HFL Division 1 (Central)

[Legs Man]

Well I got 3 out of 5 with my tips, Never write of Uraidla there a high quality side bit surprising that it was so low scoring though. Hats of to echunga good win and there definitely the team to beat!
Good game at Onkaparinga, Onkas looked the good's at 3 quarter time but an 8 goal to 0 final term gave the bankers the win in a high scoring game.
Also was great to see numerous kids on both teams make their debut stepping up from 17s last year and play well. Both teams had some key players out but there was good signs for both teams, the added class of Motlop and De visser were the difference
On another note was good to see TV have a win in the A's with their 6 locals, whilst their Juniors either forfeited, lost by 25 goals and lost by 38 goals plus with no under 9s or 11s. They will be fine when the money runs out.

It really was 2 games in one at Echunga - particularly once the Edmonds brothers went off by half time. Lobey use the ball well when in possession and Echunga look very quick. Both sides should be around the mark.

You are surely joking when you say TV only have 6 locals playing!
Why is this club being propped up so much when they seem to offer the competition very little?
The solution should have been that they combined with Sedan and played Div 2 while Nairne came into Div 1.
And what's this rubbish with Div 2 having a bye for the Country championships thus stuffing up the draw.
The HFL and clubs should have stood up to the CFL on this one and gained an exemption for our lower tiers.
Why bludgeon our comp for a championship that means nothing and something clubs won't support due to the risk of injury.

[batmanbegins]

Well I got 3 out of 5 with my tips, Never write of Uraidla there a high quality side bit surprising that it was so low scoring though. Hats of to echunga good win and there definitely the team to beat!
Good game at Onkaparinga, Onkas looked the good's at 3 quarter time but an 8 goal to 0 final term gave the bankers the win in a high scoring game.
Also was great to see numerous kids on both teams make their debut stepping up from 17s last year and play well. Both teams had some key players out but there was good signs for both teams, the added class of Motlop and De visser were the difference
On another note was good to see TV have a win in the A's with their 6 locals, whilst their Juniors either forfeited, lost by 25 goals and lost by 38 goals plus with no under 9s or 11s. They will be fine when the money runs out.

It really was 2 games in one at Echunga - particularly once the Edmonds brothers went off by half time. Lobey use the ball well when in possession and Echunga look very quick. Both sides should be around the mark.

You are surely joking when you say TV only have 6 locals playing!
Why is this club being propped up so much when they seem to offer the competition very little?
The solution should have been that they combined with Sedan and played Div 2 while Nairne came into Div 1.
And what's this rubbish with Div 2 having a bye for the Country championships thus stuffing up the draw.
The HFL and clubs should have stood up to the CFL on this one and gained an exemption for our lower tiers.
Why bludgeon our comp for a championship that means nothing and something clubs won't support due to the risk of injury.

Looking through their squad the locals would be cooper, fawcett, mariner, higgins, press, hill and waterman. So they have 7 locals but they have had a few recruits be there for a few years now in hunter, ellis and eichner. I still find it hard to believe bridgy had to go down when you have a team like TV who dont even have a 13s team which goes against the rules and only won enough games last year to avoid relegation because they got extra points which allowed them to get O'sullivan.

[Legs Man]

Well I got 3 out of 5 with my tips, Never write of Uraidla there a high quality side bit surprising that it was so low scoring though. Hats of to echunga good win and there definitely the team to beat!
Good game at Onkaparinga, Onkas looked the good's at 3 quarter time but an 8 goal to 0 final term gave the bankers the win in a high scoring game.
Also was great to see numerous kids on both teams make their debut stepping up from 17s last year and play well. Both teams had some key players out but there was good signs for both teams, the added class of Motlop and De visser were the difference
On another note was good to see TV have a win in the A's with their 6 locals, whilst their Juniors either forfeited, lost by 25 goals and lost by 38 goals plus with no under 9s or 11s. They will be fine when the money runs out.

It really was 2 games in one at Echunga - particularly once the Edmonds brothers went off by half time. Lobey use the ball well when in possession and Echunga look very quick. Both sides should be around the mark.

You are surely joking when you say TV only have 6 locals playing!
Why is this club being propped up so much when they seem to offer the competition very little?
The solution should have been that they combined with Sedan and played Div 2 while Nairne came into Div 1.
And what's this rubbish with Div 2 having a bye for the Country championships thus stuffing up the draw.
The HFL and clubs should have stood up to the CFL on this one and gained an exemption for our lower tiers.
Why bludgeon our comp for a championship that means nothing and something clubs won't support due to the risk of injury.

