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Re: Put your money where your mouth is...

Postby dedja » Sat Aug 17, 2013 9:47 pm

I respect the position taken by Central and South but I'm not buying any membership other than one from the Glenelg Football Club.

Well done just the same.
Dunno, I’m just an idiot.
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Re: Put your money where your mouth is...

Postby Aerie » Sat Aug 17, 2013 10:16 pm

bulldogproud2 wrote:
Aerie wrote:
sjt wrote:
Aerie wrote:South did it for the right reasons. Central just couldn't make up their mind. Their decision could be made without consequence. Probably scared of UK Fan.


Centrals couldn't make such an important decision with the lack of information and the poor quality of the information at hand. I believe this is what sensible managers, businesses, directors do request some facts and tangible benefits when a proposition is put forward.


I'll ask again. What was the exact information that Central wanted? There are many unknowns that can't actually be answered without hindsight.

As far as I'm concerned, it's either a NO because of integrity, a NO because you think the SANFL will be better off without the AFL teams, or a YES because you think the SANFL will be better off with the AFL teams than they would with AFL teams in the SAAFL or another competition.

Central's meek NO is as bad as the meek YES voters.
It has not just been the last month or so that the Crows have wanted a Reserves team. Central should be better prepared than voting NO on the basis of lack of information. Then they could have influenced others.


Airie, much as I love you, that is a ridiculous comment. You don't go ahead and support a proposal unless you know the proposal is beneficial. The right thing to do is support the status quo until you have evidence that a change is required.
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Unfortunately it wasn't a vote to keep the status quo though. There was to be change one way or another. The vote would have been 8-0 against if the status quo was the other option. The "not enough information" reason is akin to telling the teacher the dog ate my homework.
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Re: Put your money where your mouth is...

Postby bulldogproud2 » Sun Aug 18, 2013 2:35 pm

Not so. The final decision was rushed once the Crows knew they had six directors on board. There is no reason why the status quo could not have been maintained for another two or three months until plans had been properly gone through and the best possible information had been developed.
One big question I still have in relation to the Crows is what will happen if their AFL team makes the Grand Final but their Reserves team misses out on the SANFL finals. This could mean that any possible replacement player goes without match practice for five weeks. Not a great scenario if the Crows have injuries or form drop-offs in the finals. Currently, players in the mix would either be playing for their own SANFL team (if it was in finals) or two or three whose team was not in League finals would have been playing Reserves finals. There is no way they can put a dozen players into another SANFL team during the finals, so what will happen??

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Re: Put your money where your mouth is...

Postby Aerie » Sun Aug 18, 2013 3:22 pm

bulldogproud2 wrote:Not so. The final decision was rushed once the Crows knew they had six directors on board. There is no reason why the status quo could not have been maintained for another two or three months until plans had been properly gone through and the best possible information had been developed.

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Yep, fair enough. I understand that.

So what information did Central want, and once they digest this information, what would be their decision? Will Central ever reveal?

I understand the reasons for 7 SANFL clubs voting either Yes, or No. Only South had the strength to say No for the reason of integrity. I imagine, the main reason why most of us were against the concept. Central sitting on the fence. Politically smart?
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Re: Put your money where your mouth is...

Postby Kahuna » Sun Aug 18, 2013 4:09 pm

In what universe is a "No" vote sitting on the fence? Only yours I'm thinking.
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Re: Put your money where your mouth is...

Postby sjt » Sun Aug 18, 2013 4:09 pm

Aerie wrote:
bulldogproud2 wrote:Not so. The final decision was rushed once the Crows knew they had six directors on board. There is no reason why the status quo could not have been maintained for another two or three months until plans had been properly gone through and the best possible information had been developed.

Cheers


Yep, fair enough. I understand that.

So what information did Central want, and once they digest this information, what would be their decision? Will Central ever reveal?

I understand the reasons for 7 SANFL clubs voting either Yes, or No. Only South had the strength to say No for the reason of integrity. I imagine, the main reason why most of us were against the concept. Central sitting on the fence. Politically smart?

How about for the reason the concept is $&@$&! What are you dribbling, so voting no is sitting on the fence. No matter how many times you say it your club voting yes is cowardice (though politically correct). Maybe the sanfl and crows didn't have as many corrupt concessions to offer centrals and south.
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Re: Put your money where your mouth is...

Postby Aerie » Sun Aug 18, 2013 4:32 pm

If the concept is "$&@$&" then come out and say that.

It doesn't take Einstein to work out there is no possible way this concept can maintain integrity in its truest sense. Only South gave this reason.

In the meantime I'll pretend to buy a South membership and I'll wait to see Central's real reasons for voting no (or if they would've voted yes with more info) before I pretend to buy a membership off them as well.
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Re: Put your money where your mouth is...

Postby smac » Sun Aug 18, 2013 5:35 pm

So long as you stop banging on it about it.
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Re: Put your money where your mouth is...

Postby csbowes » Sun Aug 18, 2013 6:02 pm

Maybe people should have to post proof they bought the membership? :-)
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Re: Put your money where your mouth is...

Postby StrayDog » Sun Aug 18, 2013 6:12 pm

RB wrote:
Mickyj wrote:....

The silent majority who wanna keep going and have put faith in our clubs leadership seemed to be put in the same basket as you guys.

For the number of eagles fans who think like LEH etc . The same number shake their heads in disbelief!!

There's faith and then there's blind faith. You've gotta have an open mind about these sorts of things, but not so open your brain falls out.

Classic! :lol:
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Re: Put your money where your mouth is...

Postby StrayDog » Sun Aug 18, 2013 6:13 pm

dedja wrote:has to be one of the biggest bullshit terms ever invented ... the silent majority

Goes hand in hand with another weasel phrase "vocal minority", both in vogue a little under 10 1/2 years ago as I recall.
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Re: Put your money where your mouth is...

Postby Dogmatic » Sun Aug 18, 2013 6:13 pm

Aerie wrote:If the concept is "$&@$&" then come out and say that.

It doesn't take Einstein to work out there is no possible way this concept can maintain integrity in its truest sense. Only South gave this reason.

In the meantime I'll pretend to buy a South membership and I'll wait to see Central's real reasons for voting no (or if they would've voted yes with more info) before I pretend to buy a membership off them as well.

FFS It was a yes or no vote. Who are you? Big Brother?
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Re: Put your money where your mouth is...

Postby bulldogproud2 » Sun Aug 18, 2013 7:22 pm

Dogmatic wrote:
Aerie wrote:If the concept is "$&@$&" then come out and say that.

It doesn't take Einstein to work out there is no possible way this concept can maintain integrity in its truest sense. Only South gave this reason.

In the meantime I'll pretend to buy a South membership and I'll wait to see Central's real reasons for voting no (or if they would've voted yes with more info) before I pretend to buy a membership off them as well.

FFS It was a yes or no vote. Who are you? Big Brother?


Airie, I am happy to buy a Central's membership for you and give it to you at WTDCC.
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Re: Put your money where your mouth is...

Postby Aerie » Sun Aug 18, 2013 8:27 pm

smac wrote:So long as you stop banging on it about it.


Fair call! I'm done!
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