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Re: Hills Football League

Postby Thunder Down Under » Wed Jun 27, 2007 10:14 am

Good call Jailbird, all in the football fraternity are relieved that Michael was not seriously injured. It was a frightning moment for all concerned on both sides of the fence and credit should go to those trainers who dealt with the matter in a professional manner. Unfortuntately there will always be a few who get too emotional and wish to take the matter further.

You need to take a deep breath Crumber and consider whether there are any other coaches boxes, walls, fences, signage etc that are too close for comfort at any Hills Ground before you start relocating IB's.

As for Floreani it was a case of what he does he does well but hardly a match winner. Somewhat surprised he was in the best for Lofty.
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Re: Hills Football League

Postby shake'n'bake » Wed Jun 27, 2007 10:42 am

Would actually disagree TDU. I actually felt that floreani had a really solid game! Runs all day is at every contest and would have to be one of the hardest working recruits ive seen. Just a wise footballer never wasteful with his disposal, i think most clubs would be more than happy to have a player of that calibre at their club.

However, i would agree with the comments re the time keeping box. At the most the boundary line should probably be brought in a metre! Hardly fair to point the figure at the likes of the location of the coaches box etc at Ironbank, when Hahndorf has a concrete drain around the edge of their oval and as has been pointed out the various other potentially dangerous structures at other Hills grounds still stand.

In regards to the headbutting incident i believe Hare headbutted the bloke because he was the recipient of a punch just seconds earlier! Am the first to admit that Ironbank lost their cool way too easy on the weekend and should have focused on the footy, but to see two cards given due to retaliation had me questioning the use of the Cards and what they stand for! There was a yellow card given in the first quarter to Howes when he retaliated to Nathan Peterson Gray, vicously strangling Ironbank's young ruckman whilst he lay on the ground! And like already pointed out the red was also due to retaliation. The problem with the cards system is there are no video replays which the umpire can use to see the whole incident, so therefore im often wondering how it is fair to send someone off for retaliation! Especially in the case of Peterson Gray, was Howes supposed to politely ask him to stop strangling his team mate??? Or just stand and watch the young bloke turn blue???
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Re: Hills Football League

Postby luvinfooty » Wed Jun 27, 2007 10:44 am

I was suprised to see Flo in the best players again this week. He certainly is up there and i am defintely not doubting his ability. But out of all the weeks he has played im pretty sure he has been in the best players every week?

No Ben Gordon because he has been injured since the start of the season, i think he played against Blackwood an re-injured himself. I think he will be back in a few weeks, hopefully in time for the Uris courier cup match on the 14th July.

In regards to warbo, i saw/spoke to him yesterday. He is looking great, obviously still a little sore around the head but is doing great, considering how bad it could have been. The trainers did a great job.
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Re: Hills Football League

Postby Mop Up » Wed Jun 27, 2007 10:49 am

Good to hear Warbo is well! Terrible incident but from all reports was an accident and Smithy was quite cut up about the whole ordeal. Think it was a case of Warbo only weighing 50kg bouncing off someone weighing 100kg.

As for the A grade. Was interesting that only IB players got cards. I'm not saying they weren't warranted but I don't see how when two people are throwing punches only one is sent off. In one incident Howser came in to protect young Harding as he was pinned on the ground receiving some treatment. Yet only the retaliator gets the yellow card. Same in Hare incident. Harey copped a smack so retaliates and gets red card. Late in the first qtr there was a very tiny bit of push and shove after a goal which is standard stuff turn into full on melee thanks to a Lofty player(DK) running 10m to slug a young IB'er in the head for no reason. All seen on dvd and Umpire literally 2 metres away, saw whole thing yet no action taken. Little bit of consistency would've helped thats all i'm saying.

Floreani 2nd best again!! can see what you Lofty people have been talking about. Thought he was solid but 2nd best. Gimme a break. Was trezenski best too? Cmon Lofty ppl tell us who you thought shouldve been in the best?
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Re: Hills Football League

Postby Mop Up » Wed Jun 27, 2007 10:50 am

Oops Beat me to the "punch" there Shake n Bake. Just backing up your point now i guess
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Re: Hills Football League

Postby Chook » Wed Jun 27, 2007 11:54 am

tough call to pick best players every week I am thinking, especially considering lofty played well and beat IB so convincingly. That would have to mean that most people would have played well.

