Booney wrote:LPH wrote:I'm not sure what is more overwhelming, your arrogance or your illiteracy?
Question his language skills if you wish, just don't question his blind delusion.
Edited for accuracy.
by johntheclaret » Sun Sep 14, 2014 10:38 pm
Booney wrote:LPH wrote:I'm not sure what is more overwhelming, your arrogance or your illiteracy?
Question his language skills if you wish, just don't question his blind delusion.
by johntheclaret » Sun Sep 14, 2014 10:40 pm
saintal wrote:Jim05 wrote:stan wrote:Good luck to Williamstown this weekend. A crap decision from an equality point of view. But if you look at the response from people like Jay Clark from the sun saying that common sense has prevailled, then yoy can see that even the vic media see it as only a feeder or reserves comp only. Time for the other actual VFL clubs to make a seperate league.
Box Hill win by 7 points and McEvoy BOG to rub salt into the wounds
Ouch.
by kickinit » Sun Sep 14, 2014 10:42 pm
johntheclaret wrote:And your SANFL side is your afl reserves. Get over it and accept reality.
by CUTTERMAN » Sun Sep 14, 2014 10:51 pm
dedja wrote:Hypocrite much Mr Summerton?
"A Power reserves team will be a team full of blokes not playing for the prison bars, but playing only to try and get themselves noticed by the AFL side," wrote Summerton.
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl ... 6707860823
PORT ADELAIDE president David Koch is under fire from Magpie greats and current players - including Magarey Medallist Jeremy Clayton - as the future of the SANFL club remains under threat.
Clayton and Magpies vice-captain Steve Summerton have taken to social media to blast Koch and club chief executive Keith Thomas for not standing up to the SA Football Commission that is demanding Port choose between a Power AFL reserves team in the SANFL or keeping the full-scale Magpies.
Koch last night led a board meeting at Alberton to consider the reality their hands are tied on this debate because the Magpies do not have permanent tenure in the SANFL. The league's directors could on November 1 - when the two SA-based AFL licences are expected to be sold to the AFL for $15 million - revoke the Magpies' licence.
The Magpies' part in the SANFL would then be replaced by a stand-alone Power AFL reserves team.
Port's board last night considered an SANFL offer to:
PLACE all excess Power players in the SANFL league competition from next year.
KEEP the Magpies reserves and under-age teams and recruiting zones for only 2014.
In 2015, Port would then mirror the Crows - with an AFL team and a reserves side in the SANFL league competition. The AFL clubs would have no recruiting zone and rely on SANFL clubs for "top-up" players.
Port's board is unlikely to declare its position until the Magpies have played last SANFL game - against Glenelg at Glenelg - next Saturday.
Clayton, who retired from the Magpies last year after 125 games and with five club champion titles, attacked Koch on Twitter on Thursday saying: "Are you and the leaders of the footy club, going to roll over to the sanfl commission? 140 years of history gone! For what?"
More cutting was 2010 club champion Summerton on Facebook where he questioned the right of Power players to wear the traditional Magpie jumper in the SANFL.
"A Power reserves team will be a team full of blokes not playing for the prison bars, but playing only to try and get themselves noticed by the AFL side," wrote Summerton.
"There's a massive difference."
Summerton also attacked any plan to shut down the Magpies' under-age teams and recruiting zones in the city and on the Eyre Peninsula.
"To think that a young lad, either local or from the West Coast, can't dream of growing up and one day playing for the mighty Port Magpies is a disgrace.
"The integrity of the SANFL is now dead."
Summerton also called for the SANFL premiership flags to be removed from the Power changerooms saying: "Put them in the Magpies rooms - you didn't win them, the Magpies did."
Port's official response last night was to acknowledge Summerton's "passion and emotion". But the club added Summerton was speaking without knowledge of the negotiations to preserve the Magpies in the SANFL.
Clayton challenged Koch on Twitter to stop answering easy questions to the fans and to deal with "the tough ones in regards to the Magpies future."
by dedja » Sun Sep 14, 2014 10:57 pm
by CUTTERMAN » Sun Sep 14, 2014 10:58 pm
kickinit wrote:johntheclaret wrote:And your SANFL side is your afl reserves. Get over it and accept reality.
