Craig Parry - deregistration successfully appealed

[Reddeer]

Still in shock on hearing this. Whatever your thoughts on the player, it's an unbelievably harsh penalty on the team, being one of our best players, and IMO the best ruckman in the league. They surely can't have pleaded guilty if they'd known he'd be deregistered. No matter what your thoughts are on Craig Parry, 16 wks suspension in my view doesn't merit a lifetime ban. Why on earth is it 16 in the SANFL if it's 32 in the AFL?

No it is the AFL now Just ask the Crows

[Dutchy]

While he is obviously stupid I have an issue for a rule like this that comes in retrospectively half way thru a guys career. If it came in last year then everyone should start at 0.

[dedja]

Nah, faark him.

Maybe he and his club should take more time to understand the rules.

[RB]

Still in shock on hearing this. Whatever your thoughts on the player, it's an unbelievably harsh penalty on the team, being one of our best players, and IMO the best ruckman in the league. They surely can't have pleaded guilty if they'd known he'd be deregistered. No matter what your thoughts are on Craig Parry, 16 wks suspension in my view doesn't merit a lifetime ban. Why on earth is it 16 in the SANFL if it's 32 in the AFL?

"Harsh penalty" - that's the whole idea.
"One of your better players, and maybe best ruckman in the league" - irrelevant.
This sniper has had plenty of chances.
You'll find sympathy somewhere between syphilis and suicide in the dictionary.

If you'll read my post, you'll see that I was referring to the effect of this punishment on the team here. I did not infer that this is relevant to the legitimacy or merits of the rule. Rather, I was merely pointing out that the practical consequences for the team are fairly severe.

[RB]

What was Garry McIntosh's suspension count when he won the Magarey medals?

[southee]

He has only got himself to blame! Might make him think about his cowardly acts. Has he ever hit a player in the course of play? Seems it always way off the ball / behind play? Have any of his victims ever been 180cm tall?

Yeah he head butted Keegan Brooksby from South one day when it was the TV game in front of the camera and got 4

Correct and one of the most dog acts I have seen in along time.

Brooksby was lucky not to have more damage done.

Glad to see his filthy acts catch up on him !!

[fester69]

Still in shock on hearing this. Whatever your thoughts on the player, it's an unbelievably harsh penalty on the team, being one of our best players, and IMO the best ruckman in the league. They surely can't have pleaded guilty if they'd known he'd be deregistered. No matter what your thoughts are on Craig Parry, 16 wks suspension in my view doesn't merit a lifetime ban. Why on earth is it 16 in the SANFL if it's 32 in the AFL?

"Harsh penalty" - that's the whole idea.
"One of your better players, and maybe best ruckman in the league" - irrelevant.
This sniper has had plenty of chances.
You'll find sympathy somewhere between syphilis and suicide in the dictionary.

Actually sympathy comes before both syphilis and suicide in the dictionary.

[dedja]

[FlyingHigh]

Regardless of him being an Eagles player, one issue with the SANFL having the same match penalty as amatuer and country leagues, is that things are more likely to be caught on video. There are plenty of incidents like this one in country footy that would never make it to the tribunal. Still, that's the responsibility and role-model that an SANFL player needs to take on.

[Spargo]

Still in shock on hearing this. Whatever your thoughts on the player, it's an unbelievably harsh penalty on the team, being one of our best players, and IMO the best ruckman in the league. They surely can't have pleaded guilty if they'd known he'd be deregistered. No matter what your thoughts are on Craig Parry, 16 wks suspension in my view doesn't merit a lifetime ban. Why on earth is it 16 in the SANFL if it's 32 in the AFL?

"Harsh penalty" - that's the whole idea.
"One of your better players, and maybe best ruckman in the league" - irrelevant.
This sniper has had plenty of chances.
You'll find sympathy somewhere between syphilis and suicide in the dictionary.

Actually sympathy comes before both syphilis and suicide in the dictionary.

Somewhere around, not between

[FlyingHigh]

While he is obviously stupid I have an issue for a rule like this that comes in retrospectively half way thru a guys career. If it came in last year then everyone should start at 0.

Agree Dutchy, or at least somehow weighted to reflect how long they had been playing senior footy or footy at that level.
Further, perhaps in future single-game suspensions could drop off after five years and two-game after eight.
Still, Parry has had, from memory at least two four-game suspensions in recent years, and this is the sort of thing it's aimed at stamping out, so while his aggression is/has been great, I don't think as an Eagles fan we can complain too much, other than the incident that pushed it over the edge was dumb rather than overly malicious.

[blood bath]

I still don't get it, why accept a 2 game suspension knowing your would be deregistered? Why wouldn't you plead not guilty or try to get the charge down graded?

[CoverKing]

Also this is more aimed at thugs in Saafl n country leagues.

His games should be halved as they do for afl games suspensions..

Feel sorry for him since it came through half way through his career

[dedja]

I still don't get it, why accept a 2 game suspension knowing your would be deregistered? Why wouldn't you plead not guilty or try to get the charge down graded?

Because he's faarking thick as 2 bricks ...

[Reddeer]

all the same it is a pretty ridiculous rule, but remember it is the SANFL and the way it is going these days and the decisions being made what do we expect

[SimonH]

While he is obviously stupid I have an issue for a rule like this that comes in retrospectively half way thru a guys career. If it came in last year then everyone should start at 0.

100% right. Retrospective rule changes are for dumb lawyers who don't know how to draft a transitional clause, and unprincipled politicians looking for some cheap electoral advantage.

Part of Article 15 of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights: "Nor shall a heavier penalty be imposed than the one that was applicable at the time when the criminal offence was committed." Whacking people on the park isn't (charged as) a criminal offence, sure, but the principle is there, and the 5 weeks that he got for striking 10 years ago in 2003, is now being counted towards giving him a much heavier penalty, under rule changes made in 2011/12. That is retrospective punishment.

[Mark_Beswick]

I think rolling demerit system needs looking at too

Perhaps after say 6 years, (or another number) - penalties from year one drop off when you play your 7th year. Penalties from year 2 drop off in your 8th year etc... A little like the golf handicap system...

A player can grow up and mature (not defending Parry here) but, longevity in the SANFL is going to be rare and we need to have some system that rewards players as well as the stick.

[Dols]

If we had the AFL match review panel in the SANFL there wouldn't be in players left!

[dedja]

While he is obviously stupid I have an issue for a rule like this that comes in retrospectively half way thru a guys career. If it came in last year then everyone should start at 0.

100% right. Retrospective rule changes are for dumb lawyers who don't know how to draft a transitional clause, and unprincipled politicians looking for some cheap electoral advantage.

Part of Article 15 of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights: "Nor shall a heavier penalty be imposed than the one that was applicable at the time when the criminal offence was committed." Whacking people on the park isn't (charged as) a criminal offence, sure, but the principle is there, and the 5 weeks that he got for striking 10 years ago in 2003, is now being counted towards giving him a much heavier penalty, under rule changes made in 2011/12. That is retrospective punishment.

Are you Julian Assange?

[FlyingHigh]

I think rolling demerit system needs looking at too

Perhaps after say 6 years, (or another number) - penalties from year one drop off when you play your 7th year. Penalties from year 2 drop off in your 8th year etc... A little like the golf handicap system...

A player can grow up and mature (not defending Parry here) but, longevity in the SANFL is going to be rare and we need to have some system that rewards players as well as the stick.

Agree about dropping off penalties if they are for light incidents. If someone has done something serious in their younger years then that needs to stay with them (at least from the time this was introduced) and that there should have been some transitional reductions, like SimonH referred to.