HFL Division 1 (Central)

[norm11]

Would dropping the under 15s and having under under 13s and under 17s only help out the clubs struggling to fill the 3 sides

I can see where you're coming from but by dropping U/15's you potentially have 13 year olds playing against 18 year olds which can't be any good. Maybe making the junior grades U/14's and U/17''s might work better.

Sorry, yes that's what I was suppose to say.

[always there]

Re: HFL Central
Thanks Cracka, I thought that would be the feeling of the boys. Maybe Uraidlas zoned SANFL club needs to do more work with them and help them to make the club more attractive to junior players not just to the senior players.

[Gervais]

The club I admire over the past 2 years is Lofty who have said no to paying players but I know from the members there I talk to that the club is a much better place to be around.

if you believe that lofty arent paying players then you probably also believe in the easter bunny. true, they arent paying the the stupid amounts they did when they won their premierships, but they still pay. plus, they have a very generous incentive scheme that pays well for best player and for wins.

[Alaska]

The club I admire over the past 2 years is Lofty who have said no to paying players but I know from the members there I talk to that the club is a much better place to be around.

if you believe that lofty arent paying players then you probably also believe in the easter bunny. true, they arent paying the the stupid amounts they did when they won their premierships, but they still pay. plus, they have a very generous incentive scheme that pays well for best player and for wins.

Which I think is a better idea anyway.

[chopper7]

The club I admire over the past 2 years is Lofty who have said no to paying players but I know from the members there I talk to that the club is a much better place to be around.

if you believe that lofty arent paying players then you probably also believe in the easter bunny. true, they arent paying the the stupid amounts they did when they won their premierships, but they still pay. plus, they have a very generous incentive scheme that pays well for best player and for wins.

Which I think is a better idea anyway.

So Sam Miles who played league footy last year came back to play for absolutely nothing?? Your kidding yourself you peanut.........

[Droversdog]

The discussions here of late are well worth reading. Yes I think the common denominator is that we all agree money is killing country football. A prime example was United Eagles now defunct. I am aware people got sick of their problems years ago and tuned out but their demise really does illustrate the point. How was it that a town of around 200 people managed to recruit players for 5 teams within 5 years of formation? Their juniors were U14s, U17s and U10s if I recall. The A grade finished 4th in their 4th year of inception which was pretty well unheard of and the U17s made the Grand Final. Under 14s won a Premiership under Larry Watson and I was the parent of one very proud kid. The answer is that there was never any money involved. The clubs first and second Presidents (one male, one female) resisted paying any player one cent. The committee were unanamious, supporters and players knew it and came from everywhere.
Then greedy people with stupid ideas took over and evicted what they thought was conservative management. Most had never been involved at a footy club before and wanted Premierships and firedrums and brought their own drinks in the boot. They sat on the committee and never did anything of value themselves. And so the 60 goal hidings began.
I personally didn't want my kids around this mess and we took our footys and went elsewhere when we found a player was being paid $600 a game to stand in the goalsquare and never attend training because he was a big name.
Sorry for the rant. Enough said.

[Boundary rider]

Re: HFL Central
Thanks Cracka, I thought that would be the feeling of the boys. Maybe Uraidlas zoned SANFL club needs to do more work with them and help them to make the club more attractive to junior players not just to the senior players.

Sorry AT but an SANFL Development Co-ordinators job is to introduce kids to football through their school and encourage them to join their local club wherever it may be. It's up to the club to create an environment kids want to stay and play football at through culture and suitable coaches. The buck stops at the club, don't try and pass the blame.

[always there]

Not passing any blame if you read back you will find that I feel it is a club issue. It was just a suggestion to Uraidla that they might search help from their SANFL club to assist them in finding a way to create a welcoming culture. As I have said other clubs in small towns have fantastic junior programs and field teams. I know what SANFL development officers job is but clearly they need help at this club. I have nothing to do with Uraidla so why would I want to pass any blame.

[The Panther]

So the assumption is that Uraidla has a bad junior culture and this is based on what ?

[cracka]

So the assumption is that Uraidla has a bad junior culture and this is based on what ?

Don't think its a culture issue as Uraidla & surrounds are one of the most tight nit communities.

[Sniper]

So the assumption is that Uraidla has a bad junior culture and this is based on what ?

Is it true one of their junior coaches was evicted by security during the 1/2 time break in the A Grade GF at Loby Oval on Saturday ?

[always there]

No assumption panther, just observations on comments and their situation. Suggestions being made on how to help. Few defensive replies.

[On The Pine]

The discussions here of late are well worth reading. Yes I think the common denominator is that we all agree money is killing country football. A prime example was United Eagles now defunct. I am aware people got sick of their problems years ago and tuned out but their demise really does illustrate the point. How was it that a town of around 200 people managed to recruit players for 5 teams within 5 years of formation? Their juniors were U14s, U17s and U10s if I recall. The A grade finished 4th in their 4th year of inception which was pretty well unheard of and the U17s made the Grand Final. Under 14s won a Premiership under Larry Watson and I was the parent of one very proud kid. The answer is that there was never any money involved. The clubs first and second Presidents (one male, one female) resisted paying any player one cent. The committee were unanamious, supporters and players knew it and came from everywhere.
Then greedy people with stupid ideas took over and evicted what they thought was conservative management. Most had never been involved at a footy club before and wanted Premierships and firedrums and brought their own drinks in the boot. They sat on the committee and never did anything of value themselves. And so the 60 goal hidings began.
I personally didn't want my kids around this mess and we took our footys and went elsewhere when we found a player was being paid $600 a game to stand in the goalsquare and never attend training because he was a big name.
Sorry for the rant. Enough said.