You do realise I have accepted reality. You and many other are the ones that have not accepted it. You can correct me if i'm wrong but the SANFL call Port's side in the SANFL the MAGPIES. So in your words get over it and accept reality.
by dedja » Sun Sep 14, 2014 11:03 pm
by mal » Sun Sep 14, 2014 11:11 pm
by johntheclaret » Sun Sep 14, 2014 11:26 pm
mal wrote:OK
I'm going to put aside the arguments presented on who is Port Adelaide in the SANFL these days.
1877-2013
2014 +
1877+
My interpretation of a sports competition
* Where 2 or more entities compete under the same rules and regulations.*
CURRENT SANFL COMP
8 teams picking an A Grade team , and the perception it is the best available personnel on a given day
2 teams picking a B grade team , being who is leftover from its AFL team.
QUESTION
How is this meant to be a proper competition if the rules are different for 20 % of the teams to the other 80 % ?
ANSWER
My answer
Its not a proper comp anymore until:
Port Reserves and Adelaide Reserves are deleted from the comp
Or
Until CD/EG/GL/NW/NA/SA/ST/WA field an AFL team , and play their B grade in the SANFL
by Booney » Mon Sep 15, 2014 6:39 am
CUTTERMAN wrote:kickinit wrote:johntheclaret wrote:And your SANFL side is your afl reserves. Get over it and accept reality.
You do realise I have accepted reality. You and many other are the ones that have not accepted it. You can correct me if i'm wrong but the SANFL call Port's side in the SANFL the MAGPIES. So in your words get over it and accept reality.
Click your heels together twice and you'll still be in Kansas with Toto if you do it often enough
Wasn't so long ago that everything SANFL was evil and anti Port. Now it's gospel.
You're an idiot
by Booney » Mon Sep 15, 2014 6:40 am
johntheclaret wrote:Booney wrote:LPH wrote:I'm not sure what is more overwhelming, your arrogance or your illiteracy?
Question his language skills if you wish, just don't question his blind delusion.
Edited for accuracy.
by heater31 » Mon Sep 15, 2014 9:56 am
Tech1 wrote:Wait until the Crows finish in the finals in the next year or two, they both will only get stronger in the years to come. The latest restrictions on top up players leave it open for them to get better, not to mention when they open up a mid year draft. Wait for a Power and Crows reserves grand final coming up in a few years. The competition is pretty much dead for the purest SANFL supporter without some serious changes or getting rid of them to the VFL.
by wild dog » Mon Sep 15, 2014 12:39 pm
Booney wrote:johntheclaret wrote:Booney wrote:LPH wrote:I'm not sure what is more overwhelming, your arrogance or your illiteracy?
Question his language skills if you wish, just don't question his blind delusion.
Edited for accuracy.
No, I certainly meant loyalty.
by Dogwatcher » Mon Sep 15, 2014 12:42 pm
by wild dog » Mon Sep 15, 2014 12:52 pm
Dogwatcher wrote:The are-they-or-aren't-they debate is a load of tosh in this national league reserves issue.
It clouds the issues which are of real concern, being the inequity of the situation presented by two clubs whose main goal is not the SANFL flag and have more advantages than the other eight.
by Maddawg » Tue Sep 16, 2014 10:12 am
by mal » Tue Sep 16, 2014 10:21 am
by mal » Tue Sep 16, 2014 1:32 pm
by Dog Day Afternoon » Tue Sep 16, 2014 1:52 pm
Maddawg wrote:It totally confuses me that the arguement for no AFL reserves comp comes down to $$$$. The only diffrence from playing in SA against the SANFL clubs, the same being said for the NEAFL teams, WAFL or VFL teams is travel expenses.
Yet the NEAFL one of the poorest leagues in the land has teams playing each other from the Northern Territory, ACT,Queensland and NSW flying all over the country.
Surely the AFL is contributing to that league an enormous amount of coin when they could remain state based and those funds to Fund a National reserves comp.
by Fricky » Tue Sep 16, 2014 2:03 pm
mal wrote:To the 6 clubs that voted YES.
From here on, this will probably happen to each and every YES voter :
You entice a youngster to try out at the club.
You nuture the lad, teach him the skills of the game , develop him into a very good footballer.
He stars, or shows ability.
Inevitability takes his course.
The lad gets drafted.
This has been happening for a while now , he ends up at an AFL club
Its par for course , most players strive to play in the big league
That lad might be drafted to play for any of the 18 clubs
The lad might even get drafted to play with the Adelaide Crows and Port Power in the AFL
The lad may even get to play for Adelaide Reserves or Port Reserves in the SANFL
That player plays against the 6 clubs that raised him that voted YES
The farce continues
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