Would like to know how the best players are picked. Usually its the coach, the team manager, a member of the selection committee and then either 1 or 2 others from the club that watch the game and pick best players. From this they usually pick best players. That way there is no biased best players.
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Re: Hills Football League

Postby Chook » Wed Jun 27, 2007 11:59 am

Thunder Down Under wrote:Good call Jailbird, all in the football fraternity are relieved that Michael was not seriously injured. It was a frightning moment for all concerned on both sides of the fence and credit should go to those trainers who dealt with the matter in a professional manner. Unfortuntately there will always be a few who get too emotional and wish to take the matter further.

You need to take a deep breath Crumber and consider whether there are any other coaches boxes, walls, fences, signage etc that are too close for comfort at any Hills Ground before you start relocating IB's.

As for Floreani it was a case of what he does he does well but hardly a match winner. Somewhat surprised he was in the best for Lofty.


Thunder I totally dissagree about your comment on floreani. I reckon he is a match winner or should I say a premiership winner. Why you ask, muffy is a match winner, but does he play well every week?? NO he does not, he goes missing when it counts, ok he is a class player, but he isn't the type of player I would want playing for me. He can break a game open, but he did none of the sort against a good team like lofty.

Floreani however is a match winner, as he goes in hard for every contest, reads the ball well, always uses it correctly. Ok he isn't lightning fast hasn't got silky skills, but brings other players into the game so they can become match winners. Over the entirer season, he will be far more beneficial then say a muffy, who play a cracker then an average game. Hence floreani is a premiership winner.
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Re: Hills Football League

Postby Paul Nixon » Wed Jun 27, 2007 1:19 pm

Have seen all of John Floreani's matches with lofty. If you watch him closely he is a quality footballer. He does so many things that go easily un noticed, consistently turning 50-50 contests into Lofty posession. He gets 25-30 touches a game, rarely wastes any of these, is hardworking, unselfish and a team player. With the possible exception of the Uraidla game, he has more than deserved to be in the best 5 players in all the games since then. Think people expect more spectacular play from him but in reality he gets the job done almost every contest.
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Re: Hills Football League

Postby Cougar » Wed Jun 27, 2007 2:53 pm

If Hahndorf had a chance of netting the Guy who is Coaching Echunga at the moment and didn't take it, then they have seriously Stuffed Up. He has brought along some quality recruit$ and either he or Munny have them where no one thought they would be pre-season. Having played Hahndorf (albeit in a trial game) and seen Echunga, I think for the first time over a very lengthy period, the Dees would have the Magpies covered.
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Re: Hills Football League

Postby magpie in the 80's » Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:50 pm

reminds me of a similar event in 1977 when echunga told lynton bishop that they were not going to fork out money for him, his brother and a couple of other players to coach them. well hahndorf got wind of this and went and interviewed him, his brother and other players. bishop took hahndorf from almost bottom (milang were last) to a GF and back into the central division, while echunga laboured in the lower divisions for years. bishop went onto to win i think 3 mail medals for hahndorf and his brother and other players were all good quality "A" grade players. :D
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Re: Hills Football League

Postby Insider » Wed Jun 27, 2007 8:17 pm

Hey you Lofty supporters out there, the rumour is that your coach is already laying down some contract rules with tailem band in the river murray league? Not wat u wanna hear this time of year is it?
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Re: Hills Football League

Postby Mop Up » Thu Jun 28, 2007 2:45 am

Don't stress all you Lofty supporters... talk on the river murray forum suggests the rumour wasn't quite right. A different hills person in question! no idea who though.......
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Re: Hills Football League

Postby devilsadvocate » Thu Jun 28, 2007 6:43 am

Far out, Warbo! Hope you're alright big fella. Wish I was there to help you out mate! Hope you get well soon mate and slotting goals like noones business!

I bet the Warbinator knew the hit was coming but copped it sweet.

