Essendon 2013

[Jim05]

F*uck i really hope ASADA do start handing out infraction notices, the day after Essendon sign off on their punishment with the AFL would be the perfect timing.
I don't think it was sloppy management Jim, i reckon it was very deliberate to not record anything so that nothing could be pinned on them. That's worked a treat by the way

Just wish Dank would cop a whack aswell, he seems to have avoided all punishment so far

[daysofourlives]

F*uck i really hope ASADA do start handing out infraction notices, the day after Essendon sign off on their punishment with the AFL would be the perfect timing.
I don't think it was sloppy management Jim, i reckon it was very deliberate to not record anything so that nothing could be pinned on them. That's worked a treat by the way

Just wish Dank would cop a whack aswell, he seems to have avoided all punishment so far

Would there be any criminal charges still coming?
Might be where he get's his whack

[gadj1976]

I actually feel for Doc Reid. I really don't think he has anything to answer for.

The rest, phhtt, stuff 'em.

[dedja]

I can't understand what the Doc did wrong ...

[Turbo]

The bombers will pay, as they should for what ever they may have done.

Cheating, I believe.

If ASADA find us guilty ill cop it
Until infraction notices are given we are guilty of nothing more than sloppy management

With the final report will come the infraction notices

[Johno6]

A final decision won't be made till 5 mins after bombers last game of season next week.

[Jim05]

A final decision won't be made till 5 mins after bombers last game of season next week.

Yes strategically planned by the AFL.
I think the AFL got wind of the proposed boycott of the game by the supporters groups and the club stating they will field a severely depleted side if they are playing for nothing.
Dont think they would want a game on prime time Saturday night between Richmond and Essendon to have only 40-50,000.
Essendon v Carlton usually averages 65,000-70,000 and about 54,000 turned up last night. Quite a bit of lost revenue and id imagine it would be worse this week

[Hondo]

Unfortunately for the Doc after writing his letter he stayed on and appears to have deliberately turned a blind eye to things he knew were happening to his players and in some cases he gave his professional approval. He expressed all those concerns but then went along with it anyway. Cult Hird must have got him

That's from my read of the charge sheet. Like I said earlier he should have resigned if he felt so strongly about it or reported it to outside parties.

[dedja]

A final decision won't be made till 5 mins after bombers last game of season next week.

Yes strategically planned by the AFL.
I think the AFL got wind of the proposed boycott of the game by the supporters groups and the club stating they will field a severely depleted side if they are playing for nothing.
Dont think they would want a game on prime time Saturday night between Richmond and Essendon to have only 40-50,000.
Essendon v Carlton usually averages 65,000-70,000 and about 54,000 turned up last night. Quite a bit of lost revenue and id imagine it would be worse this week

Not one of you best pieces of work.

Essendon are bent over, pants down and cheeks spread at he minute ... definitely in no position to dictate anything.

[Jim05]

A final decision won't be made till 5 mins after bombers last game of season next week.

Yes strategically planned by the AFL.
I think the AFL got wind of the proposed boycott of the game by the supporters groups and the club stating they will field a severely depleted side if they are playing for nothing.
Dont think they would want a game on prime time Saturday night between Richmond and Essendon to have only 40-50,000.
Essendon v Carlton usually averages 65,000-70,000 and about 54,000 turned up last night. Quite a bit of lost revenue and id imagine it would be worse this week

Not one of you best pieces of work.

Essendon are bent over, pants down and cheeks spread at he minute ... definitely in no position to dictate anything.

Not dictating anything, just a fact.
The crowd was severely down last night and id imagine it would be far worse next week if there is definately nothing to play for.
Also no point playing half the side, put them in for surgery early like the other sides out of finals action have.
Ive said all along that the decision would be conveniently made at seasons end so the crowds didnt drop off.
I think they have known the penalty for weeks
Im sure plenty of others will agree

[dedja]

I highly doubt it ... it's the elephant in the room and everyone knows that you'll lose your points, so best to get it over and done with this week, so that those sides fighting for 9th spot have some surety.

It will be a complete farce if the 9th team is admitted to the finals after the round.

[Jim05]

I highly doubt it ... it's the elephant in the room and everyone knows that you'll lose your points, so best to get it over and done with this week, so that those sides fighting for 9th spot have some surety.

It will be a complete farce if the 9th team is admitted to the finals after the round.

I agree completely.
Just get it done

[the wonder elephant]

I highly doubt it ... it's the elephant in the room and everyone knows that you'll lose your points, so best to get it over and done with this week, so that those sides fighting for 9th spot have some surety.

It will be a complete farce if the 9th team is admitted to the finals after the round.

I agree completely.
Just get it done

yes the elephants are in the room

[Booney]

I can't understand what the Doc did wrong ...

He didn't do enough to stop it. His letter to Hird and Hamilton clearly shows he wasn't happy with the situation.

[Strawb]

Pinched from Facebook
My Essendon Lie – By James Hird - (To the tune of American Pie)

[Intro]

A long, long time ago
I can still remember how Shane Charters used to make me smile
And I knew if I had my chance
That I could make my players dance
And maybe they'd be stronger for a while

But 2013 made me shiver
With every paper that was delivered
Barratt on my doorstep
I couldn't take one more step

I can't remember if I cried
When I read about how they proved I lied
But something touched me deep inside
The day my fiction, died

[Chorus]

So bye-bye, to my Essendon Lie
Took my Bombers to the top, and built up our pride
And my good old boys injectin’ another peptide
Singin' "No-one will ever know that we lied
No-one will ever know that we lied"

[Verse 1]

Did you write the book of push & shove
And do you have faith in Demetriou above
If the AFL tells you so?
Now do you believe in 9604,
And how drugs save your football soul
And can you teach me how to inject real slow?

