by The Sleeping Giant » Sat Feb 22, 2014 10:35 am
by bennymacca » Sat Feb 22, 2014 10:38 am
by The Sleeping Giant » Sat Feb 22, 2014 10:53 am
by cracka » Sat Feb 22, 2014 12:08 pm
Q. wrote:The Sleeping Giant wrote:Don't we have the right to see if they are genuine first?
Yep, process them onshore like they do with asylum seekers arriving by plane.
by cracka » Sat Feb 22, 2014 12:15 pm
bulldogproud2 wrote:Jimmy, for starters have you never heard of New Zealand?? I guess not. I am confident that these asylum seekers would prefer to head there than Australia if they had a choice.
by The Sleeping Giant » Sat Feb 22, 2014 12:43 pm
by Q. » Sat Feb 22, 2014 1:17 pm
by The Sleeping Giant » Sat Feb 22, 2014 2:15 pm
by tigerpie » Sat Feb 22, 2014 2:26 pm
by Jimmy_041 » Sat Feb 22, 2014 3:23 pm
bulldogproud2 wrote:Jimmy, for starters have you never heard of New Zealand?? I guess not. I am confident that these asylum seekers would prefer to head there than Australia if they had a choice.
Yes, your general geography is good but do not forget that people from Afghanistan, Iran and Iraq may never have ever had a geography lesson in their life. It IS quite likely that they did not know that they were heading to Australia, believe it or not. Heck, when I travelled through Europe, a lot of people there had no clue where Australia is. This is people from countries that do have an education.
However, this is not the point that is being made in the article. Knowing that you are a man of intelligence, i truly thought you would be able to see that. You seem to be convinced of the fact that the main reasons asylum seekers travel is to head TO somewhere. The main reason is not heading to but heading AWAY. They are heading away from persecution, the risk of being killed etc. Their final destination is not important, as long as they arrive in a land where they may not have to fear that their lives are in danger.
Heck, have a look at the list of countries that asylum seekers go to to gain refugee status. if it was with the aim of going TO a country with wonderful living standards, why then are these countries at the top of the list:
Pakistan (number 1)
Iran (number 2)
Syria (number 3)
Kenya (number 5)
Jordan (number 6)
Chad (number 7)
China (number 8 )
Ethiopia (number 9)
Bangladesh (number 11)
This is the list that you provided earlier, your own list. The one that Australia is number 47 on.
Will it ever sink into you that asyum seekers travel FROM, not travel TO?
Cheers
Client Service
Unsurprisingly, the asylum seekers interviewed for the project were very unhappy about the delay experienced at every stage of their endeavour to gain recognition of refugee status in Indonesia. Moreover, UNHCR seemed to contribute unnecessarily to the anxiety levels of asylum seekers through poor management of expectations, e.g. promising to deliver decisions by a particular date and then subjecting asylum seekers to multiple postponements, and poor communication more generally.
Several asylum seekers criticised UNHCR for unresponsiveness on the occasions on which they attempted to initiate contact. In fairness it should be noted that some of these people had closed cases and were, therefore, technically no longer persons of concern to UNHCR. Other people, however, had active files but still found it difficult to get hold of anyone who was willing to answer their questions about the progress of their cases either on the phone or in person.
One person was particularly bitter about the fact that anyone who wanted to see a UNHCR officer had to line up outside UNHCR’s Jakarta office on a Friday even if it was raining. He said: ‘We have human rights and the right to meet officers but we can’t! We can only meet security guards!
The guards told us to wait out there! My shoes and clothes were all wet and I had fever when I got home! The UN never cares!’
by The Sleeping Giant » Sat Feb 22, 2014 4:16 pm
by cracka » Sat Feb 22, 2014 4:36 pm
by The Sleeping Giant » Sun Feb 23, 2014 10:20 am
by bennymacca » Sun Feb 23, 2014 10:42 am
The Sleeping Giant wrote:60% of Australians think the government is too soft on asylum seekers.
by The Sleeping Giant » Sun Feb 23, 2014 10:59 am
by bennymacca » Sun Feb 23, 2014 12:09 pm
The Sleeping Giant wrote:Labor party are equally responsible aren't they?
As I said earlier, I hope they keep coming.
by The Sleeping Giant » Sun Feb 23, 2014 12:52 pm
by shoe boy » Tue Feb 25, 2014 7:30 am
by Q. » Tue Feb 25, 2014 9:09 am
The Sleeping Giant wrote:Maybe you should see the boats that the Vietnamese refugees arrived on in the 70's. Extremely expendable, so it isn't a new thing. Darwin museum has some on display if you are ever up this way.
by scoob » Tue Feb 25, 2014 9:14 am
tigerpie wrote:My point exactly....be happy you are out of your former hell hole and make good wherever you lob.
I'm sure all arrivals unauthorised would be judged fairly on their merits and then whatever happens...happens.
Benny chill out mate its ok to be not quite right.
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