Reserves - PAFC accepts invite from SA Football Commission

[Jim05]

Port had a choice of joining the AFL or not, the day they said yes should of been the day their association with the SANFL ended. Whats happening now is what should of been done all those years ago

[The Sleeping Giant]

Try to live in the present Jim. The one where essendon and Norwood are cheats.

[Jim05]

Try to live in the present Jim. The one where essendon and Norwood are cheats.

At least Norwood gained something by cheating

[jim5112]

... Remember the 1994 Grand Final? ....

No. Do you have a lithograph of it?

[beenreal]

... Remember the 1994 Grand Final? ....

No. Do you have a lithograph of it?

Sure do. It's the year before 1995 and 1996. You know, the two opportunities Centrals had to beat Port Adelaide in a Grand Final..... but couldn't

And John Olson on behalf of the League Directors, has referenced the November "kick-out" deadline in every interview for the past month

[StrayDog]

Sure do. It's the year before 1995 and 1996. You know, the two opportunities Centrals had to beat Port Adelaide in a Grand Final..... but couldn't

Either or both clubs too close to mediocrity most of 50 seasons so, unfortunately, the only two chances.

[Panther Pack]

After a win will the Power reserves sing the power theme song or the magpies?

[sjt]

After a win will the Power reserves sing the power theme song or the magpies?

Hopefully we'll never find out.

Maybe "I want it all" by queen would be more appropriate song title.

[Jim05]

Has there been some recent negotiations?
Tredrea indicated today that Port will agree next week and they didnt get everything they wanted but the SANFL also didnt get their demands. He said the outcome was one that should satisfy Port and keep the supporters happy

[PhilH]

Which Port supporters?

I suspect Tredder's means great for PAFC from AFL perspective maybe but end of era for Magpies as they currently work.

Interesting that whilst the PAFC appear to be saying nothing is finalised
and
media articles talk about Magpies being saved for one more year (like how does bringing in all the Power surplus players and getting rid of 23yo and older Magpie players is "saved" I can't fathom.)

.........the fans know better.


Well done to the Magpies on the win today.

[Aerie]

Yes, it all depends which way you look at it.

My feeling is the majority realise the Port Adelaide Football Club is judged by what they do on the national stage and realise that the Magpies being used to assist in player development is more beneficial to the club than the status quo.

Because of the history they have in the SANFL and the importance of this history to the culture of the club, I think they'll continue to do everything possible to maintain it in some way via the team they'll have playing in the Magpies guernsey in the SANFL. They won't want to be easy beats, and will realise that there will need to be handicaps in place to ensure they are not too strong given the advantages that go with having the majority of the team as AFL listed players.

It would be up to the club to decide how important the current Magpie below-league structure is to the overall well-being of the club and how much effort they go to to ensure this is preserved.

Those Magpie-only supporters who are against the AFL are probably following the wrong club and have done so since their club decided the AFL was the competition they wanted to be in. Yes, you do feel for these individuals, but the writing is on the wall.

The other 8 SANFL clubs and its supporters need to ensure they are strong enough to continue to beat whatever Port Adelaide form is put on the park. They have been pretty good at it since the turn of the century.

It is up to the 8 SANFL club members to ensure their SANFL club keeps the SANFL and the two AFL clubs and the competition honest from this point on. Again, the majority of those appointed to be in charge of their club thought it was better for their club and the competition to include the AFL Reserves teams in the SANFL. Yes, there are obvious downsides, but they considered that the benefits outweigh the negatives of what was going to happen in the short term anyway.

Those members that walk away from their own SANFL club are going to do the most damage. The same type of damage that the members who walked away after 1991 did. If it makes you feel morally superior by walking away then good for you. I'll still support the players who put on the Eagle guernsey and bust their gut to ensure a victory against any opposition. At the same time this is a wake up call to ensure I keep in touch with the Board of my club to see what the future plans are and ensure they are doing everything possible to make sure my club is the strongest it can be and the competition it plays in is the strongest it can be.

[The Sleeping Giant]

Those members that walk away from their own SANFL club are going to do the most damage. The same type of damage that the members who walked away after 1991 did. If it makes you feel morally superior by walking away then good for you.

So wrong Aerie.

[RB]

Those members that walk away from their own SANFL club are going to do the most damage. The same type of damage that the members who walked away after 1991 did.

This is nothing like 1990 IMO. Whatever you think about the merger, at least in 1990 Torrens, for financial reasons, didn't have much choice. In 2013, the WWTFC have complete choice, but are voluntarily choosing to take it up the backside from the Crows, and the resultant loss of opportunity to recruit new fans that goes with it.

[Panther Pack]

Interesting article from Rucci yesterday:

This section in particular caught my attention.

"But ultimately the "One Club" agenda has to be fulfilled, along with the true potential of the Port Adelaide Football Club.

After 16 years of a messy co-existence between the Power and Magpies the time has come for one club, one jumper, one nickname, one club song so that the theme "Power to rule" can be lived without compromise."

Wonder if this will happen!

[UK Fan]

Yes, it all depends which way you look at it.

My feeling is the majority realise the Port Adelaide Football Club is judged by what they do on the national stage and realise that the Magpies being used to assist in player development is more beneficial to the club than the status quo.

