AFL Reserves Discussion...

[FlyingHigh]

Pretty good idea saintal. A good way of connecting with the indigenous communities for the AFL clubs. Imagine there'd be a few players there that wouldn't be too far off league standard (the Eagles did this a couple of years ago) but whether there'd be enough of half-decent standard?

[smac]

What happens if only 2 or 3 clubs offer up top up players?

Presumably, AFC withdraw from SANFL as that would not indicate unanimous support for the concept.

Because that's what they said they wanted and I believe them.

[mighty_tiger_79]

What happens if only 2 or 3 clubs offer up top up players?

Presumably, AFC withdraw from SANFL as that would not indicate unanimous support for the concept.

Because that's what they said they wanted and I believe them.

as the great Mr T has said on many occasions

I pity the fool

[CedeNullis]

What happens if only 2 or 3 clubs offer up top up players?

Presumably, AFC withdraw from SANFL as that would not indicate unanimous support for the concept.

Because that's what they said they wanted and I believe them.

That's right, they strike me as an extremely trustworthy and 'straight down the line' group of people.
True to their word and understand the meaning of integrity and trust.

[Aerie]

As a further query to Rucci's article on the weekend, if the Crows make the finals, which top-up players do they then choose? Seemingly they would come from the bottom 4 clubs, but could they choose the best? This team could then be half professional footballers, half a state side (Cross, Liddle, Wundke, Gray, Mieklejohn, Coad) up against a club side.
Why should a player be rewarded with a finals appearance when his club team wasn't good enough? Worse still, how about if the Crows needed to win to make the finals and were playing a team who couldn't, but whose players might be in line for a finals call-up to the Crows? What incentive would certain players have to try against the Crows or even make a few timely "mistakes"?

Were you at the info night FH?

I still think the top-up player system isn't ideal, but it is a good concept. I think each club should give two players at the start of the season and be done with it for the whole year. The player either plays Crows SANFL or SANFL Reserves. At this stage, each club has available two players if they want to and these players would be not at league level and reviewed each 6 weeks.

As an example of the type of player they are talking about, from the Eagles you could offer (in conjunction with the player of course) say a Jack Muirhead and Tom Schwarz. Both should be good league players down the track, but not really pushing for a regular league berth at the moment. They get a season training part time with the Crows and getting a feel of what it is like at AFL level, they are handy players as depth. They come back to the Eagles full time after a year of either playing league with the Crows and/or reserves still at the Eagles. I'm sure each club has two of these type of players you could offer up each season.

[Ecky]

As an example of the type of player they are talking about, from the Eagles you could offer (in conjunction with the player of course) say a Jack Muirhead and Tom Schwarz.

I doubt the clubs will even be that generous. Glenelg were talking about offering players they believe were at least 18 months away from playing League - probably junior academy players from the South East, with the Crows opportunity used to entice them to spend some time in the city.

[Jimmy]

Noticed that the Crows' Twitter account is now protected.

It wasn't two days ago!

Dion Hayman and burtenshaw are going at it too on twitter.

[whufc]

As a further query to Rucci's article on the weekend, if the Crows make the finals, which top-up players do they then choose? Seemingly they would come from the bottom 4 clubs, but could they choose the best? This team could then be half professional footballers, half a state side (Cross, Liddle, Wundke, Gray, Mieklejohn, Coad) up against a club side.
Why should a player be rewarded with a finals appearance when his club team wasn't good enough? Worse still, how about if the Crows needed to win to make the finals and were playing a team who couldn't, but whose players might be in line for a finals call-up to the Crows? What incentive would certain players have to try against the Crows or even make a few timely "mistakes"?

Were you at the info night FH?

I still think the top-up player system isn't ideal, but it is a good concept. I think each club should give two players at the start of the season and be done with it for the whole year. The player either plays Crows SANFL or SANFL Reserves. At this stage, each club has available two players if they want to and these players would be not at league level and reviewed each 6 weeks.

As an example of the type of player they are talking about, from the Eagles you could offer (in conjunction with the player of course) say a Jack Muirhead and Tom Schwarz. Both should be good league players down the track, but not really pushing for a regular league berth at the moment. They get a season training part time with the Crows and getting a feel of what it is like at AFL level, they are handy players as depth. They come back to the Eagles full time after a year of either playing league with the Crows and/or reserves still at the Eagles. I'm sure each club has two of these type of players you could offer up each season.

So u think its a good concept that we are taking away the last remaining prestige of playing SANFL league by gifting kids a game that don't deserve it

Yay the brad currie, Heath Hopwoods of the world will be pumped

[am Bays]

Noticed that the Crows' Twitter account is now protected.

It wasn't two days ago!

Dion Hayman and burtenshaw are going at it too on twitter.

My money is on Dion.

[Ecky]

It will be interesting to see what reserves players at SANFL clubs (who are considered "too good" to be top up players) think about all this. Even less incentive for them to stick around in the SANFL system when they see worse players gifted League games and a chance to play and train with the Crows?

[Aerie]

As a further query to Rucci's article on the weekend, if the Crows make the finals, which top-up players do they then choose? Seemingly they would come from the bottom 4 clubs, but could they choose the best? This team could then be half professional footballers, half a state side (Cross, Liddle, Wundke, Gray, Mieklejohn, Coad) up against a club side.
Why should a player be rewarded with a finals appearance when his club team wasn't good enough? Worse still, how about if the Crows needed to win to make the finals and were playing a team who couldn't, but whose players might be in line for a finals call-up to the Crows? What incentive would certain players have to try against the Crows or even make a few timely "mistakes"?