Go you Devils! I wasn't expecting such a convincing result!
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Re: Hills Football League

Postby citycoaster17 » Thu Jun 28, 2007 9:07 am

anyone hear any news from the tribunal last night re maccy and nairne game
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Re: Hills Football League

Postby ORDoubleBlues » Thu Jun 28, 2007 11:01 am

Cougar wrote:If Hahndorf had a chance of netting the Guy who is Coaching Echunga at the moment and didn't take it, then they have seriously Stuffed Up. He has brought along some quality recruit$ and either he or Munny have them where no one thought they would be pre-season. Having played Hahndorf (albeit in a trial game) and seen Echunga, I think for the first time over a very lengthy period, the Dees would have the Magpies covered.


Think part of it would be that Carlson is considered a mighty figure over Hahndorf way and the club is assuming that he is going to be able to turn things around but as great as a coach he might be, if he can't recruit any players they might be in the bottom half of the ladder for a while.
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Re: Hills Football League

Postby GetTheSherrin » Thu Jun 28, 2007 11:14 am

well well boys, a few things to be commented on here.

first of all the incident involving smithy and warbs was a complete accident, knowing brad pretty well would state 100% that he would never try to hurt someone in that way. it was a small nudge as they both got close to the boundary line, and if it wasnt for smiths size nothing wouldve come of it. and agree that there are dangers close to most ovals boundary lines so pointing out IBs is pointless.

ok, those who are claiming the tool that got sent off was the retaliator are either completely stupid or just want to believe that their recruit is a quality clean player. burch had been punched scratched and held all day long b4 the incident. and i suppose you all think he was retaliating when he headbutted matty stapes aswell. whatever!

re: jonny flo. next time you post about this man can it please be after you have actually watched the game. he was in my opinion by far the most dominant player on the ground. picked up well over 30 possies ALL of them put to advantage, and as PN posted turned so many 50/50 contests our way. he is an absolute gun.

and so much for the preseason calls for muffy to take the medal then. that bloke didnt get a touch in the second half.

and to finish off to comment on silverfoxes comment about jon temme. did you see IB shit themselves when a good team came to play them!!!!
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Re: Hills Football League

Postby shake'n'bake » Thu Jun 28, 2007 11:58 am

really thought you were going to have some interesting news or something GTS. Started off as a good post and it just dwindled away! Hardly think that labelling Hare as a tool is a legitimate comment. Yes the guy reacted badly in the spur of the moment but how many footballers didn't on the day? I think the point about the cards that was made was that there was clearly a number of reportable offences which occured from both teams players.
- Hare's headbutt
-DK's UNPROVOKED king hit
-Petersen's strangle hold
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Difference was ironbank supporters didn't go shooting off their mouths and calling your players various names.

I also love how quickly people can jump off the bandwagon, one average game for Muffy and all of a sudden he isn't worthy of the wraps on him :shock: :shock:
Guess it would be needless to remind you of the brilliance of this guy and the extensive list of personal achievements...
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Re: Hills Football League

Postby Thunder Down Under » Thu Jun 28, 2007 12:59 pm

Not a problem GTS might venture out and watch the Lofty clash with Uraidla July 14. I'll bring my pen and paper to jot down all Flo's possessions noting whether they are contested or uncontested and also whether they hit the target or not. That will put an end to the discsussion once and for all.

On the basis that in your opinion he was the most dominant player on the ground how come Trigger got the coaches nod ?

Will be interesting come Medal night to see how the umpires saw the game.
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Re: Hills Football League

Postby luvinfooty » Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:53 pm

shake'n'bake wrote:Difference was ironbank supporters didn't go shooting off their mouths and calling your players various names.




Geeeez mate, dont even get me started. To make a comment like that you must be on some mind altering substance. I wont even begin to tell you the things i was being called by your supporters. Where you even at the game??
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Re: Hills Football League

Postby GetTheSherrin » Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:58 pm

Difference was ironbank supporters didn't go shooting off their mouths and calling your players various names.

actually s&b i was amongst the IB supporters for the last qtr and half and thats exactly what they were doing.

your not going to get a card for a strangle hold. and if you headbutt someone on the field then you are a tool. IMO i didnt see any punches thrown by dk so cant comment.

and i was never on the muffy bandwagon so i couldnt jump off it. never said he wasnt a good player, some of his possies in the 1st qtr were as silky as ya see. simply making the point that he barely got a touch in the 2nd half. and i dont think the leagues that he has won his medals in would come close to the hills league.

TDU, mate im not the coach im simply saying who i thought was best. trig carved up aswell.
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