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2013 SANFL RESERVES GRAND FINAL - Eagles vs Glenelg

Postby maxyoz » Sun Sep 29, 2013 9:34 pm

Thougt I'd start a thread for this blockbuster.

Last time these 2 met in a Grand Final was in 2009, where Glenelg came from 41 points behind early in the 3rd quarter to win.

Mick Goddens last game as Reserves Coach at Glenelg.

Glenelg has won recent Reserves premierships in 2007, 2009 and 2011 - so I guess it makes sense that they win this year.
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Re: 2013 SANFL RESERVES GRAND FINAL - Eagles vs Glenelg

Postby dedja » Sun Sep 29, 2013 9:37 pm

Geelong thought the same though ...
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Re: 2013 SANFL RESERVES GRAND FINAL - Eagles vs Glenelg

Postby maxyoz » Sun Sep 29, 2013 9:44 pm

Difference is, we are in the Granny, they weren't, so our chances of winning are significantly better.
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Re: 2013 SANFL RESERVES GRAND FINAL - Eagles vs Glenelg

Postby SimonH » Sun Sep 29, 2013 11:06 pm

BTW, probably one for the SANFL History thread, but noticed today that on PF day that the 6 senior teams still alive (3 league, 3 reserves) all came from different clubs. Probably be the first time in a while that that's happened. Even though it may not speak to the evenness of the (league) competition, it does indicate that most clubs have some decent depth in their squads.

Very impressively even reserves finals series too (to go with an almost-too-even minor round), with margins being 3, 32, 5, 8 & 10 points in the 5 matches played.
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Re: 2013 SANFL RESERVES GRAND FINAL - Eagles vs Glenelg

Postby eaglehaslanded » Sun Sep 29, 2013 11:25 pm

The two teams have played each other on 2 occasions in the regular season, the Eagles winning comfortably both times.The Eagles deserve this one so much. Having clearly been the best side all year, finishing on top of the ladder by 5 games. That doesn't mean much on Grand Final day though.

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Re: 2013 SANFL RESERVES GRAND FINAL - Eagles vs Glenelg

Postby eaglehaslanded » Sun Sep 29, 2013 11:33 pm

Just out of interest, what is the rule regards qualification to play in this game.
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Re: 2013 SANFL RESERVES GRAND FINAL - Eagles vs Glenelg

Postby Spargo » Mon Sep 30, 2013 5:29 am

I wouldn't think Parry qualifies.
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Re: 2013 SANFL RESERVES GRAND FINAL - Eagles vs Glenelg

Postby Ecky » Mon Sep 30, 2013 10:44 am

eaglehaslanded wrote:Just out of interest, what is the rule regards qualification to play in this game.

One of the most elusive documents at the SANFL with many contradictory decisions over the years!

Are any of the Eagles players who played League in the 1st Semi Final available to play?
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Re: 2013 SANFL RESERVES GRAND FINAL - Eagles vs Glenelg

Postby Willo » Mon Sep 30, 2013 1:14 pm

Apparently not!

The rule really is stuffed. Guys like Carey (played all year in Reserves but played 1st Semi League) and Martyn (played 3 league games) are two who are being refused the opportunity to go back to Reserves. But someone like Byron Sumner who played all year in League, goes to Reserves for one game is allowed to play. How is that fair, no common sense!

Every year the same crap decisions are made!
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Re: 2013 SANFL RESERVES GRAND FINAL - Eagles vs Glenelg

Postby Big Phil » Mon Sep 30, 2013 1:20 pm

Willo wrote:Apparently not!

The rule really is stuffed. Guys like Carey (played all year in Reserves but played 1st Semi League) and Martyn (played 3 league games) are two who are being refused the opportunity to go back to Reserves. But someone like Byron Sumner who played all year in League, goes to Reserves for one game is allowed to play. How is that fair, no common sense!

Every year the same crap decisions are made!