Because of the history they have in the SANFL and the importance of this history to the culture of the club, I think they'll continue to do everything possible to maintain it in some way via the team they'll have playing in the Magpies guernsey in the SANFL. They won't want to be easy beats, and will realise that there will need to be handicaps in place to ensure they are not too strong given the advantages that go with having the majority of the team as AFL listed players.

It would be up to the club to decide how important the current Magpie below-league structure is to the overall well-being of the club and how much effort they go to to ensure this is preserved.

Those Magpie-only supporters who are against the AFL are probably following the wrong club and have done so since their club decided the AFL was the competition they wanted to be in. Yes, you do feel for these individuals, but the writing is on the wall.

The other 8 SANFL clubs and its supporters need to ensure they are strong enough to continue to beat whatever Port Adelaide form is put on the park. They have been pretty good at it since the turn of the century.

It is up to the 8 SANFL club members to ensure their SANFL club keeps the SANFL and the two AFL clubs and the competition honest from this point on. Again, the majority of those appointed to be in charge of their club thought it was better for their club and the competition to include the AFL Reserves teams in the SANFL. Yes, there are obvious downsides, but they considered that the benefits outweigh the negatives of what was going to happen in the short term anyway.

Those members that walk away from their own SANFL club are going to do the most damage. The same type of damage that the members who walked away after 1991 did. If it makes you feel morally superior by walking away then good for you. I'll still support the players who put on the Eagle guernsey and bust their gut to ensure a victory against any opposition. At the same time this is a wake up call to ensure I keep in touch with the Board of my club to see what the future plans are and ensure they are doing everything possible to make sure my club is the strongest it can be and the competition it plays in is the strongest it can be.

Ditto for those who think they are better fans for being a walk-over.

[StrayDog]

.... At the same time this is a wake up call to ensure I keep in touch with the Board of my club to see what the future plans are and ensure they are doing everything possible to make sure my club is the strongest it can be and the competition it plays in is the strongest it can be.

Gate, horse, bolted. Curious usage of the word "ensure", I might add.

[saintal]

From the port members night (online blog provided on their website)

- KT basically telling the members that the SANFL will revoke the Maggies license, so club left with no option (bluff on KT's behalf??)
- No age cap on players in league side.
- The proposed structure that the SANFL has submitted to the PAFC board to vote on is as follows:

AFL (Power and 'V')
SANFL (Magpies and prisonbars)
Magpies Academy
[[2014 only]] Current Magpies junior structure
[[2015 on]] Country and Indigenous development program
[[2015 on]] International/multicultural pathway programs
[[2015 on]] Father/son academy (past players from AFL and SANFL)

- Junior structure to be established in SAAFL if needed.
- Crowd lapping it up by the sounds of it.
- Home games at Alberton
- Loss of recruiting zones as such, but it's open slather for "academy" list recruiting, as long as player is under 22. These players cant play in the league team though. Only ressies. Target for them is to join the "top up" list the following season.
- 15 top up players for the league team. (what happens if not picked for league? Play in the academy team presumably?)
- No talk of $$$- only that Port wont receive a dividend like the other 8 SANFL clubs.
- KT is good at spin.

[Lynwood]

- KT basically telling the members that the SANFL will revoke the Maggies license, so club left with no option (bluff on KT's behalf??)

- KT is good at spin.

Still have seen no proof that the SANFL will 100% revoke the licence. Only going on the word of a few on that issue.

One thing that I can not get my head around is Power fans blaming the SANFL for the last 16 years for keeping the Magpies in 97 when the club did not want them. Now we hear them blaming the SANFL for not wanting the Magpies based on rumors.

[therisingblues]

- KT basically telling the members that the SANFL will revoke the Maggies license, so club left with no option (bluff on KT's behalf??)

- KT is good at spin.

Still have seen no proof that the SANFL will 100% revoke the licence. Only going on the word of a few on that issue.

One thing that I can not get my head around is Power fans blaming the SANFL for the last 16 years for keeping the Magpies in 97 when the club did not want them. Now we hear them blaming the SANFL for not wanting the Magpies based on rumors.

Whatever/whoever is to blame, the SANFL will be the poorer without the true Magpies.
Condolences to you and all in your situation Lynwood.

[Hazel]

From the port members night (online blog provided on their website)

- KT basically telling the members that the SANFL will revoke the Maggies license, so club left with no option (bluff on KT's behalf??)
- No age cap on players in league side.
- The proposed structure that the SANFL has submitted to the PAFC board to vote on is as follows:

AFL (Power and 'V')
SANFL (Magpies and prisonbars)
Magpies Academy
[[2014 only]] Current Magpies junior structure
[[2015 on]] Country and Indigenous development program
[[2015 on]] International/multicultural pathway programs
[[2015 on]] Father/son academy (past players from AFL and SANFL)

- Junior structure to be established in SAAFL if needed.
- Crowd lapping it up by the sounds of it.
- Home games at Alberton
- Loss of recruiting zones as such, but it's open slather for "academy" list recruiting, as long as player is under 22. These players cant play in the league team though. Only ressies. Target for them is to join the "top up" list the following season.
- 15 top up players for the league team. (what happens if not picked for league? Play in the academy team presumably?)
- No talk of $$$- only that Port wont receive a dividend like the other 8 SANFL clubs.
- KT is good at spin.

I was told by a board member tonight the league "top up players" will be capped at $400 a game and the "Academy" at $100 I would think anyone decent will be grabbed by other SANFL clubs or Country teams... The cap was placed on by the other league clubs.