Southern Football League

[The Lova]

Just heard a rumour that 6 players who pulled out of the SDFCA team have been told that if they play this week they will be suspended for 2 matches - anyone know who they are

**BREAKING NEWS**

Been busy the last couple minutes chasing up the hottest story of the day.. The facts are this:

The Bayly boys have been asked to work on the weekend hence they are not available for the District game, they notified the league last night and have since been told if they play this week they will not play the next 2 weekends (1 v Hackham and 1 v H.Valley)... How can the league possibly take over these guys lives by demanding they either play for the District side ahead of work or face a 2 week suspension... This ruling by the almighty league will force the two brothers not to play this week all because they are busy at work and need to complete a job... Now they will miss a game of footy (B&F votes, goals etc etc) not to mention payments (not that the Emu's pay a lot but still it needs to be a consideration).. This is Bullsh*t and i will be looking forward to hearing who the other 4 blokes are and from what clubs, i'm sure we will find out tomorrow on a posting... Other players who signalled there intentions a week or so ago that they couldn't play (some from the Emus) are cleared to play, no penalty... Where is the consistency...??

Any thoughts..??

How cute, them pulling out as a family!!
Same thing happened last year, they must of known the rules.
If they are working, how can they play for mv anyway??

Mole and Swooper, how many "Tradies" do you know that work a full saturday..?? They would work for 4-5 hours in the morning and rock up to footy about 1ish to play... If the "District" game was played locally i'm sure they would play, because it is in Port Pirie and involves the weekend it makes it impossible to play...

My argument is at this level how can playing association rule over your work commitments in relation to having a kick with your local club..??

Im with you mexican. Surely if the players could explain this (ie need to work from 9am-1pm on saturday) so they can still play for their club which is only a few minutes drive away. rather than play at port perie and miss that days work.
Surely the league could find out what they do for a living and see that they are telling the truth. this would be possible if the league delegates had half a brain between them. oh well we all know thats not the case.

Im keen to know who the other playres are.

[Swooper16]

Mole and Swooper, how many "Tradies" do you know that work a full saturday..?? They would work for 4-5 hours in the morning and rock up to footy about 1ish to play... If the "District" game was played locally i'm sure they would play, because it is in Port Pirie and involves the weekend it makes it impossible to play...

My argument is at this level how can playing association rule over your work commitments in relation to having a kick with your local club..??[/quote]
Im with you mexican. Surely if the players could explain this (ie need to work from 9am-1pm on saturday) so they can still play for their club which is only a few minutes drive away. rather than play at port perie and miss that days work.
Surely the league could find out what they do for a living and see that they are telling the truth. this would be possible if the league delegates had half a brain between them. oh well we all know thats not the case.

Im keen to know who the other playres are.[/quote]

What if 10-15 players use this excuse - do you really think the league has the resources to investigate each case and how long would it take to make a decision (my guess would be well past the actual assoc weekend and probly closer to finals) and what would the penalty be if a player was found to be lying. Just too much effort i reckon. If your picked and cant play for whatever reason - cop it on the chin miss that club game and resume the following week.

Probly the league needs to talk to all clubs and see if this is really worth it or whether to scrap the SFL players from playing in this district carnival. In fairness to the leagues it would be hard to get a district side together if players were allowed to pull out at the last minute.

[The Lova]

Mole and Swooper, how many "Tradies" do you know that work a full saturday..?? They would work for 4-5 hours in the morning and rock up to footy about 1ish to play... If the "District" game was played locally i'm sure they would play, because it is in Port Pirie and involves the weekend it makes it impossible to play...

My argument is at this level how can playing association rule over your work commitments in relation to having a kick with your local club..??

Im with you mexican. Surely if the players could explain this (ie need to work from 9am-1pm on saturday) so they can still play for their club which is only a few minutes drive away. rather than play at port perie and miss that days work.
Surely the league could find out what they do for a living and see that they are telling the truth. this would be possible if the league delegates had half a brain between them. oh well we all know thats not the case.

Im keen to know who the other playres are.[/quote]

What if 10-15 players use this excuse - do you really think the league has the resources to investigate each case and how long would it take to make a decision (my guess would be well past the actual assoc weekend and probly closer to finals) and what would the penalty be if a player was found to be lying. Just too much effort i reckon. If your picked and cant play for whatever reason - cop it on the chin miss that club game and resume the following week.

Probly the league needs to talk to all clubs and see if this is really worth it or whether to scrap the SFL players from playing in this district carnival. In fairness to the leagues it would be hard to get a district side together if players were allowed to pull out at the last minute.[/quote]

The whole thing is a joke and no wonder why blokes dont want to play! there is no "pride" in playing for the SD which is shown by the reluctancy to play. Blokes would rather play for their club.....so whats the point. After the weekend every league/whatever says "oh we didnt have our full side"anyway. Its the Biggest waste of time. It should be the sort of thing that guys are honered to play....not the thing that guys are trying to avoid. why would someone miss a club game to play and possibly miss out on B&F votes, mail medal votes or goals. imagine playing for SD and missing the mail medal by 1 vote. I know which one I would rather.
If the SFL is stupid enough to have players participate in the carnival and not have a bye then they must face the fact that some players wont want to play.

