by morell » Tue Nov 19, 2013 4:07 pm
by Mr Beefy » Tue Nov 19, 2013 4:09 pm
morell wrote:Harro is moving on, not sure where just yet but Christies Beach a short priced favourite.watchdog wrote:Morell any news on the coach? Staying? Going? I hear that a couple of your better players possibly could also be on the move as well.
Yeah a couple of our better players have indicated that they are moving on but it's early days still.
We have plenty of work to do.
by beeroclock » Tue Nov 19, 2013 4:30 pm
morell wrote:Jesus H Christ.Look Good In Leather wrote:For the past 5-6 years it has been quite open that you need to have a playing budget of minimum $120k to be a finals contender.
Don't underestimate Lofty because they finished bottom, they had wins against Bridgewater and Onkaparinga Valley and were reasonably competitive in the remaining games. They are still a reasonable side.
Mt Lofty would have a budget of say ... $70k?
Starting to make sense now marbles and beeroclock?
by Armytank » Tue Nov 19, 2013 4:39 pm
by morell » Tue Nov 19, 2013 4:58 pm
Not sure at this stage mate. Pretty early days and things are always prone to change. A couple are looking to head back to Happy Valley. Couple to Plympton. Couple to Kenilworth. Couple to Flagstaff Hill.Mr Beefy wrote:morell wrote:Harro is moving on, not sure where just yet but Christies Beach a short priced favourite.watchdog wrote:Morell any news on the coach? Staying? Going? I hear that a couple of your better players possibly could also be on the move as well.
Yeah a couple of our better players have indicated that they are moving on but it's early days still.
We have plenty of work to do.
What players are leaving, where they off to?
by bar20 » Tue Nov 19, 2013 5:01 pm
by beeroclock » Tue Nov 19, 2013 5:03 pm
Armytank wrote:That is just player payments mate
by beeroclock » Tue Nov 19, 2013 5:05 pm
bar20 wrote:Morrell does have a ridiculous idea that every player should never be paid. Clubs like Mitchell Park and Morrell will have to gett over this ridiculous notion if they want Io exist and prosper into the future. You can't just blame local clubs like CLG and Kenilworth and Southern clubs for rewarding players efforts with financial reward. A part of football life that 95% of players are rewarded financially now. To suggest that football or SAAFL football should be non paying is both ridiculous and nieve. Time for Mitchell Park to either dig ino their pockets or just accept that players will walk away for financial reasons. The days of playing for zero reward have been over for 20 years and is nothing new. It has nothing to do with who is a tue Mitchell Park player but a football reality
by Jetters » Tue Nov 19, 2013 5:07 pm
morell wrote:Not sure at this stage mate. Pretty early days and things are always prone to change. A couple are looking to head back to Happy Valley. Couple to Plympton. Couple to Kenilworth. Couple to Flagstaff Hill.Mr Beefy wrote:morell wrote:Harro is moving on, not sure where just yet but Christies Beach a short priced favourite.watchdog wrote:Morell any news on the coach? Staying? Going? I hear that a couple of your better players possibly could also be on the move as well.
Yeah a couple of our better players have indicated that they are moving on but it's early days still.
We have plenty of work to do.
What players are leaving, where they off to?
This is why we struggle. The competitiveness for good young players in the area we are is very high. Some will be on some significant coin as well. We just can't match offers to a guy who is 20 and has the chance to earn as much in a game of footy as they do during the week working.
It was always a chance to happen. We had such an influx that if a couple went they would all go.
Ah well, onwards and upwards, as I said, this year we will learn, once again, who the true Mitchell Park people really are.
by Armytank » Tue Nov 19, 2013 5:18 pm
beeroclock wrote:Armytank wrote:That is just player payments mate
Hell and they finished bottom.
Money well spent if true.
by beeroclock » Tue Nov 19, 2013 5:39 pm
Armytank wrote:beeroclock wrote:Armytank wrote:That is just player payments mate
Hell and they finished bottom.
Money well spent if true.
Unfortunately a sad fact in "country" football.
I have heard from a very reliable source that Torrens Valley's Budget 5 years ago when the won the Country Div Premiership (Hills Div 2) was $200k but that was just rediculous.
Uraidla, who have been premiers 4 years in a row now is basically a North Adelaide reserves/fringe league side from 2006. There are some quality footballers earning some quality coin in the Hills
by Armytank » Tue Nov 19, 2013 5:51 pm
by morell » Tue Nov 19, 2013 6:01 pm
I've been over this countless times and to be honest the discussion now bores me and probably many others. Suffice to say I would much rather struggle and get smashed but play with great life long friends, than play with a bunch of guys who are after a pay packet and/or aren't interested in contributing to the club outside of kicks, marks and handballs.bar20 wrote:Morrell does have a ridiculous idea that every player should never be paid. Clubs like Mitchell Park and Morrell will have to gett over this ridiculous notion if they want Io exist and prosper into the future. You can't just blame local clubs like CLG and Kenilworth and Southern clubs for rewarding players efforts with financial reward. A part of football life that 95% of players are rewarded financially now. To suggest that football or SAAFL football should be non paying is both ridiculous and nieve. Time for Mitchell Park to either dig ino their pockets or just accept that players will walk away for financial reasons. The days of playing for zero reward have been over for 20 years and is nothing new. It has nothing to do with who is a tue Mitchell Park player but a football reality
by morell » Tue Nov 19, 2013 6:12 pm
You troll a lot of threads.Jetters wrote:You make a lot of excuses.
