancers shouldn't get their practice games in our finals / major round ever...... OBVIOUS really
by Jim05 » Tue Sep 01, 2015 2:03 pm
bennymacca wrote:So in lieu of kicking the teams out, what is the solution to this problem? Moving the SANFL/WAFL seasons so that the finals coincide, or occur a week later than the AFL finals like it used to in the SANFL?
by Mr Beefy » Tue Sep 01, 2015 2:07 pm
wild dog wrote:LPH wrote:Press Release from the WAFL:
It is fantastic for WA Football that both Fremantle and West Coast are in the top two places on the AFL ladder and that their WAFL Partnering Clubs, Peel Thunder and East Perth, have also qualified for the WAFL Finals. It is an important component of the Partnering Model that success can be shared among all four clubs.
.......
It is also important to note that any challenges identified throughout the year, including the scenario referred to above, will be thoroughly assessed at the conclusion of the season in line with the WAFC’s commitment to an annual review of the Partnering Model.
No doubt a similar response would be heard here should this occur to the PAPs or Cows...
Interesting use of the word "scenario" which normally would mean a possible outcome or postulation. This is a current situation, not scenario.
So if Peel get smashed and go no further, the WAFC look at each other and shrug their shoulders and do their review, is there any recognition that the year was totally compromised due to an unforseen scenario.
In actual fact, both the SANFL and the WAFL "hope" that the multiple scenarios where either AFL team can totally compromise the finals series does not eventuate. There is no planning, just hope or dumb luck that it works out, and manage the PR as best they can if the failure eventuates. If the AFL reserves teams do tank, well that's a year down the drain, the premiership is compromised but no one will remember or care in a year or 2.
by The analyst » Tue Sep 01, 2015 6:07 pm
bennymacca wrote:So in lieu of kicking the teams out, what is the solution to this problem? Moving the SANFL/WAFL seasons so that the finals coincide, or occur a week later than the AFL finals like it used to in the SANFL?
by mighty_tiger_79 » Tue Sep 01, 2015 7:15 pm
by daysofourlives » Tue Sep 01, 2015 7:26 pm
by wild dog » Tue Sep 01, 2015 10:21 pm
The analyst wrote:bennymacca wrote:So in lieu of kicking the teams out, what is the solution to this problem? Moving the SANFL/WAFL seasons so that the finals coincide, or occur a week later than the AFL finals like it used to in the SANFL?
The problem is multi faceted.
First problem - AFL reserves teams at full strength are too strong for the semi professional SANFL/WAFL teams.
Second problem - When the AFL sides do make the finals their SANFL/WAFL sides are compromised depending on the AFL teams agenda.
First Solution - Cap the number of AFL listed players taking the field at any one time to 14. (AFL sides will complain that players are potentially missing out each week, well bad luck.)..most AFL clubs rest players during the year anyway. With 7 top up players their strength will be more comparable to the SANFL/WAFL clubs. (Stats proved that this season)
Second Solution - History is full of teams resting players before finals. SANFL clubs who have cemented top position on ladder a couple of games out from the end of the minor round have been doing this since the beginning time. So is that compromising the competition ??? Wouldn't have thought so. If the AFL teams want to make their SANFL/WAFL teams the sacrificial lamb for their AFL team so be it. They're loss. Someone else's gain.
by Spargo » Tue Sep 01, 2015 10:36 pm
wild dog wrote:The analyst wrote:bennymacca wrote:So in lieu of kicking the teams out, what is the solution to this problem? Moving the SANFL/WAFL seasons so that the finals coincide, or occur a week later than the AFL finals like it used to in the SANFL?
The problem is multi faceted.
First problem - AFL reserves teams at full strength are too strong for the semi professional SANFL/WAFL teams.
Second problem - When the AFL sides do make the finals their SANFL/WAFL sides are compromised depending on the AFL teams agenda.
First Solution - Cap the number of AFL listed players taking the field at any one time to 14. (AFL sides will complain that players are potentially missing out each week, well bad luck.)..most AFL clubs rest players during the year anyway. With 7 top up players their strength will be more comparable to the SANFL/WAFL clubs. (Stats proved that this season)
Second Solution - History is full of teams resting players before finals. SANFL clubs who have cemented top position on ladder a couple of games out from the end of the minor round have been doing this since the beginning time. So is that compromising the competition ??? Wouldn't have thought so. If the AFL teams want to make their SANFL/WAFL teams the sacrificial lamb for their AFL team so be it. They're loss. Someone else's gain.
I'm not sure you really understand the overall issue when you present your second solution.
by saintal » Tue Sep 01, 2015 11:10 pm
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:Oh my
I briefly heard 5AA this arvo with Rowey and Bicks
Rowey just doesn't understand that the Crows and Port are actually RESERVES teams
had to switch stations
even the mrs understands that they are reserve teams
by Magellan » Tue Sep 01, 2015 11:36 pm
by johntheclaret » Wed Sep 02, 2015 6:20 am
human_torpedo wrote:Dogwatcher wrote:http://www.theroar.com.au/2015/09/01/debate-fremantle-resting-players-nonsense/comment-page-5/#comment-4273387
An interesting take on it in this article:
"There has been some talk about Peel Thunder, Fremantle’s connector club in the WAFL, and how they’re going to be playing their first final this weekend, but will now have almost no chance to win it.
Well, for supporters of Peel, and the players and officials involved….we don’t get everything we want in this world, and sometimes life just isn’t fair. Tough."
He's right, of course. Doesn't mean it's right.
Its an interesting read. Peel have been a basket case in the WAFL for years and are basically only competitive because of the now link with Fremantle.. Its not a great look for the comp no doubt, but its happening, and could well happen here.. The logistical nightmare being that the seasons don't line up.. As in, had it been the last round of the WAFL and not a final then its still less than ideal, but not as big of an issue
by LPH » Wed Sep 02, 2015 9:02 am
The analyst wrote: ...
Second Solution - History is full of teams resting players before finals. SANFL clubs who have cemented top position on ladder a couple of games out from the end of the minor round have been doing this since the beginning time. So is that compromising the competition ??? Wouldn't have thought so. If the AFL teams want to make their SANFL/WAFL teams the sacrificial lamb for their AFL team so be it. They're loss. Someone else's gain.
by Booney » Wed Sep 02, 2015 9:08 am
by Magellan » Wed Sep 02, 2015 9:43 am
“People are time poor and some of them just do not have the time to spend a day at Adelaide Oval for the AFL and then also attend an SANFL match,’’ she said.
Dewing said partnering with the AFL clubs, particularly Adelaide, to draw better crowds to Crows reserves games needed to be a priority in 2016.
She said using high-profile Crows players to promote local games and having them available for autograph signings and activities would boost family attendance.
by Pseudo » Wed Sep 02, 2015 9:52 am
Booney wrote:Seems it's Adelaide Oval to blame....
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl ... 7507700333
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Figures released exclusively to The Advertiser show minor round attendance at SANFL matches was down by an alarming 13 per cent in 2015, and clubs dispute the theory that supporter backlash against the entry of AFL reserves teams is the cause.
by tipper » Wed Sep 02, 2015 9:56 am
Booney wrote:
Crowds in 2014 were down 6.3 per cent on 2013.
by JK » Wed Sep 02, 2015 9:58 am
Pseudo wrote:I wonder if any of the idiots quoted in the article truly believes what they are saying, and how many are just aping what they've been told to believe?
by stan » Wed Sep 02, 2015 10:11 am
by shoe boy » Wed Sep 02, 2015 10:13 am
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