Looking through their squad the locals would be cooper, fawcett, mariner, higgins, press, hill and waterman. So they have 7 locals but they have had a few recruits be there for a few years now in hunter, ellis and eichner. I still find it hard to believe bridgy had to go down when you have a team like TV who dont even have a 13s team which goes against the rules and only won enough games last year to avoid relegation because they got extra points which allowed them to get O'sullivan.

I was under the impression - and please correct me if I am wrong - that to play Div 1 you MUST field an under 13 side.
If you don't field this side my belief was that you couldn't play in the higher comp - can anyone shed some light on this please?
I know that Echunga was threatened by the HFL with all sorts of ramifications if we failed to have all sides incl fines and forfeiting of senior match points.
Is this still the case or has the leagues position on this area changed for this season?

[cracka]

No. To play in div 1 its never been compulsory to have U13's. Just every club has fielded them in the past.

[Elmer J Thudpucker]

On another note was good to see TV have a win in the A's with their 6 locals, whilst their Juniors either forfeited, lost by 25 goals and lost by 38 goals plus with no under 9s or 11s. They will be fine when the money runs out.

You are surely joking when you say TV only have 6 locals playing!
Why is this club being propped up so much when they seem to offer the competition very little?

I wonder how the families of TV juniors feel with the direction their club is taking.

Their U13s forfeited, their U15s lost by 149 points (which is hard to do in 4 x 15 minute quarters with no time on added between goals), and their U17s lost by 232 points (again, only 4 x 20 min quarters with no time-on).

It must be absolutely demoralising for these young lads to be competing in Div 1 when they are a really a Div 2 club. Why would you continue to rock up and go through this every weekend. It's all about stroking the selfish ego of their financial backer, and the coveting of senior success at any cost.

[Legs Man]

No. To play in div 1 its never been compulsory to have U13's. Just every club has fielded them in the past.

Thanks Cracka - I thought it was compulsory in Div 1.
I know 13's don't count in club shield but thought you had to field all junior sides.
If TV forfeit any of their other juniors will they lose senior points or have other sanctions imposed?
Is it still possible they may be relegated also if they forfeit more than once?
Did they have to present names and numbers for juniors prior the season commencing?

Their priorities certainly seem misguided which you can see with the facilities they present to the comp and the way they prioritise their spend.
It doesn't do anything positive for our league.

[Yellow & Black]

Don't really like defending TV but I'd expect Hahndorfs Juniors to flog most teams, except Blackwood perhaps. My Tigers aren't a powerhouse but defeated Echungas Juniors comfortably across all grades. However I reckon the boys will likely get belted by the Maggies this weekend. There's a massive gap between the top couple sides in each Junior grade and the rest. I think we'll have to get used to seeing one sided games.

Well done to Echunga in the A Grade, very classy side who'll be the team to beat, only query is didn't look to have much in terms of depth. Would be interested in any feedback on how TV and Ironbank looked in the A's, 2 star studded teams!

[cracka]

No. To play in div 1 its never been compulsory to have U13's. Just every club has fielded them in the past.

Thanks Cracka - I thought it was compulsory in Div 1.
I know 13's don't count in club shield but thought you had to field all junior sides.
If TV forfeit any of their other juniors will they lose senior points or have other sanctions imposed?
Is it still possible they may be relegated also if they forfeit more than once?
Did they have to present names and numbers for juniors prior the season commencing?

Their priorities certainly seem misguided which you can see with the facilities they present to the comp and the way they prioritise their spend.
It doesn't do anything positive for our league.

Thanks Cracka - I thought it was compulsory in Div 1. Yeah so did I until last year
I know 13's don't count in club shield but thought you had to field all junior sides. Cant remember who it was (think it was either Brian Parker or Kym Pocock) that informed us at a meeting last year that it wasn't compulsory to field U13's.
If TV forfeit any of their other juniors will they lose senior points or have other sanctions imposed? Pretty sure that would mean demotion
Is it still possible they may be relegated also if they forfeit more than once? Not if its U13's
Did they have to present names and numbers for juniors prior the season commencing? Doubt it

[batmanbegins]

Don't really like defending TV but I'd expect Hahndorfs Juniors to flog most teams, except Blackwood perhaps. My Tigers aren't a powerhouse but defeated Echungas Juniors comfortably across all grades. However I reckon the boys will likely get belted by the Maggies this weekend. There's a massive gap between the top couple sides in each Junior grade and the rest. I think we'll have to get used to seeing one sided games.

