Reserves - PAFC accepts invite from SA Football Commission

[heater31]

From Keith Thomas today:

Dear Members and Supporters,

The past few weeks have been consumed by the debate as to whether or not the two Adelaide AFL Clubs should be allowed to enter support teams into the SANFL competition, and if so, what conditions should be applied to ensure that such a move benefits all parties concerned.

Since my last CEO update, a few significant developments have occurred.

-The Adelaide Football Club has been granted entry into the SANFL, under a set of conditions which they have agreed to.

- The SANFL has informed Port Adelaide that it is in a position to invite us to promote a PAFC support team on the same terms and conditions as those applied to the Adelaide Football Club. Such approval would require Port Adelaide to dismantle its junior program and recruitment zone, and embrace the top up system as applied to AFC. It has requested that we indicate whether we wish to enter a team under those conditions.

We have responded to the SANFL, reaffirming that we would not be prepared to enter a PAFC support team in the SANFL under the same conditions as the Adelaide Football Club, preferring to maintain our status quo position for season 2014.

We are still seeking to create a future Port Adelaide structure that achieves the following:

- Provides our Club with the best possible chance to win AFL premierships.
- Ensures that the Magpies are retained, fiercely competitive and intent on winning premierships.
- Provides a pathway for junior footballers to develop their skills and love of the game at Port Adelaide, enabling them to ultimately realise their dream of playing league football for the Magpies, or if they are good enough, get drafted into the AFL competition.

Next Steps
The SANFL and its Clubs need to decide whether they wish to invite us to re-join their competition under a new set of Port Adelaide-specific conditions which would enable us to achieve the above criteria.

If not, we will prepare for season 2014 to be status quo as previously stated, and use next year to develop an alternative plan for season 2015 and beyond.

My respect for Port has gone up a little.
If they hadn't pulled all those tricks earlier in the season, and if some of their fans weren't so arrogant and selfish, I'd possibly take them up as my AFL side.
As it is I might find it hard to cheer for the Crows again. I may end up at Carlton.

Gold Coast is where its at Theri....

[therisingblues]

No magpies?
How sad is that... my favourite clash of the year is gone.
Definitely the end of the SANFL. It's a different league now.
AFLSA as they say...

But removing the Port Adelaide Football Club, in all its forms, from the SANFL is what most people on here want

No, Port people realising it's at their own hand is what most people here want.

To what end?

Well it's moot now that the Crows pushed the issue IMO but perhaps it would have stopped Port's hand.

[smac]

No magpies?
How sad is that... my favourite clash of the year is gone.
Definitely the end of the SANFL. It's a different league now.
AFLSA as they say...

But removing the Port Adelaide Football Club, in all its forms, from the SANFL is what most people on here want

No, Port people realising it's at their own hand is what most people here want.

To what end?

To the very end, Booney!

Port loaded the gun with their one club proposal by including only a short term licence for the Magpies.

Then they handed it to the clubs in their shabby attempt at creating a Power reserves team by stealth.

Then Kochy nudged them all under the table whilst saying "we don't want AFL reserves if we lose the Magpies".

Make all the right noises in public, yet finding a way to clear that $1.3m expense line...

[beenreal]

Port loaded the gun with their one club proposal by including only a short term licence for the Magpies.

Then they handed it to the clubs in their shabby attempt at creating a Power reserves team by stealth.

Then Kochy nudged them all under the table whilst saying "we don't want AFL reserves if we lose the Magpies".

Make all the right noises in public, yet finding a way to clear that $1.3m expense line...

So now, all of a sudden the 3-year deal was a PAFC initiative? I suppose they also asked for their vote on the Commission to be cancelled too. Not to mention the removal of the 1/9th share in Football Park.

Geez, some of you spout some SH!T

[areaman]

Well therein lies an issue. Define what a "club" is, in your view, if you will?

Does anyone really think that AFL "clubs" are really the old school definition of a club anymore.

Is Collingwood or Essendon really a footy club as they once were in the days of suburban football?

