by lovetotalkfooty » Tue Sep 23, 2014 11:13 am
by morell » Tue Sep 23, 2014 11:16 am
by gadj1976 » Tue Sep 23, 2014 11:18 am
lovetotalkfooty wrote:Been hearing some amazing figures being bandied around for coaches in the SAAFL. Got me thinking about what a coach is worth. Lets not make this a I heard "X" gets paid $10000 a year and "Y" gets $7000 a year. More interested in what people think coaches should be paid in each division.
Heres my thoughts.
Div 1 - What ever you can get and the club can afford. Would think most coaches get $6K - $8K range or $333.33 a game to $444.44 ( all based on 18 games no finals). These guys are either proven or played a pretty high level and should have a sound knowledge of the game.
Div 2-3 - I think you would pay around the $4K to $5K range. Again $222.22 to $277.77 a game. You can take a punt on a few untried coaches at this level. Most coaches would have played SAAFL before and have a reasonable understanding of the game.
Div 4-5 - Should not be paying over $3K to the coach. $166.66 per game. Most made up of guys who played SAAFL at either the club they are coaching or a reasonable level. Get by a lot on reputation but are mostly untried when it comes to the coaching game. A lot of ex captains of clubs end up coaching at this level.
Div 6-7 - Should be paying $2K max. $111.11 a game. A lot of guys are doing it for the love of the game or the club at this level and deserve to be rewarded in some way. At this level you need someone who can recruit and get guys to your club. Not a lot of clubs in this grade have promising junior program ( I said not a lot but there are a few).
Overall these coaches probably spend 10 hours a week and should be rewarded but when you hear of Div 5 and 6 clubs being asked up to $10000 a year to coach them it makes you laugh.
Just my thoughts.
by jo172 » Tue Sep 23, 2014 11:19 am
by Cohiba » Tue Sep 23, 2014 11:36 am
lovetotalkfooty wrote:Been hearing some amazing figures being bandied around for coaches in the SAAFL. Got me thinking about what a coach is worth. Lets not make this a I heard "X" gets paid $10000 a year and "Y" gets $7000 a year. More interested in what people think coaches should be paid in each division.
Heres my thoughts.
Div 1 - What ever you can get and the club can afford. Would think most coaches get $6K - $8K range or $333.33 a game to $444.44 ( all based on 18 games no finals). These guys are either proven or played a pretty high level and should have a sound knowledge of the game.
Div 2-3 - I think you would pay around the $4K to $5K range. Again $222.22 to $277.77 a game. You can take a punt on a few untried coaches at this level. Most coaches would have played SAAFL before and have a reasonable understanding of the game.
Div 4-5 - Should not be paying over $3K to the coach. $166.66 per game. Most made up of guys who played SAAFL at either the club they are coaching or a reasonable level. Get by a lot on reputation but are mostly untried when it comes to the coaching game. A lot of ex captains of clubs end up coaching at this level.
Div 6-7 - Should be paying $2K max. $111.11 a game. A lot of guys are doing it for the love of the game or the club at this level and deserve to be rewarded in some way. At this level you need someone who can recruit and get guys to your club. Not a lot of clubs in this grade have promising junior program ( I said not a lot but there are a few).
Overall these coaches probably spend 10 hours a week and should be rewarded but when you hear of Div 5 and 6 clubs being asked up to $10000 a year to coach them it makes you laugh.
Just my thoughts.
by BurraBoys » Tue Sep 23, 2014 12:45 pm
by twobob » Tue Sep 23, 2014 12:58 pm
by Footy Chick » Tue Sep 23, 2014 1:09 pm
morell wrote:I have heard rumours a newly hired D5 coach is on excess of $16k/annum.
Absolutely laughable.
LTTF wrote:Lets not make this a I heard "X" gets paid $10000 a year and "Y" gets $7000 a year. More interested in what people think coaches should be paid in each division
Gatt_Weasel wrote:if they (Walkerville) dont win the flag ill run around the block of my street naked :) you can grab a chair and enjoy the view
by twobob » Tue Sep 23, 2014 1:14 pm
by Footy Chick » Tue Sep 23, 2014 1:15 pm
twobob wrote:Morell do you honestly believe that an A5 club is financial enough to be able to afford in excess of $16k for a coach. It sounds like late night front bar talk to me. If you believe that please come down to my car yard as i am sure i have a bargain sitting on the lot with your name on it. The rubbish you read at this time of year is incredible. Come on guys this is a great platform for the SAAFL clubs to interact so please keep it credible.