Well, you know that I was in love with Dank
Since I saw him injectin’ out the back
We both beefed up our tans
To show off to all our fans

I was a lonely rookie coachin' buck
With a Brownlow medal and a million bucks
But I knew I was out of luck
The day they found I lied

[Chorus]

I started singin' bye-bye, to my Essendon Lie
Took my Bombers to the top, but then our hamstrings died
And my good old boys injectin’ another peptide
Singin' "Hope they never find out we lied
Hope they never find out we lied"

[Verse 2]

Now for ten games we've been out on our own
With hidden texts on my mobile phone
But that's not how it used to be
When the rumours came that we weren’t clean
When in truth we were as high as James Dean
“But the drugs came from Dank, not me”

And while me, the king, was counting cash
ASADA found my hidden stash
The courtroom was adjourned
Until the ASADA verdict was returned

And while Sam Newman read a book from FARC
The media stakeout in the park
And we injected in the dark
The day our dreams died

[Chorus]

We were singin' bye-bye, to my Essendon Lie
Took my Bombers to the top, but no-one knew why
And my good old boys injectin’ another peptide
Singin' "Do you think that the media has spied?
Do you think that the media has spied?"

[Verse 3]

Helter skelter in a winter swelter
The wheels fell off in another belter
Eighth place now and falling fast
Another player lying on the grass
A hamstring sprung trying a short pass
Another player on the sidelines in a cast

Now the premiership air is sweet perfume
While Meatloaf sings an awful tune
We’d all love the September dance
Oh, but we’ll never get the chance

'Cause if the players try to take the field
Will ASADA refuse to yield?
Will we ever really know what was revealed
The day my dream died?

[Chorus]

We were singin' bye-bye, to my Essendon Lie
Took my Bombers to the top, but then David Evans cried
And my good old boys injectin’ another peptide
Singin' "ASADA’s looking and I’d better go hide
ASADA’s looking and I’d better go hide."

Oh, and there we were all in one place
An entire season lost in space
With no chance left to start again
So come on, Jobe be nimble, Jobe be quick
Watson sat “On the Couch” real quick
('Cause Roosy is the Demon’s only friend)

Oh, and as I watched him on the stage
My hands were clenched in fists of rage
No angel born in Hell
Could break that Roosy spell

And as the ratings climbed high into the night
To light the sacrificial rite
I saw Roosy laughing with delight
That’s when, they knew, I lied

[Chorus]

He was singin' bye-bye, to my Essendon Lie
Took my Bombers to the top, but our success was a lie
And my good old boys injectin’ another peptide
Singin' "Now our premiership dreams are fried
Now our premiership dreams are fried "

I asked my girl who hates the Blues
And I asked her for some happy news
But she just smiled and turned away
I went down to the AFL store
Where they all loved me years before
But the man there said that finals, we wouldn't play

And in Bay 13, the Bombers screamed
The Magpies cried and the Hawks all dreamed
But not a word was spoken
The servers all were broken

And the three men I admire most
The Demetriou, The Dank and the Charters Ghost
They caught the last train for the coast
The day they’d found I’d lied

And they were singin' bye-bye, to my Essendon Lie
Took my Bombers to the top, but then our hamstrings died
And my good old boys injectin’ another peptide
Singin' "I can’t believe they found out we lied
About ever having seen a peptide”

[Chorus]

They were singin' bye-bye, to my Essendon Lie
Took my Bombers to the top, but then our hamstrings died
And my good old boys injectin’ another peptide
Singin' "I can’t believe they found out we lied”

[gossipgirl]

that is GOLD

[Jim05]

that is GOLD

Yep, someone with a lot of time on their hands.
Always good to have a laugh when the times are tough

[The Chump is here...]

Just a thought: Firstly i am an Essendon supporter and this is not a whinge, but just an opinion and happy for people to prove me wrong or add some facts.

I can't see why Essendon should be stripped of their points. Have they cheated? From all reports no, the drugs injected were not prohibited at the time. Therefore what is the difference between Brisbane injecting IVF Drips at half time back in late 90's early 00's. Did they ever receive punishment for that? i cant recall any sanctions just a letter asking them to stop such practice.

Dont get me wrong Hird and Others should get their whack, but on the facts provided (albeit the ones detialed in the media) i can't see how they can justify stripping points.

[Johno6]

Just a thought: Firstly i am an Essendon supporter and this is not a whinge, but just an opinion and happy for people to prove me wrong or add some facts.

I can't see why Essendon should be stripped of their points. Have they cheated? From all reports no, the drugs injected were not prohibited at the time. Therefore what is the difference between Brisbane injecting IVF Drips at half time back in late 90's early 00's. Did they ever receive punishment for that? i cant recall any sanctions just a letter asking them to stop such practice.

Dont get me wrong Hird and Others should get their whack, but on the facts provided (albeit the ones detialed in the media) i can't see how they can justify stripping points.

wrong account??

[gossipgirl]

that is GOLD

Yep, someone with a lot of time on their hands.
Always good to have a laugh when the times are tough

dont worry be happy I'm sure the AFL wont penalise a victorian club much at all