by Q. » Fri May 09, 2014 10:29 am
by bennymacca » Fri May 09, 2014 10:36 am
by tigerpie » Fri May 09, 2014 11:30 am
Q. wrote:It's bizarre that a party, whose core argument against a carbon tax was an increase in fuel prices, would then raise the fuel excise.
by woodublieve12 » Fri May 09, 2014 11:35 am
by Psyber » Fri May 09, 2014 11:36 am
dedja wrote:He comes the karma bus ... he'll end up being the fall guy for all the broken promises now that he's done his job and got the coalition in with his wrecking ball.
Completely out of his depth now.
by Q. » Fri May 09, 2014 11:41 am
woodublieve12 wrote:we seem to be going on nicely.
So why do we even need a tax increases?
by Psyber » Fri May 09, 2014 12:43 pm
Q. wrote:woodublieve12 wrote:we seem to be going on nicely.
So why do we even need a tax increases?
Because they're pinning their re-election on returning the budget to surplus.
by mighty_tiger_79 » Fri May 09, 2014 1:51 pm
Psyber wrote:dedja wrote:He comes the karma bus ... he'll end up being the fall guy for all the broken promises now that he's done his job and got the coalition in with his wrecking ball.
Completely out of his depth now.
You may have a point.
I've been actively campaigning to some figures in the Liberal leadership about my view that we do have to break promises to improve the debt situation, but should be upfront about concluding that - and that MPs should show sincerity about it being a genuine crisis by taking a demonstrable hit themselves.
Only Malcolm Turnbull replied personally: "As you can imagine it isn’t possible for me to respond in a substantive manner prior the Budget which will be handed down on May 13. In the meantime I have taken your concerns on board and will share them with my colleagues and in particular with the Treasurer."
I guess that's the best I could expect at this time.
by Jimmy_041 » Fri May 09, 2014 2:46 pm
mighty_tiger_79 wrote:Psyber wrote:dedja wrote:He comes the karma bus ... he'll end up being the fall guy for all the broken promises now that he's done his job and got the coalition in with his wrecking ball.
Completely out of his depth now.
You may have a point.
I've been actively campaigning to some figures in the Liberal leadership about my view that we do have to break promises to improve the debt situation, but should be upfront about concluding that - and that MPs should show sincerity about it being a genuine crisis by taking a demonstrable hit themselves.
Only Malcolm Turnbull replied personally: "As you can imagine it isn’t possible for me to respond in a substantive manner prior the Budget which will be handed down on May 13. In the meantime I have taken your concerns on board and will share them with my colleagues and in particular with the Treasurer."
I guess that's the best I could expect at this time.
well we know who the real mover and shaker is behind the scenes for the LIberal Party, especially if Malcolm gets the leadership....
by Jimmy_041 » Fri May 09, 2014 2:49 pm
bennymacca wrote:Q. wrote:It's bizarre that a party, whose core argument against a carbon tax was an increase in fuel prices, would then raise the fuel excise.
and also at the same time ditch the mining and carbon taxes, which was a pretty sensible way to raise some revenue (not to mention the intended environmental benefits) whilst keeping the hit to the hip pocket of the average punter as low as possible.
I guess being at the beck and call of big business at the expense of Joe Average IS a liberal core value though
by bennymacca » Fri May 09, 2014 2:50 pm
by gossipgirl » Fri May 09, 2014 4:27 pm
by Psyber » Sat May 10, 2014 7:06 pm
Jimmy_041 wrote:mighty_tiger_79 wrote:Psyber wrote:dedja wrote:He comes the karma bus ... he'll end up being the fall guy for all the broken promises now that he's done his job and got the coalition in with his wrecking ball.
Completely out of his depth now.
You may have a point.
I've been actively campaigning to some figures in the Liberal leadership about my view that we do have to break promises to improve the debt situation, but should be upfront about concluding that - and that MPs should show sincerity about it being a genuine crisis by taking a demonstrable hit themselves.
Only Malcolm Turnbull replied personally: "As you can imagine it isn’t possible for me to respond in a substantive manner prior the Budget which will be handed down on May 13. In the meantime I have taken your concerns on board and will share them with my colleagues and in particular with the Treasurer."
I guess that's the best I could expect at this time.
well we know who the real mover and shaker is behind the scenes for the LIberal Party, especially if Malcolm gets the leadership....
Psyber?
by dedja » Sat May 10, 2014 7:07 pm
by Psyber » Sat May 10, 2014 7:35 pm
dedja wrote:That's only because everyone else has deserted her ...
by dedja » Sat May 10, 2014 7:36 pm
by mighty_tiger_79 » Sun May 11, 2014 12:54 pm
by mighty_tiger_79 » Wed May 14, 2014 7:45 am
by Sorry Dude » Wed May 14, 2014 9:28 am
Psyber wrote:Q. wrote:woodublieve12 wrote:we seem to be going on nicely.
So why do we even need a tax increases?
Because they're pinning their re-election on returning the budget to surplus.
Yes that was Paul Keating's strategy too.
Make the promises, break them early and ride out the flack, give out goodies late in the term, then make generous promises again for the next election.
He just didn't quite pull off the recovery phase the last time.
by woodublieve12 » Wed May 14, 2014 9:43 am
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