Exactly the same thing happened to Josh Waldhuter from Central the year before last...
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Re: 2013 SANFL RESERVES GRAND FINAL - Eagles vs Glenelg

Postby Spargo » Mon Sep 30, 2013 1:36 pm

IMHO the rule should be if you played more reserves than league games, you qualify. No matter what part of the season you played them.
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Re: 2013 SANFL RESERVES GRAND FINAL - Eagles vs Glenelg

Postby FlyingHigh » Mon Sep 30, 2013 1:45 pm

von Bertouch would be another. Played probably 5 games towards end of season, and got dropped for the QF before playing 1st semi.

Guess it happens to every club each year, but they are three blokes who have pretty much been reserves players this year.
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Re: 2013 SANFL RESERVES GRAND FINAL - Eagles vs Glenelg

Postby Ecky » Mon Sep 30, 2013 1:52 pm

Another well known (at Glenelg anyway) example is Lachie McGregor playing his first League game in 2009 in the Preliminary Final (had 5 possessions) but not being eligible for the Reserves Grand Final the following week.

The biggest issue is that eligibility for Reserves finals depends on when your League team is knocked out. This year, E Gill, Gamble, Carger and Milne played League for Glenelg in Glenelg's last League game (round 23) but WERE eligible to play in the reserves final the following week.

But guys like McGregor and those Eagles blokes also played the last League game for their club but WEREN'T eligible to play in the reserves finals the following week, just because that League game was a final!
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Re: 2013 SANFL RESERVES GRAND FINAL - Eagles vs Glenelg

Postby FlyingHigh » Mon Sep 30, 2013 2:06 pm

Doesn't feel like any club would in this day and age, but the rule encourages stacking, rather than discourages it.

Spargo's thought is the simplest and probably best given they can't come up with a suitable alternative.

The Eagles obviously also stand to benefit from playing Sumner, which as Willo pointed out is just as much of a injustice as the three lads missing out.
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Re: 2013 SANFL RESERVES GRAND FINAL - Eagles vs Glenelg

Postby heater31 » Mon Sep 30, 2013 2:16 pm

Would have thought if your first team is out you would have to name it regardless to select your 2nd team.
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Re: 2013 SANFL RESERVES GRAND FINAL - Eagles vs Glenelg

Postby maxyoz » Mon Sep 30, 2013 8:00 pm

PhilH or BigPhil - are Life or RPH calling the Reserves game on radio? I remember it being done a few years ago.
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Re: 2013 SANFL RESERVES GRAND FINAL - Eagles vs Glenelg

Postby Aerie » Mon Sep 30, 2013 8:03 pm

heater31 wrote:Would have thought if your first team is out you would have to name it regardless to select your 2nd team.


Yep, exactly. Unlucky for the individuals but the Reserves should be the 2nd 21, not just a heap of people you could pick because they played x number of games.
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Re: 2013 SANFL RESERVES GRAND FINAL - Eagles vs Glenelg

Postby Big Phil » Mon Sep 30, 2013 8:52 pm

maxyoz wrote:PhilH or BigPhil - are Life or RPH calling the Reserves game on radio? I remember it being done a few years ago.

No, mate, neither RPH or LifeFM are calling the Reserves Grand Final (I remember calling the last quarter on LifeFM back in 2009)...

But, as was the case last year, myself and Don Cooper will be calling the game for the SANFL web site's LIVE streaming of the game...

PhilH and John Nankivell, as per 2012, will be calling all the action in the Under 18's Maccas Cup Grand Final as well, from 9:05pm...
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Re: 2013 SANFL RESERVES GRAND FINAL - Eagles vs Glenelg

Postby MightyEagles » Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:38 am

They mispronounced a couple of players in the u18s last year.
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Re: 2013 SANFL RESERVES GRAND FINAL - Eagles vs Glenelg

Postby Big Phil » Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:45 am

MightyEagles wrote:They mispronounced a couple of players in the u18s last year.

Well, as you are closer to the team than most, if you want to clarify any pronounciations they may have trouble with, I can pass them on the boys to make sure that they get them right this year...
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