I know Port like to think of themselves as a "club" but are they really that to many people anymore?

I know it's a cute line to run that the Crows aren't a club in the same way that Port are but is it really relevant?

And how old does a "club" need to be around for before being accepted as a club? Was Port a club in your definition from day one in 1870 or did it take a few years to become that way?

Whether we like it or not all the AFL organisations have become "franchises". I know some people won't like it but it's just the sad truth of professional sport.

From my perspective ther AFL teams lost the ability to really be classified as clubs when the draft was implemented. Then they really became football organisations or franchises.

[smac]

Port loaded the gun with their one club proposal by including only a short term licence for the Magpies.

Then they handed it to the clubs in their shabby attempt at creating a Power reserves team by stealth.

Then Kochy nudged them all under the table whilst saying "we don't want AFL reserves if we lose the Magpies".

Make all the right noises in public, yet finding a way to clear that $1.3m expense line...

So now, all of a sudden the 3-year deal was a PAFC initiative? I suppose they also asked for their vote on the Commission to be cancelled too. Not to mention the removal of the 1/9th share in Football Park.

Geez, some of you spout some SH!T

Go ask who put it on the table.

[on the rails]

Port loaded the gun with their one club proposal by including only a short term licence for the Magpies.

Then they handed it to the clubs in their shabby attempt at creating a Power reserves team by stealth.

Then Kochy nudged them all under the table whilst saying "we don't want AFL reserves if we lose the Magpies".

Make all the right noises in public, yet finding a way to clear that $1.3m expense line...

So now, all of a sudden the 3-year deal was a PAFC initiative? I suppose they also asked for their vote on the Commission to be cancelled too. Not to mention the removal of the 1/9th share in Football Park.

Geez, some of you spout some SH!T

That's rich coming from you -a person who never deals with any fact!

[leftlegger]

Jeezuz!

Looks like the SANFL is in its death throws now.
Should be re-named SADFL (South Australian Development Football League)
.... or just SAD.

[Booney]

You are a tool!

Fair point Otr!!!
Schultzy is just trying deny he has blood on his hands for voting for the merger. We all know.
Only positive out or this maggies dead.
We had a party at Keith Thomas's house last week to celebrate

So the Magpies are gone, the Crows have a reserves side in the SANFL.

Finally you blokes might start to understand the value of premierships in the SANFL has diminished.....even........further.

[UK Fan]

You are a tool!

Fair point Otr!!!
Schultzy is just trying deny he has blood on his hands for voting for the merger. We all know.
Only positive out or this maggies dead.
We had a party at Keith Thomas's house last week to celebrate

So the Magpies are gone, the Crows have a reserves side in the SANFL.

Finally you blokes might start to understand the value of premierships in the SANFL has diminished.....even........further.

Agreed!!!

By the time Koch and Trigg are finished destroying SANFL for their own gain SANFL will be nothing more than a glorified ammos comp.

Exactly what AFL wants.

[areaman]

Another FACT is the PAFC is very concerned about the financial risk of dismantling the "community model" it has put in place through the One Club deal. It was hardly going to compound that risk by tabling a 3-year "kick out" option.

Ah, the "community" model - always putting others before themselves.

What a charitable organisation.

[kneedeepinthehoopla]

From Keith Thomas today:

Dear Members and Supporters,

The past few weeks have been consumed by the debate as to whether or not the two Adelaide AFL Clubs should be allowed to enter support teams into the SANFL competition, and if so, what conditions should be applied to ensure that such a move benefits all parties concerned.

Since my last CEO update, a few significant developments have occurred.

-The Adelaide Football Club has been granted entry into the SANFL, under a set of conditions which they have agreed to.

- The SANFL has informed Port Adelaide that it is in a position to invite us to promote a PAFC support team on the same terms and conditions as those applied to the Adelaide Football Club. Such approval would require Port Adelaide to dismantle its junior program and recruitment zone, and embrace the top up system as applied to AFC. It has requested that we indicate whether we wish to enter a team under those conditions.