Well done to Echunga in the A Grade, very classy side who'll be the team to beat, only query is didn't look to have much in terms of depth. Would be interested in any feedback on how TV and Ironbank looked in the A's, 2 star studded teams!

Ironbank looked pretty good but the extra class of de visser and Motlop was the key, hitchcock got better as the game went on also. It was the youngest team we have fielded in years, with 7 blokes under 21 and 15 or 16 under 25 which was really exciting to see some of our youngsters step and play well. Jars has implemented a good game plan that means we can actually cope with having a few players out where as before he came we would have been flogged. I think we had 15 locals playing which is the most we would of had in a while plus we have added some real quality imports but its going to be a real tight competition this year so will be interesting.
TV look to have a high quality side with a lot of good players and I think should be up there, I mean they have o'sullivan, Boras, ellis and montgomery that have all played SANFL and pretty well at that. Plus they added hanna and watchel so it's hard to see them not being of high quality.

[Spiderman]

Looking at results from the weekend, lobethal woth average junior sides were able to comfortably defeat all echungas teams other then a grade. Is to early to ask the question whether echunga have actually improved these other grades or will the a grade carry the club yet again? Sounds like torrens valley are heading the same way,. Winning a grade and losing everything else.....

[Windbag]

Hey Yellow and Black thanks for the vote of confidence for our young fellas, I hope they ignore the crap coming from your way and get on with the business believing in their ability to compete and win. Stick to the horses, your probably better informed in that area!

[backdoor]

Looking at results from the weekend, lobethal woth average junior sides were able to comfortably defeat all echungas teams other then a grade. Is to early to ask the question whether echunga have actually improved these other grades or will the a grade carry the club yet again? Sounds like torrens valley are heading the same way,. Winning a grade and losing everything else.....

What trouble will Torrens Valley be in after the weekends games? Forfeit the mini colts (and this could be weekly) and from what I'm hearing had less than 10 actual senior colts players with the rest being made up from their junior colts. An absolute joke that Bridgewater was relegated based on what happened yesterday and TV should accept they are not able to fill the required teams in Division 1. I also thought Sedan Cambrai were helping them out with junior numbers so what happen there?

[Legs Man]

Looking at results from the weekend, lobethal woth average junior sides were able to comfortably defeat all echungas teams other then a grade. Is to early to ask the question whether echunga have actually improved these other grades or will the a grade carry the club yet again? Sounds like torrens valley are heading the same way,. Winning a grade and losing everything else.....

Through a good junior recruitment drive over summer Echunga fielded all sides with juniors in their correct age brackets.
Lobey had a pretty good B grade from what I saw so only time will tell as to how much improvement is there.

Apart from the powerhouse junior clubs most sides struggle for numbers.
As a club we genuinely have something to offer Div 1 across all grades and continue to improve our facilities and match day offering.
It is about attracting more people to our club and footy which is the ultimate result sought - along with on field success.
Definitely noticeable when you travel to other clubs as to how they are trying to ensure long term viability - and even more noticeable the ones that aren't.

[running defender]

At the start of the year we had 8 under 15s now we have a full side. 90% of these kids have just turned 13 or 14 and and will have 2 or more years in this grade, as with our s/colts we have 26 and 20 of them all have 1 or 2 yrs left. It was great to see how happy these kids were because they had played a full game of footy , Not sitting on the fence in a rotation system, not running water for their mates,or just giving up and going to play soccer. Speaking to a couple of their mums they were sick of spening 100's of dollars each year just to see their kids not getting a game, we might not be the best but we provide an opportunity. As for the results not many surprises maybe the Uraidla, Mt Barker game i thought the roos with their recruits and players back from injury but just shows you can't write of quality.

[youngpace]

Well done to Echunga in the A Grade, very classy side who'll be the team to beat, only query is didn't look to have much in terms of depth. Would be interested in any feedback on how TV and Ironbank looked in the A's, 2 star studded teams!

