by Neverwasgood » Sat May 17, 2014 7:36 pm
by The Dark Knight » Sat May 17, 2014 8:36 pm
Neverwasgood wrote:Good hit out at North Haven today in the c grade. Great bunch of guys that play tough footy. They will certainly rattle the top sides on their day. The only downer today was their coach, biggest knob I've seen in a while. Even the players were trying to tell him to shut up. But overall a good day.
by TEX07 » Sun May 18, 2014 10:05 am
heater31 wrote:Hefty wrote:S Demon wrote:What makes you say that, out of interest?
Playing football at 10 o'clock in the morning does not appeal to me. It's hard enough getting D grade players playing at 12 o'clock......
Same reason why I didn't like playing Triples. I did my time playing morning football when I was a kid.
by S Demon » Mon May 26, 2014 12:29 pm
by Trader » Mon May 26, 2014 6:04 pm
by Boosh » Mon May 26, 2014 9:27 pm
S Demon wrote:Its a bit of a tricky situation and not ideal at the moment, but here's the facts:
The D grade coach approached the committee towards the end of last year and asked if he could put together a D grade side with a bunch of mates who mostly either haven't played for a few years or were currently playing lower level football at other clubs. The committee agreed that we should go down this path to increase the number of patrons at the club, as well as put us on par with the surrounding strong N/E clubs who all have 4-5 teams (TTG, Modbury, GG). They also had a sponsor already on board to buy them new jumpers
A side effect to having a new D grade is that our traditionally competitive C grade has been elevated into a very strong Div 8 competition. To further add to it, at least 12 regular C graders from the last 2-3 years decided late into the summer to hang the boots up for a number of different reasons. Something that Im sure other clubs can attest to this year. Add to that a large number of injuries in all grades, and the depth of our club has been tested. In hindsight, we could have put the D grade side (who have all come together to play) as the C grade side at the start of the year and the results for the C grade might be slightly different. Although I am fairly certain however that with the players GG had running around in their C grade on saturday, they probably would have beaten the D grade side we fielded and most likely even our B grade.
We thought with a number of kids coming up this year, the C grade side would still fill a competitive side. Another 2 x key C grade players took off overseas recently (returning soon) so the core group from 2013 is basically non existent and something we didn't see coming. The side will improve after the bye with any luck and hopefully so will their results.
I definitely wouldn't say the D grade are sandbagging. If we pick the best 25 and then the rest play D grade, we run the risk of most or all of those blokes that came to play together being split up and then not playing at all and losing our D grade side completely, stuffing around Div 8R and adding another bye to the fixture as well copping any financial penalties from the league.
We took a punt on getting up a D grade side which has brought at least 40 new blokes into the club (and let me tell you, those boys don't mind spending a bit over the bar and easily outnumbered GG players in their clubrooms after both games were finished) so from that perspective it has been a success. Not many of them train consistently either, whereas the C grade boys do train and warrant their spot. Just because there is some talent in the D grade, doesn't mean they should be playing C grade. A bloke who trains twice a week should be picked before someone who doesn't train at all, regardless of ability. #17 for example in your C grade would walk into most A grade midfield's at any club in any division. But he works and can't train. He's getting a gig before other blokes who might be training two nights a week and still playing D grade. I don't necessarily agree with that, but I'm not involved at GG and it has nothing to do with me
This whole D grade venture has been a learning experience for us and we having ongoing discussions about what to do in 2015 if we continue to have a D grade side. We will look at all options, including having this group all play together in the C grade. But then I'm sure Hefty you will still complain about them sandbagging in that grade too, because there is probably at least 5 x players who could play A grade if they were committed and actually wanted to play a higher level. I don't think we're the only club in SA who has some talent playing lower grade football
by Neverwasgood » Sun Jun 15, 2014 10:36 am
by Trader » Sun Jun 15, 2014 1:04 pm
Trader wrote:% of 56? Must be sandbagging...
by Road to Glory » Sun Jun 15, 2014 3:20 pm
Trader wrote:Trader wrote:% of 56? Must be sandbagging...
12, 10 and 28 goal victories over the last three weeks while the C's remain winless. I hate to say it, but the Sandbagging case is growing.
by Q. » Sun Jun 15, 2014 3:44 pm
Road to Glory wrote:Trader wrote:Trader wrote:% of 56? Must be sandbagging...