Were you at the info night FH?

I still think the top-up player system isn't ideal, but it is a good concept. I think each club should give two players at the start of the season and be done with it for the whole year. The player either plays Crows SANFL or SANFL Reserves. At this stage, each club has available two players if they want to and these players would be not at league level and reviewed each 6 weeks.

As an example of the type of player they are talking about, from the Eagles you could offer (in conjunction with the player of course) say a Jack Muirhead and Tom Schwarz. Both should be good league players down the track, but not really pushing for a regular league berth at the moment. They get a season training part time with the Crows and getting a feel of what it is like at AFL level, they are handy players as depth. They come back to the Eagles full time after a year of either playing league with the Crows and/or reserves still at the Eagles. I'm sure each club has two of these type of players you could offer up each season.

So u think its a good concept that we are taking away the last remaining prestige of playing SANFL league by gifting kids a game that don't deserve it

Yay the brad currie, Heath Hopwoods of the world will be pumped

Not ideal, but better than some of the possible alternatives. It ain't like it use to be.

[FlyingHigh]

As a further query to Rucci's article on the weekend, if the Crows make the finals, which top-up players do they then choose? Seemingly they would come from the bottom 4 clubs, but could they choose the best? This team could then be half professional footballers, half a state side (Cross, Liddle, Wundke, Gray, Mieklejohn, Coad) up against a club side.
Why should a player be rewarded with a finals appearance when his club team wasn't good enough? Worse still, how about if the Crows needed to win to make the finals and were playing a team who couldn't, but whose players might be in line for a finals call-up to the Crows? What incentive would certain players have to try against the Crows or even make a few timely "mistakes"?

Were you at the info night FH?

I still think the top-up player system isn't ideal, but it is a good concept. I think each club should give two players at the start of the season and be done with it for the whole year. The player either plays Crows SANFL or SANFL Reserves. At this stage, each club has available two players if they want to and these players would be not at league level and reviewed each 6 weeks.

As an example of the type of player they are talking about, from the Eagles you could offer (in conjunction with the player of course) say a Jack Muirhead and Tom Schwarz. Both should be good league players down the track, but not really pushing for a regular league berth at the moment. They get a season training part time with the Crows and getting a feel of what it is like at AFL level, they are handy players as depth. They come back to the Eagles full time after a year of either playing league with the Crows and/or reserves still at the Eagles. I'm sure each club has two of these type of players you could offer up each season.

Nah, I wasn't Aerie.

[FlyingHigh]

It will be interesting to see what reserves players at SANFL clubs (who are considered "too good" to be top up players) think about all this. Even less incentive for them to stick around in the SANFL system when they see worse players gifted League games and a chance to play and train with the Crows?

Another excellent point Ecky. How come those that are running the show are so blind to these things?

[Hodges 153!]

[quote="FlyingHigh"]As a further query to Rucci's article on the weekend, if the Crows make the finals, which top-up players do they then choose? Seemingly they would come from the bottom 4 clubs, but could they choose the best? This team could then be half professional footballers, half a state side (Cross, Liddle, Wundke, Gray, Mieklejohn, Coad) up against a club side.
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Can the PAMFC players next year be taken as top-ups?

If so, does the club also get the $50k?

[whufc]

We give them Corry Reichart, that will make sure the c**nts are ordinary!!!

North should give them Matty Westoff

[on the rails]

We give them Corry Reichart, that will make sure the c**nts are ordinary!!!

North should give them Matty Westoff

Apparently he is already on Centrals top up list for us!

Mind you he is playing decent footy in the ressies and could consider himslef unlucky not be in the league side given our current hoor patch?

[JK]

We give them Corry Reichart, that will make sure the c**nts are ordinary!!!

North should give them Matty Westoff

Apparently he is already on Centrals top up list for us!

Mind you he is playing decent footy in the ressies and could consider himslef unlucky not be in the league side given our current hoor patch?

Is that meant to be "Poor Patch" or "Whore Patch"?

[on the rails]

Whoops - typo but your words fit well JK!

[The Sleeping Giant]

Whore patch sounds right. North are ******* up their season.

[Booney]

As a further query to Rucci's article on the weekend, if the Crows make the finals, which top-up players do they then choose? Seemingly they would come from the bottom 4 clubs, but could they choose the best? This team could then be half professional footballers, half a state side (Cross, Liddle, Wundke, Gray, Mieklejohn, Coad) up against a club side.
Why should a player be rewarded with a finals appearance when his club team wasn't good enough? Worse still, how about if the Crows needed to win to make the finals and were playing a team who couldn't, but whose players might be in line for a finals call-up to the Crows? What incentive would certain players have to try against the Crows or even make a few timely "mistakes"?

Were you at the info night FH?

I still think the top-up player system isn't ideal, but it is a good concept. I think each club should give two players at the start of the season and be done with it for the whole year. The player either plays Crows SANFL or SANFL Reserves. At this stage, each club has available two players if they want to and these players would be not at league level and reviewed each 6 weeks.

As an example of the type of player they are talking about, from the Eagles you could offer (in conjunction with the player of course) say a Jack Muirhead and Tom Schwarz. Both should be good league players down the track, but not really pushing for a regular league berth at the moment. They get a season training part time with the Crows and getting a feel of what it is like at AFL level, they are handy players as depth. They come back to the Eagles full time after a year of either playing league with the Crows and/or reserves still at the Eagles. I'm sure each club has two of these type of players you could offer up each season.

I cant agree with a system where a blokes that cant make Adelaides reserves side in the league drops back to the reserves side of his SANFL club....or the league side of his SANFL club.