[Swooper16]

Perhaps the SFL could send the 2002 "greatest SFL team of the last century"

They should have no problems hey dogs?

[The Lova]

Perhaps the SFL could send the 2002 "greatest SFL team of the last century"

They should have no problems hey dogs?

Thats a good idea swooper. They would have to replace them 2 years later though, those teams of the century only have a short lifespan!!!!

[Waterboy]

What if 10-15 players use this excuse - do you really think the league has the resources to investigate each case and how long would it take to make a decision (my guess would be well past the actual assoc weekend and probly closer to finals) and what would the penalty be if a player was found to be lying. Just too much effort i reckon. If your picked and cant play for whatever reason - cop it on the chin miss that club game and resume the following week.

Probly the league needs to talk to all clubs and see if this is really worth it or whether to scrap the SFL players from playing in this district carnival. In fairness to the leagues it would be hard to get a district side together if players were allowed to pull out at the last minute.

I think that's the problem right there Swooper, the last minute pullouts. The comment was made last night that Great Southern sent in a list of players, and all those players are at training and available.

SFL sends in a list and then players start not showing up at training and are unavailable. McKenzie had work commitments so couldn't make training, Vick is on holidays. Both let someone know and are available for the weekend and are chosen.
Work makes it hard though, if you've made a deal with your boss to work Saturday morning or you're self employed a full weekend away isn't going to happen.

I'm not so sure about scrapping the SFL involvement in the carnival though. There are players who want to play at that higher level, and there are clubs who are happy for their players to play there. Brighton allowing 3 players to go away when they've got what could be a crucial match is a big call. Cove allowing 2 to go after they lost their first game of the season in the corresponding match last year shows committment to the district carnival. The coaching staff that they only want players there who are committed to it. Then you come to the problem of working out who withdrew because they didn't want to play and who withdrew because their club pur pressure on them.

Maybe a bye is the answer, a lot of players from other leagues don't make themselves available as they consider a bye as a weekend off, but those who do want to play can do so. They might still face club pressure as clubs don't want to see players injured in non-club matches though.

[Hills]

If your fully fit and have no other commitments on a saturday why wouldnt you play?

What happened to the honour of playing in a game of association/districts. These players that are selected to play should be stoked and if it is obvious they dont wont to play because of the chance of winning leading goal kicker or a mail medal, i think they shoud be suspended for 2 games or whatever it is.

Just my opinion.

[The Lova]

If your fully fit and have no other commitments on a saturday why wouldnt you play?

What happened to the honour of playing in a game of association/districts. These players that are selected to play should be stoked and if it is obvious they dont wont to play because of the chance of winning leading goal kicker or a mail medal, i think they shoud be suspended for 2 games or whatever it is.

Just my opinion.

because no one gives a stuff. it loses all it honour etc. I would rather win a mail medal than represent a half assed SD side with 10 of the better players missing. Thats my opinion.

[oxa]

I am a tradie of course you are gonna work, good money. Then go play footy. If you dont want to play in SD team far enough, give the chance to someone who does! each to there own really.

[The Lova]

If your fully fit and have no other commitments on a saturday why wouldnt you play?

What happened to the honour of playing in a game of association/districts. These players that are selected to play should be stoked and if it is obvious they dont wont to play because of the chance of winning leading goal kicker or a mail medal, i think they shoud be suspended for 2 games or whatever it is.

Just my opinion.

because no one gives a stuff. it loses all it honour etc. I would rather win a mail medal than represent a half assed SD side with 10 of the better players missing. Thats my opinion.

another way to look at it from a SFL supporter point of view is ask people who played in last years SD team and who won last years mail medal???? ask that question for the last few years. I know which one people remember.

[Swooper16]

If your fully fit and have no other commitments on a saturday why wouldnt you play?

What happened to the honour of playing in a game of association/districts. These players that are selected to play should be stoked and if it is obvious they dont wont to play because of the chance of winning leading goal kicker or a mail medal, i think they shoud be suspended for 2 games or whatever it is.

Just my opinion.

because no one gives a stuff. it loses all it honour etc. I would rather win a mail medal than represent a half assed SD side with 10 of the better players missing. Thats my opinion.

another way to look at it from a SFL supporter point of view is ask people who played in last years SD team and who won last years mail medal???? ask that question for the last few years. I know which one people remember.

Southern Districts won on a countback didnt they?