Unfortunately you're kidding yourself if you don't think that paying players isn't a necessity these days. The clubs that don't need to still do, meaning the rest HAVE to just to try to be competitive. 20 years ago was a different story. Just wondering though what club you are at now? I assume they don't pay players then?

[FairDinkum]

Sniper, not sure if the Uraidla person evicted is a junior coach but it looked like the off duty umpires (in their off field gear) approached security and had him removed, abusive behaviour at least I think? He stood outside the gates watching his younger brother win the game for Uraidla in his fair and skilful style. The evicted brother needs to pull his head in and take a leaf out of his kid brothers book.

[Sniper]

Sniper, not sure if the Uraidla person evicted is a junior coach but it looked like the off duty umpires (in their off field gear) approached security and had him removed, abusive behaviour at least I think? He stood outside the gates watching his younger brother win the game for Uraidla in his fair and skilful style. The evicted brother needs to pull his head in and take a leaf out of his kid brothers book.

Excellent comment on Paul Richards .... in his last 2 Grand Finals (2011 & 2013) has changed the outcome of the game with best on ground performances (generally moving from a skillful wingman to a high leaping ruckman). How many other Hills players over the years have displayed this level of dominance on the big day that counts ?

[Droversdog]

The discussions here of late are well worth reading. Yes I think the common denominator is that we all agree money is killing country football. A prime example was United Eagles now defunct. I am aware people got sick of their problems years ago and tuned out but their demise really does illustrate the point. How was it that a town of around 200 people managed to recruit players for 5 teams within 5 years of formation? Their juniors were U14s, U17s and U10s if I recall. The A grade finished 4th in their 4th year of inception which was pretty well unheard of and the U17s made the Grand Final. Under 14s won a Premiership under Larry Watson and I was the parent of one very proud kid. The answer is that there was never any money involved. The clubs first and second Presidents (one male, one female) resisted paying any player one cent. The committee were unanamious, supporters and players knew it and came from everywhere.
Then greedy people with stupid ideas took over and evicted what they thought was conservative management. Most had never been involved at a footy club before and wanted Premierships and firedrums and brought their own drinks in the boot. They sat on the committee and never did anything of value themselves. And so the 60 goal hidings began.
I personally didn't want my kids around this mess and we took our footys and went elsewhere when we found a player was being paid $600 a game to stand in the goalsquare and never attend training because he was a big name.
Sorry for the rant. Enough said.

Unfortunately you're kidding yourself if you don't think that paying players isn't a necessity these days. The clubs that don't need to still do, meaning the rest HAVE to just to try to be competitive. 20 years ago was a different story. Just wondering though what club you are at now? I assume they don't pay players then?

No I'm not kidding myself OTP I was just trying to make a point about the importance of the club environment in terms of attracting juniors because kids came from everywhere in the early years of Eagles including my boys. Only my youngest plays junior footy these days so have followed him to the club of his choice because his mates were there. He will be overage soon and an average player. In answer to your question we have connected with a club within our reach where no-one gets paid.

[Droversdog]

The discussions here of late are well worth reading. Yes I think the common denominator is that we all agree money is killing country football. A prime example was United Eagles now defunct. I am aware people got sick of their problems years ago and tuned out but their demise really does illustrate the point. How was it that a town of around 200 people managed to recruit players for 5 teams within 5 years of formation? Their juniors were U14s, U17s and U10s if I recall. The A grade finished 4th in their 4th year of inception which was pretty well unheard of and the U17s made the Grand Final. Under 14s won a Premiership under Larry Watson and I was the parent of one very proud kid. The answer is that there was never any money involved. The clubs first and second Presidents (one male, one female) resisted paying any player one cent. The committee were unanamious, supporters and players knew it and came from everywhere.
Then greedy people with stupid ideas took over and evicted what they thought was conservative management. Most had never been involved at a footy club before and wanted Premierships and firedrums and brought their own drinks in the boot. They sat on the committee and never did anything of value themselves. And so the 60 goal hidings began.
I personally didn't want my kids around this mess and we took our footys and went elsewhere when we found a player was being paid $600 a game to stand in the goalsquare and never attend training because he was a big name.
Sorry for the rant. Enough said.

Unfortunately you're kidding yourself if you don't think that paying players isn't a necessity these days. The clubs that don't need to still do, meaning the rest HAVE to just to try to be competitive. 20 years ago was a different story. Just wondering though what club you are at now? I assume they don't pay players then?

No I'm not kidding myself OTP I was just trying to make a point about the importance of the club environment in terms of attracting juniors because kids came from everywhere in the early years of Eagles including my boys. Only my youngest plays junior footy these days so have followed him to the club of his choice because his mates were there. He will be overage soon and an average player. In answer to your question we have connected with a club within our reach where no-one gets paid.

I meant to also say that my older lads dont play footy for money either and both were chased by SANFL clubs and just play in other SA leagues where they work.

[finals fever]

Any word on coaching movements for next year???

[FairDinkum]

Jezza still at Loby, Coach of the Year.

[No Respect]

Any word on coaching movements for next year???

Pottsy out at Hahndy, appointment in next 2 weeks
Nolan out at lofty, club legend Bruce Dawes a's coach