by beeroclock » Tue Nov 19, 2013 6:15 pm
Armytank wrote:yep....
by Yank Man » Tue Nov 19, 2013 8:56 pm
morell wrote:I've been over this countless times and to be honest the discussion now bores me and probably many others. Suffice to say I would much rather struggle and get smashed but play with great life long friends, than play with a bunch of guys who are after a pay packet and/or aren't interested in contributing to the club outside of kicks, marks and handballs.bar20 wrote:Morrell does have a ridiculous idea that every player should never be paid. Clubs like Mitchell Park and Morrell will have to gett over this ridiculous notion if they want Io exist and prosper into the future. You can't just blame local clubs like CLG and Kenilworth and Southern clubs for rewarding players efforts with financial reward. A part of football life that 95% of players are rewarded financially now. To suggest that football or SAAFL football should be non paying is both ridiculous and nieve. Time for Mitchell Park to either dig ino their pockets or just accept that players will walk away for financial reasons. The days of playing for zero reward have been over for 20 years and is nothing new. It has nothing to do with who is a tue Mitchell Park player but a football reality
That is a personal preference and a cultural point of difference at Mitchell Park. Some people love it, and stay for the rest of their careers. Others don't dig it as much.
We are essentially a social football club, some people at the club would hate me saying that, but that's the reality. Of course we strive for success and we want to win, but ultimately, on field success is only one measurement of how well we're going. Gameday lasts for a couple of hours, the amount time I spend at the club is much, much more than that. Sport is the vehicle, but the real reason why I play, and I would suggest the great majority of other people at Mitchell Park play, is for the social component. Paying players would erode the social component.
Its a different outlook, and one that is sadly disappearing from modern football. But I wouldn't have it any other way.
If you all want to turn your clubs into mini corporations and slut yourselves to the next group of mercenaries, so be it, good luck with that, have fun in the lofty heights of what, Div 4? Div 3? Whoppdeedoo! We will still be down here, having a laugh, and kicking goals, albeit likely less than our opponents in 2014.
by marbles » Tue Nov 19, 2013 9:39 pm
by morell » Tue Nov 19, 2013 10:06 pm
by Look Good In Leather » Tue Nov 19, 2013 10:39 pm
beeroclock wrote:Armytank wrote:That is just player payments mate
Hell and they finished bottom.
Money well spent if true.
by zedman » Wed Nov 20, 2013 8:35 am
Yank Man wrote:morell wrote:I've been over this countless times and to be honest the discussion now bores me and probably many others. Suffice to say I would much rather struggle and get smashed but play with great life long friends, than play with a bunch of guys who are after a pay packet and/or aren't interested in contributing to the club outside of kicks, marks and handballs.bar20 wrote:Morrell does have a ridiculous idea that every player should never be paid. Clubs like Mitchell Park and Morrell will have to gett over this ridiculous notion if they want Io exist and prosper into the future. You can't just blame local clubs like CLG and Kenilworth and Southern clubs for rewarding players efforts with financial reward. A part of football life that 95% of players are rewarded financially now. To suggest that football or SAAFL football should be non paying is both ridiculous and nieve. Time for Mitchell Park to either dig ino their pockets or just accept that players will walk away for financial reasons. The days of playing for zero reward have been over for 20 years and is nothing new. It has nothing to do with who is a tue Mitchell Park player but a football reality
That is a personal preference and a cultural point of difference at Mitchell Park. Some people love it, and stay for the rest of their careers. Others don't dig it as much.
We are essentially a social football club, some people at the club would hate me saying that, but that's the reality. Of course we strive for success and we want to win, but ultimately, on field success is only one measurement of how well we're going. Gameday lasts for a couple of hours, the amount time I spend at the club is much, much more than that. Sport is the vehicle, but the real reason why I play, and I would suggest the great majority of other people at Mitchell Park play, is for the social component. Paying players would erode the social component.
Its a different outlook, and one that is sadly disappearing from modern football. But I wouldn't have it any other way.
If you all want to turn your clubs into mini corporations and slut yourselves to the next group of mercenaries, so be it, good luck with that, have fun in the lofty heights of what, Div 4? Div 3? Whoppdeedoo! We will still be down here, having a laugh, and kicking goals, albeit likely less than our opponents in 2014.
morell, you do not need to defend yourself and your great club re paying players. Yes, most clubs do it and the progressive one's who want to go up divisions all have footy spending budgets to get them there. The wonderful thing about MP is the mateship of people who play for the love of the club. If that leaves the club up and down from Div 6 to 7 and players coming and going then so be it. It is what it is at the den but unless attitudes change at the top then the club will struggle to stay alive. Yes zedman, I hope to come back this year and be an influence in some way.
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