[Hotdogs]

Perhaps the SFL could send the 2002 "greatest SFL team of the last century"

They should have no problems hey dogs?

Thats a good idea swooper. They would have to replace them 2 years later though, those teams of the century only have a short lifespan!!!!

I don't believe you get paid for those games.......No Pay the Dapper Dog No Play....

[Waterboy]

If your fully fit and have no other commitments on a saturday why wouldnt you play?

What happened to the honour of playing in a game of association/districts. These players that are selected to play should be stoked and if it is obvious they dont wont to play because of the chance of winning leading goal kicker or a mail medal, i think they shoud be suspended for 2 games or whatever it is.

Just my opinion.

because no one gives a stuff. it loses all it honour etc. I would rather win a mail medal than represent a half assed SD side with 10 of the better players missing. Thats my opinion.

another way to look at it from a SFL supporter point of view is ask people who played in last years SD team and who won last years mail medal???? ask that question for the last few years. I know which one people remember.

Vick and Bachmann are both back with Southern Districts.

[Zelezny Chucks]

bachmann out will crush Christies I don't think it will be as big a margin as last year against MVale but it could be hefty if the conditions are right

[Tight_Lines]

2 Reavills are out this week because they apparently agreed to play then pulled out.

Last year Josh Vick missed Porties match for SD then the following week against Flaggies dominated the first quarter and we lead 10 goals to zip. Porter took him off for the rest of the game so he could rest and not risk injury. I remember clearly Barry Ramsay having a joke at Ports after the match "If he loses the Mail Medal by a vote its on you." How ironic 1 Vote when he no doubt would had polled votes.

[sportsfan]

2 Reavills are out this week because they apparently agreed to play then pulled out.

Last year Josh Vick missed Porties match for SD then the following week against Flaggies dominated the first quarter and we lead 10 goals to zip. Porter took him off for the rest of the game so he could rest and not risk injury. I remember clearly Barry Ramsay having a joke at Ports after the match "If he loses the Mail Medal by a vote its on you." How ironic 1 Vote when he no doubt would had polled votes.

Good call tight lines, but the point is, the whole concept almost conspires against any teams with good players who want to play in the district side. Although i think the work thing is a little lame, i am also a tradie, i'm sure knowing most tradies, including bosses love their footy and wouldn't mind a bloke having one weekend off to play at a higher level. The clear cut solution is to have a bye for all teams to make it fair, king, and simper massive outs for brighton in a game that could shape either teams season.

[Injured Phantom]

The team as released by the SANFL yesterday reads as follows from the SFL (15 players): J.Vick, M.Reavill, J.Sitters, A.Simper, A.Bachmann, S.Bradshaw, J.McEntee, J.Ramsey, S.McKenzie, B.King, J.Degenhardt, B.Bayly, D.Reavill, I.Bayly, I.Brown

On a side note, interesting to read the side from Southern Districts only has one player from the Hills in it. While there are seven each from Great Southern & River Murray.

For anyone not sure, the team is coached by Tony Fielke

[footy nut]

I agree with you sports fan - why should the three players from Brighton have to choose between playing rep football and a must win game for there own club - there was no reason why there couldnt have been a bye this week seem as we started a week later than every league except the Hills who have made there intention of what SDFCA means to them with only one player nominated.
SFL should get on board with the whole thing and have a bye or not get involved at all.
Yes tight lines last year this weekend did cost Josh Vick the Mail Medal - will common sense prevail next year???????

[The Mexican]

The league has now done a backflip on it's previous tough stance yesterday about threatening to suspend players if they played this week instead of representing the district side. I'm led to believe the pressure came from Sitters who pleaded his case personally with the league and sited taking on a new job which subsequently rostered him to work this saturday, the league have since stated that if the player(s) in question can produce a "requirement to work certificate" from their employer then the 2 match ban will be revoked. Sitters will play for Reynella and Bayly will play for the Emu's. My information also suggests that Bradshaw pulled out before wednesday's training which was accepted by the league, not sure of his exact circumstances though..

[The Lova]

I agree with you sports fan - why should the three players from Brighton have to choose between playing rep football and a must win game for there own club - there was no reason why there couldnt have been a bye this week seem as we started a week later than every league except the Hills who have made there intention of what SDFCA means to them with only one player nominated.
SFL should get on board with the whole thing and have a bye or not get involved at all.
Yes tight lines last year this weekend did cost Josh Vick the Mail Medal - will common sense prevail next year???????

If what you say is true mexican then it is a league first. The SFL has actually used common sense to fix a problem.
I always thought the SFL has a strict rule on dealing with problems in the league dont they???? ignore it until it either goes away or totally stuffs up everything.

Funny actually I mentioned this in my earlier post and was shot down by swooper. Looks like the SFL read "the lova's" post and took it on board. better luck next time swooper.