12, 10 and 28 goal victories over the last three weeks while the C's remain winless. I hate to say it, but the Sandbagging case is growing.
Maybe we should wait to see what happens over the next two weeks when they actually play good teams, they've played very poor teams recently.
by TEX07 » Sun Jun 15, 2014 4:47 pm
Road to Glory wrote:Trader wrote:Trader wrote:% of 56? Must be sandbagging...
12, 10 and 28 goal victories over the last three weeks while the C's remain winless. I hate to say it, but the Sandbagging case is growing.
Maybe we should wait to see what happens over the next two weeks when they actually play good teams, they've played very poor teams recently.
by Trader » Sun Jun 15, 2014 5:06 pm
Road to Glory wrote:Trader wrote:Trader wrote:% of 56? Must be sandbagging...
12, 10 and 28 goal victories over the last three weeks while the C's remain winless. I hate to say it, but the Sandbagging case is growing.
Maybe we should wait to see what happens over the next two weeks when they actually play good teams, they've played very poor teams recently.
by S Demon » Sun Jun 15, 2014 11:47 pm
by marbles » Mon Jun 16, 2014 12:17 am
by TEX07 » Mon Jun 16, 2014 9:01 am
S Demon wrote:I'm glad you're all so concerned with our C and D grade. I'm not. I'm focused on our A grade winning more games in Div 4 and hopefully playing finals in our 2nd year in that division after promotion.
There's probably 6-8 guys in our D grade who could potentially play A grade if they actually trained and wanted to. Fact is, the D grade get maybe 5-6 at training each week. The C grade are struggling, but they are getting at least 15 blokes on the track week in week out. So you lot want us to pick blokes who show very little interest during the week ahead of the guys who are genuinely trying to improve and work hard to get better?
I don't need to defend our D grade anymore. They are a great bunch of blokes and have been great for our club. At the start of the year we worried about both sides being competitive in Div 8. I'd go into more details about how they are short most Thursday nights and drag blokes from here there and everywhere, but what would be the point? You all know better anyway!
Maybe next year we'll look at swapping the 2 sides around, then you can all bitch and moan about Hope Valley playing all their C graders in Div 8R and sandbagging!
by marbles » Mon Jun 16, 2014 11:22 am
by TEX07 » Mon Jun 16, 2014 11:03 pm
marbles wrote:S-Demon was meaning Div-8 agrade champ
by S Demon » Wed Jun 18, 2014 11:13 pm
TEX07 wrote:marbles wrote:S-Demon was meaning Div-8 agrade champ
Sorry? pretty sure he was talking about 6-8 guys in his D grade that could play A grade still. I only really know that Kuhar could easily play A grade at Hope Valley, I dont know enough about the others to make a judgement to be honeset when they beat us it was guys that would probably only push up to the C grade that hurt us - I dont know anyone who would refer to their C grade side as a Div 8 - A grade? But if S-Demon was refering to his C grade I stand corrected.
by TEX07 » Thu Jun 19, 2014 3:23 pm
S Demon wrote:TEX07 wrote:marbles wrote:S-Demon was meaning Div-8 agrade champ
Sorry? pretty sure he was talking about 6-8 guys in his D grade that could play A grade still. I only really know that Kuhar could easily play A grade at Hope Valley, I dont know enough about the others to make a judgement to be honeset when they beat us it was guys that would probably only push up to the C grade that hurt us - I dont know anyone who would refer to their C grade side as a Div 8 - A grade? But if S-Demon was refering to his C grade I stand corrected.
Nah I was taking about our A grade. A club only has one A grade.
Some of these guys have played Div 1. Some have played A grade for us in the past. Nearly ALL of them didn't play footy for us at all last year, including the ex A graders.
Let's also not forget the 4 x blokes who are 41, 42, 43 and 45. Pugliese x 2, Hawkins and Kulpe. Another bloke who's 39 hasn't played footy since he was in primary school. I hate the term sandbagging and that's certainly not what's happening. If they fall over in the finals like you suggested they will do the same thing they do every other week. Buy a shitload of beer over the bar and have a good time together...
by Hefty » Mon Jul 07, 2014 11:21 am
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