AFL Reserves Discussion...

[topsywaldron]

I can't agree with a system that turns a stand alone competition into glorified practice matches for a team in another league.

Maybe that's just me though.

[whufc]

I can't agree with a system that turns a stand alone competition into glorified practice matches for a team in another league.

Maybe that's just me though.

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[topsywaldron]

I've pasted this across from the Norwood Forum from SimonH who also posts here so I hope he doesn't mind...

The alternative is/was for the SANFL to sensibly, and without pressure from outside forces who have an obvious agenda other than the health of the SANFL competition, make a plan for its long-term quality and sustainability as an independent state league. If it can't do that as by far the best-attended, most-closely-followed non-AFL league in Australia, with cash at hand from licence sales and Oval redevelopments, then SA footy needs a new bunch of administrators. Of course it can be done. Or it could be, if the SA Football Commission was prepared to act in the best interest of South Australian footy, rather than in the best interest of a soon-to-be-Victorian-controlled franchise looking for a place to play its developing recruits, most of whom hail from interstate.

Genius post IMHO.

[SimonH]

Anyone else notice that this weekend just gone, 6 Crows players played SANFL league and another 2 played reserves: link (warning: contains news of a high-prestige 7-disposal game in the SANFL reserves)? And that with an injury list that sits at 7 players, no worse than average for an AFL club at this time of year. Even with the bye team being the Crows-heavy Sturt, I can tell you exactly what would have happened to any Crows reserves team that played last weekend.

Presume that the Crows reserves by July of any given year are flying high, and there's even thought of them being a strong chance to win the flag. Then think of the way that Essendon finished 2012 and 2013. And of course the AFC club establishment won't care. They don't have a dog in the SANFL premiership fight.

Edit: Goodness topsy, there's a coincidence. Yeah, I get really pissed off at people who quote me and call me 'genius'!

[Ye Olde Place Kick]

Tell ALL the clubs NOT to offer any top up players then tell them to field a side.

Heard of plenty of clubs ringing around to fill their B grade on a friday night.

[saintal]

Anyone else notice that this weekend just gone, 6 Crows players played SANFL league and another 2 played reserves: link (warning: contains news of a high-prestige 7-disposal game in the SANFL reserves)? And that with an injury list that sits at 7 players, no worse than average for an AFL club at this time of year. Even with the bye team being the Crows-heavy Sturt, I can tell you exactly what would have happened to any Crows reserves team that played last weekend.

Yeah I posted their likely team from the weekend a few pages back. Very patchy. Noticed on the news tonight that Henderson is being sent off for early surgery, so there's another player done for the year.

[Reddeer]

I can't agree with a system that turns a stand alone competition into glorified practice matches for a team in another league.

Maybe that's just me though.

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[Killa]

As a further query to Rucci's article on the weekend, if the Crows make the finals, which top-up players do they then choose? Seemingly they would come from the bottom 4 clubs, but could they choose the best? This team could then be half professional footballers, half a state side (Cross, Liddle, Wundke, Gray, Mieklejohn, Coad) up against a club side.
Why should a player be rewarded with a finals appearance when his club team wasn't good enough? Worse still, how about if the Crows needed to win to make the finals and were playing a team who couldn't, but whose players might be in line for a finals call-up to the Crows? What incentive would certain players have to try against the Crows or even make a few timely "mistakes"?

Were you at the info night FH?

I still think the top-up player system isn't ideal, but it is a good concept. I think each club should give two players at the start of the season and be done with it for the whole year. The player either plays Crows SANFL or SANFL Reserves. At this stage, each club has available two players if they want to and these players would be not at league level and reviewed each 6 weeks.

As an example of the type of player they are talking about, from the Eagles you could offer (in conjunction with the player of course) say a Jack Muirhead and Tom Schwarz. Both should be good league players down the track, but not really pushing for a regular league berth at the moment. They get a season training part time with the Crows and getting a feel of what it is like at AFL level, they are handy players as depth. They come back to the Eagles full time after a year of either playing league with the Crows and/or reserves still at the Eagles. I'm sure each club has two of these type of players you could offer up each season.

Rucci idea is the best that has been heard so far. This concept can only work if the crows has a team in the reserves. PAFC should be one club and not forced to be dismantled to be powers reserves team. So basically Rucci believes the port zone should be used as their top up players and players from other clubs are not required. And this keeps more players in the SANFL where the current proposal will see about 50 players lost without an opportunity at SANFL level, then more players missing out in the younger grades.

[Tassie Blues]

Out of interest does anyone have a final number of signatures obtained from the No AFL in SANFL petition?

[johntheclaret]

Out of interest does anyone have a final number of signatures obtained from the No AFL in SANFL petition?

4,876,214. This includes the ones I got in the UK

[Mic]

Out of interest does anyone have a final number of signatures obtained from the No AFL in SANFL petition?

4,876,214. This includes the ones I got in the UK

Yeah well through the extra coverage that the SANFL is going to get by the media/channel 7 next year, the league is going to get 5 million new supporters that wil cover that...

[Agile]

What are the chances of the afl rules being applied to the sanfl next year? With our standard of umpiring !!!
Should be hilarious

[TimmiesChin]

Well before the final vote went down there were some on here suggesting getting signatures and holding office bearers at clubs that voted against their wishes accountable.

Does anyone see this happening at any of the clubs ?

[topsywaldron]

Well before the final vote went down there were some on here suggesting getting signatures and holding office bearers at clubs that voted against their wishes accountable.

Does anyone see this happening at any of the clubs ?

It'll happen at Norwood if anywhere. More than a few members are pretty unhappy with what's happened.

The more you hear about Gordon Pickard's influence over the vote makes you realise what a rancid, grubby little process it was.

[Jim05]

Well before the final vote went down there were some on here suggesting getting signatures and holding office bearers at clubs that voted against their wishes accountable.

Does anyone see this happening at any of the clubs ?

It'll happen at Norwood if anywhere. More than a few members are pretty unhappy with what's happened.

The more you hear about Gordon Pickard's influence over the vote makes you realise what a rancid, grubby little process it was.

Yep, Honest Joe and a few others wont have anything to do with the club for much longer.
Hopefully they are booted out ASAP

[Doddy]

What are the chances of the afl rules being applied to the sanfl next year? With our standard of umpiring !!!
Should be hilarious

This is another layer on the tragedy. Many of us are at the SANFL because we prefer the way the game rolls with SANFL umpiring interpretations (even if they are not always perfectly executed!). If the AFL interpretations are applied, another segment of fans will disappear. It's a game-changer.

[Dogwatcher]

SANFL's Chris Davies to be on 891Adelaide (ABC) shortly to explain the reserves process.

[mighty_tiger_79]

SANFL's Chris Davies to be on 891Adelaide (ABC) shortly to explain the reserves process.

just tuned in
thanks for the heads up

[mighty_tiger_79]

I wonder if they will screen the calls??

[dedja]

This will be like John Hewson explaining GST on a cake ...