It would be interesting. Ironbank went down to the Dogs, in the closed B grade match of the round, by 57points. While TV lost by 91 points to Hahndorf. With both A grade results going the other way. Echunga's results being similar, perhaps depth is an issue for all three clubs? I was surprised that Barker's B grade went down by 70 points.

On the topic of measuring the Dee's improvement. Or B grade lost by 30 goal to the Tigers, first time around last year. This year halving the deficit to 15 goals. Agreed it is early, however that fairs well for improvement. D Henke (Centurion and Div 1 Snr Colts Mail Medalist) was best on this weekend and after sustaining a shoulder injury and missing the Fairy Tail GF win last year. No doubt he will be pushing to get back an A grade spot.

[Elmer J Thudpucker]

On the topic of measuring the Dee's improvement. Or B grade lost by 30 goal to the Tigers, first time around last year. This year halving the deficit to 15 goals. Agreed it is early, however that fairs well for improvement. D Henke (Centurion and Div 1 Snr Colts Mail Medalist) was best on this weekend and after sustaining a shoulder injury and missing the Fairy Tail GF win last year. No doubt he will be pushing to get back an A grade spot.

You could be accused of trying to make things look better than they really are here. You lost to Lobey by 97 points on Saturday, which is the exact same margin you lost to them by when you last played them in B grade in 2014.

Also, unless Sporting Pulse is incorrect, you fielded a B grade team with only 19 players ? surely not.

[youngpace]

On the topic of measuring the Dee's improvement. Or B grade lost by 30 goal to the Tigers, first time around last year. This year halving the deficit to 15 goals. Agreed it is early, however that fairs well for improvement. D Henke (Centurion and Div 1 Snr Colts Mail Medalist) was best on this weekend and after sustaining a shoulder injury and missing the Fairy Tail GF win last year. No doubt he will be pushing to get back an A grade spot.

You could be accused of trying to make things look better than they really are here. You lost to Lobey by 97 points on Saturday, which is the exact same margin you lost to them by when you last played them in B grade in 2014.

Also, unless Sporting Pulse is incorrect, you fielded a B grade team with only 19 players ? surely not.

Yes, I could be. I wasn't intending to gloss anything up, I personally believe that the Dee's have improved. Stats are fickle things, its all about which stats are shown and how they are presented. Following last years pattern then, the up coming margin will be halved, 48 points when next we meet. Hopefully down to 24 points in 2016

Not sure about the player numbers for the weekend (wasn't there), though sporting pulse shouldn't lie. So I imagine there was only 19. Depth is an issue remember. I'm sure it won't be a usual occurrence.

[Windbag]

"On the topic of measuring the Dee's improvement. Or B grade lost by 30 goal to the Tigers, first time around last year. This year halving the deficit to 15 goals. Agreed it is early, however that fairs well for improvement. D Henke (Centurion and Div 1 Snr Colts Mail Medalist) was best on this weekend and after sustaining a shoulder injury and missing the Fairy Tail GF win last year. No doubt he will be pushing to get back an A grade spot.[/quote]"

Lobethal would have won by 30 goals if it wasn't for Henke so when he rightly plays A grade God help your 2's. And of course the scores were; 15-17 to 1-4, if Loby kicked straight it would have been a sadder story, Echunga didn't trouble the goal kicking list in the first half, managed 2 points. So the moral of the story is pray the A grade don't get injuries......

[The Sorce]

Was a great weekend for football...... Seems to be pretty quiet on here about Mt Lofty who came up from relegation... and were the only ones NOT to win a single grade on Saturday???

[flanker]

Was a great weekend for football...... Seems to be pretty quiet on here about Mt Lofty who came up from relegation... and were the only ones NOT to win a single grade on Saturday???

Wouldn't read too much into that at this stage as Blackwood are traditionally a powerhouse in juniors (along with Hahndorf) and their B Grade were undefeated premiers last season. Expect the Lofty B Grade to be better once half a dozen A Graders who missed round 1 return and some players filter back down and the juniors will be better for the run against top opposition for the first time in over a year. A Grade game was a cracker, Lofty started full of run and could have had the Woods on the ropes had they kicked straighter. Blackwood eventually whittled the Devils down in the last quarter and kept them goal less. Dundovic had a field day with Mt Lofty lacking big defenders and Bricknell pretty much kept them in the game during the first three quarters - he is a gun. Devils will trouble a few teams, the question mark will be whether they have the killer punch to topple them - as they lacked when they were relegated.