We have responded to the SANFL, reaffirming that we would not be prepared to enter a PAFC support team in the SANFL under the same conditions as the Adelaide Football Club, preferring to maintain our status quo position for season 2014.

We are still seeking to create a future Port Adelaide structure that achieves the following:

- Provides our Club with the best possible chance to win AFL premierships.
- Ensures that the Magpies are retained, fiercely competitive and intent on winning premierships.
- Provides a pathway for junior footballers to develop their skills and love of the game at Port Adelaide, enabling them to ultimately realise their dream of playing league football for the Magpies, or if they are good enough, get drafted into the AFL competition.

Next Steps
The SANFL and its Clubs need to decide whether they wish to invite us to re-join their competition under a new set of Port Adelaide-specific conditions which would enable us to achieve the above criteria.

If not, we will prepare for season 2014 to be status quo as previously stated, and use next year to develop an alternative plan for season 2015 and beyond.

My respect for Port has gone up a little.
If they hadn't pulled all those tricks earlier in the season, and if some of their fans weren't so arrogant and selfish, I'd possibly take them up as my AFL side.
As it is I might find it hard to cheer for the Crows again. I may end up at Carlton.

We'll have ya at the real blues, aardvark boy!

[beenreal]

Another FACT is the PAFC is very concerned about the financial risk of dismantling the "community model" it has put in place through the One Club deal. It was hardly going to compound that risk by tabling a 3-year "kick out" option.

Ah, the "community" model - always putting others before themselves.

What a charitable organisation.

No, it's about US looking after OUR community. After all, it's abundantly clear no-one else will.

[therisingblues]

Cheers Kneedeeper.
First side I followed was Sturt, second was Carlton.
When the Crows came in I naturally wanted to stick it up the Vics for what they had done to the SANFL. But there was always a clash of interests when the Crows played the Blues.
Going back to the Blues seems the natural thing after the Crows have taken a royal dump on the SANFL.

[Booney]

Nice clean up mods.

[the joker]

Jimmy Meiklejohn, Sam Gray, Kory Beard & a couple of others will be hot property for other SANFL clubs during the off season then......

Sammy gray will be playing for the crows reserves/AFL sides next year

[blood bath]

Interesting article in today's Tiser. Collins throwing out the idea of all port power players being redistributed across the 9 sanfl teams as some clubs such as Sturt will be hit hard by the Crows changes, yet a club such as Norwood which has many port players wouldn't be hit as hard. Chris Davis at the SANFL said it would be looked at at the end of the year.

[on the rails]

Interesting article in today's Tiser. Collins throwing out the idea of all port power players being redistributed across the 9 sanfl teams as some clubs such as Sturt will be hit hard by the Crows changes, yet a club such as Norwood which has many port players wouldn't be hit as hard. Chris Davis at the SANFL said it would be looked at at the end of the year.

That's bullshit! The League will help another club will it? Sturt should have been smarter not have a reliance on bogging their list with 14 AFL listed players. If the PAFC choose to keep the status quo then their players already distributed out stay as they are!

If the PAFC do enter a Reserves side into the SANFL then that idea goes out the window so what will Sturt do then? Go out and recruit like other clubs have to do! FFS!

[klaan]

Interesting article in today's Tiser. Collins throwing out the idea of all port power players being redistributed across the 9 sanfl teams as some clubs such as Sturt will be hit hard by the Crows changes, yet a club such as Norwood which has many port players wouldn't be hit as hard. Chris Davis at the SANFL said it would be looked at at the end of the year.

A little misleading BB, Think the article said the agreement would be looked at at the end of the year - as it was every year? I'm with OTR.

[PhilH]

Used to follow Fiztroy (SA Colours) and Essendon (no idea why) before Crows came in.

then any interstate club (Swans, Eagles, Bears etc) that played the Vics.

I have no idea what AFL club to pick up after divorcing the Crows.

Fitzroy now in Div3 VAFA, Esssendon no way.

... maybe the Eagles (AFL version)