England v Australia 4th Test

[Jim05]

now is the time usman

He is no good
Not up to standard unfortunately

[Jim05]

2/23

[RustyCage]

Rogers almost dragged it on, will be a long day for batsmen, expecting to see us bowling just after tea

[Jim05]

Pitched outside leg
Poms waste a review

[jackpot jim]

Another prickly scenario with DRS

[cripple]

If DRS wasnt confusing enough already, you get this scenario. Rogers needs to use his good fortune now.

[jackpot jim]

Seriously, are these umpires just guessing when they fire batsmen out? Thinking if they are wrong then DRS will save them?

[whufc]

Not sure how the laws work but this is common sense with DRS

Clearly the umpire gave it caught behind which it wasn't

I wonder whether once it wasn't caught behind if Cook could of called a review for the lbw considering it was Rogers who asked for the original review

[Jim05]

Seriously, are these umpires just guessing when they fire batsmen out? Thinking if they are wrong then DRS will save them?

Yep
Thats exactly whats happening, piss weak

[heater31]

Seriously, are these umpires just guessing when they fire batsmen out? Thinking if they are wrong then DRS will save them?

Well in Tony Hill's case yes. How many shocking decisions has this bloke made? Horrifyingly this bloke conducts umpire seminars and coaching in his native New Zealand

[heater31]

Not sure how the laws work but this is common sense with DRS

Clearly the umpire gave it caught behind which it wasn't

I wonder whether once it wasn't caught behind if Cook could of called a review for the lbw considering it was Rogers who asked for the original review

I think the Umpires communicated and confirmed what he was given for.

[jackpot jim]

If DRS wasnt confusing enough already, you get this scenario. Rogers needs to use his good fortune now.

No good fortune there. Rogers simply wasn't out FULLSTOP

[whufc]

Not sure how the laws work but this is common sense with DRS

Clearly the umpire gave it caught behind which it wasn't

I wonder whether once it wasn't caught behind if Cook could of called a review for the lbw considering it was Rogers who asked for the original review

I think the Umpires communicated and confirmed what he was given for.

Yep which is common sense

When there is a review should the first question be either

Umpire- what have u given that our for
Fielding captain- what are u reviewing

And then that's all the 3rd umpire looks at

[bulldogproud2]

Chris Rogers is extremely lucky to not have been given out.
In normal circumstances, an umpire does not have to give his reason for giving a player out.
As such, Chris Rogers should have been given out, no matter whether it ended up being LBW or caught behind. The umpire's original decision was out, the call was not overturned by DRS, it was given as Umpire's Call. As such, with the rules of DRS, he should have definitely been given out!!
At the very least, England should be given an extra review back. They lost having Rogers out on review, despite him being out on umpire's call.

Cheers

[daysofourlives]

Not sure how the laws work but this is common sense with DRS

Clearly the umpire gave it caught behind which it wasn't

I wonder whether once it wasn't caught behind if Cook could of called a review for the lbw considering it was Rogers who asked for the original review

England should just be happy they didnt lose a review because of that. Hill obviously said in his opinion it wasnt LBW because he hit it, so umpires call on LBW was not out.

But on a side note whenever England don't get DRS go their way they are a disgrace the way they hang around arguing with the umpire, its not the 1st time its happened this series

[whufc]

If DRS wasnt confusing enough already, you get this scenario. Rogers needs to use his good fortune now.

No good fortune there. Rogers simply wasn't out FULLSTOP

Yep same as Smiths innings last test people are getting confused with miss fortune and a bad review.

Oh yeah bye bye Khawaja

[daysofourlives]

Chris Rogers is extremely lucky to not have been given out.
In normal circumstances, an umpire does not have to give his reason for giving a player out.
As such, Chris Rogers should have been given out, no matter whether it ended up being LBW or caught behind. The umpire's original decision was out, the call was not overturned by DRS, it was given as Umpire's Call. As such, with the rules of DRS, he should have definitely been given out!!
At the very least, England should be given an extra review back. They lost having Rogers out on review, despite him being out on umpire's call.

Cheers

What are you on BP England didnt review it Rogers did, so England lost nothing, Obviously umpires communicated and Hill said his upires call on the LBW was not out.

[whufc]

Chris Rogers is extremely lucky to not have been given out.
In normal circumstances, an umpire does not have to give his reason for giving a player out.
As such, Chris Rogers should have been given out, no matter whether it ended up being LBW or caught behind. The umpire's original decision was out, the call was not overturned by DRS, it was given as Umpire's Call. As such, with the rules of DRS, he should have definitely been given out!!
At the very least, England should be given an extra review back. They lost having Rogers out on review, despite him being out on umpire's call.

Cheers

What are you on BP England didnt review it Rogers did, so England lost nothing, Obviously umpires communicated and Hill said his upires call on the LBW was not out.

Exactly that's how I read the situation

[bulldogproud2]

Chris Rogers is extremely lucky to not have been given out.
In normal circumstances, an umpire does not have to give his reason for giving a player out.
As such, Chris Rogers should have been given out, no matter whether it ended up being LBW or caught behind. The umpire's original decision was out, the call was not overturned by DRS, it was given as Umpire's Call. As such, with the rules of DRS, he should have definitely been given out!!
At the very least, England should be given an extra review back. They lost having Rogers out on review, despite him being out on umpire's call.

Cheers

What are you on BP England didnt review it Rogers did, so England lost nothing, Obviously umpires communicated and Hill said his upires call on the LBW was not out.

I know that Rogers reviewed it. However, DRS resulted in a decision going against England despite Rogers being given out and DRS not overturning the decision. Surely they should be entitled to get an extra one for that then, as that review cost them a wicket that was actually out. The Umpire's Call was out, not overturned by DRS, therefore OUT!
Many many times has a batsman been given out when the bowling team may have been appealing for a different way of being out - for instance, there have been many occasions of appeals for caught behind and it has been found out in the end that the umpire did not give him out caught behind but LBW. This should be no different. If you are out and DRS says not to overturn the decision, you should be OUT!
Cheers

[heater31]

Chris Rogers is extremely lucky to not have been given out.
In normal circumstances, an umpire does not have to give his reason for giving a player out.
As such, Chris Rogers should have been given out, no matter whether it ended up being LBW or caught behind. The umpire's original decision was out, the call was not overturned by DRS, it was given as Umpire's Call. As such, with the rules of DRS, he should have definitely been given out!!
At the very least, England should be given an extra review back. They lost having Rogers out on review, despite him being out on umpire's call.

Cheers

What are you on BP England didnt review it Rogers did, so England lost nothing, Obviously umpires communicated and Hill said his upires call on the LBW was not out.

I know that Rogers reviewed it. However, DRS resulted in a decision going against England despite Rogers being given out and DRS not overturning the decision. Surely they should be entitled to get an extra one for that then, as that review cost them a wicket that was actually out. The Umpire's Call was out, not overturned by DRS, therefore OUT!

Cheers

England still have 1 review left don't they? Australia 2