Gatt_Weasel wrote:if they (Walkerville) dont win the flag ill run around the block of my street naked :) you can grab a chair and enjoy the view
by Arch44 » Tue Sep 23, 2014 1:34 pm
by Pag » Tue Sep 23, 2014 1:40 pm
by Look Good In Leather » Tue Sep 23, 2014 1:41 pm
lovetotalkfooty wrote:Been hearing some amazing figures being bandied around for coaches in the SAAFL. Got me thinking about what a coach is worth. Lets not make this a I heard "X" gets paid $10000 a year and "Y" gets $7000 a year. More interested in what people think coaches should be paid in each division.
by Mr Beefy » Tue Sep 23, 2014 1:49 pm
Look Good In Leather wrote:lovetotalkfooty wrote:Been hearing some amazing figures being bandied around for coaches in the SAAFL. Got me thinking about what a coach is worth. Lets not make this a I heard "X" gets paid $10000 a year and "Y" gets $7000 a year. More interested in what people think coaches should be paid in each division.
Whilst it is still called the South Australian Amateur Football League, $0
If they do not change the official name (not just adopt some branding), they should go back to the following definition for eligibility of players:
1 Anyone who has never taken part in a football match or any other form of athletics for a stake or money prize.
2 Anyone who has never earned or partially earned his living by playing football or any other form of athletics, or taken money either directly or indirectly, in recognition of his skill therein.
by Cohiba » Tue Sep 23, 2014 1:56 pm
Look Good In Leather wrote:lovetotalkfooty wrote:Been hearing some amazing figures being bandied around for coaches in the SAAFL. Got me thinking about what a coach is worth. Lets not make this a I heard "X" gets paid $10000 a year and "Y" gets $7000 a year. More interested in what people think coaches should be paid in each division.
Whilst it is still called the South Australian Amateur Football League, $0
If they do not change the official name (not just adopt some branding), they should go back to the following definition for eligibility of players:
1 Anyone who has never taken part in a football match or any other form of athletics for a stake or money prize.
2 Anyone who has never earned or partially earned his living by playing football or any other form of athletics, or taken money either directly or indirectly, in recognition of his skill therein.
by jo172 » Tue Sep 23, 2014 2:05 pm
Footy Chick wrote:twobob wrote:Morell do you honestly believe that an A5 club is financial enough to be able to afford in excess of $16k for a coach. It sounds like late night front bar talk to me. If you believe that please come down to my car yard as i am sure i have a bargain sitting on the lot with your name on it. The rubbish you read at this time of year is incredible. Come on guys this is a great platform for the SAAFL clubs to interact so please keep it credible.
I still have written proof of what one certain coach was paid in his first year at his club, which was in D4 at the time (and that was 10 years ago) and it was in the above price range.
No rubbish.
and no thanks, I don't need a car.
Even with what he's bought to the club (which is a hell of a lot) I tend to agree that $15k + for a lower grade coach is excessive, no matter who it is.
and if they are demanding that type of cash in the lower divs then one would question whether the coach is in it for the right reasons.
by lovetotalkfooty » Tue Sep 23, 2014 2:08 pm
by WOS Dragons » Tue Sep 23, 2014 2:33 pm
lovetotalkfooty wrote:The players don't get paid in preseason so neither should the coaches.
As for 20-30 hours a week I find that hard to believe. Here is what I see. 2 hours Tuesday night, 2 hours Thursday night, 4 hours Saturday and 2 hours selecting players. 10 hours. There might e a few coaches who tape games and watch them again. Another 2 hours for them. However you are not going over tapes from other teams, watching there practice or getting scout reports. 12 hours is about the
Most I can see. Would love to know where the other hours are spent?
by carey » Tue Sep 23, 2014 3:22 pm
Pag wrote:I would think the figures that LTTF stated at the top of the thread would be very, very conservative for the general SAAFL population.
by beeroclock » Tue Sep 23, 2014 3:35 pm
lovetotalkfooty wrote:Been hearing some amazing figures being bandied around for coaches in the SAAFL. Got me thinking about what a coach is worth. Lets not make this a I heard "X" gets paid $10000 a year and "Y" gets $7000 a year. More interested in what people think coaches should be paid in each division.
Heres my thoughts.
Div 1 - What ever you can get and the club can afford. Would think most coaches get $6K - $8K range or $333.33 a game to $444.44 ( all based on 18 games no finals). These guys are either proven or played a pretty high level and should have a sound knowledge of the game.
Div 2-3 - I think you would pay around the $4K to $5K range. Again $222.22 to $277.77 a game. You can take a punt on a few untried coaches at this level. Most coaches would have played SAAFL before and have a reasonable understanding of the game.
Div 4-5 - Should not be paying over $3K to the coach. $166.66 per game. Most made up of guys who played SAAFL at either the club they are coaching or a reasonable level. Get by a lot on reputation but are mostly untried when it comes to the coaching game. A lot of ex captains of clubs end up coaching at this level.
Div 6-7 - Should be paying $2K max. $111.11 a game. A lot of guys are doing it for the love of the game or the club at this level and deserve to be rewarded in some way. At this level you need someone who can recruit and get guys to your club. Not a lot of clubs in this grade have promising junior program ( I said not a lot but there are a few).
Overall these coaches probably spend 10 hours a week and should be rewarded but when you hear of Div 5 and 6 clubs being asked up to $10000 a year to coach them it makes you laugh.
Just my thoughts.
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