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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby Champ » Tue Aug 06, 2013 9:50 am

SecretInformant wrote:
The Sorce wrote:Who would currently be looking at relegation going on the points system if one of the country teams decides to step up to Central Division next year?


Mt. Lofty :( :( :(

The last 3 positions:

8. Bridgewater - 148
9. Ironbank - 106
10. Mt. Lofty - 79


Is that two years in a row? Sorry but I think promotion/relegation should be annually as per SAAFL, you can write as many rules, regulations etc in to that as you like so that there is still criteria for promoted clubs to meet - they might not be able to meet one or two stipulations resulting in them staying put in country for that next season.
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby Gervais » Tue Aug 06, 2013 10:25 am

Champ wrote:
SecretInformant wrote:
The Sorce wrote:Who would currently be looking at relegation going on the points system if one of the country teams decides to step up to Central Division next year?


Mt. Lofty :( :( :(

The last 3 positions:

8. Bridgewater - 148
9. Ironbank - 106
10. Mt. Lofty - 79


Is that two years in a row? Sorry but I think promotion/relegation should be annually as per SAAFL, you can write as many rules, regulations etc in to that as you like so that there is still criteria for promoted clubs to meet - they might not be able to meet one or two stipulations resulting in them staying put in country for that next season.


the hfl does have a promotion and relegation system, however it only comes into play if one of the country division a grade grand finalist asks to be promoted. if a club wants to be promoted every year, it will happen.

in the last 5 years only one club (torrens valley) has requested to move into central division. the current country division clubs have little interest in having to field 5 teams each weekend and trying to compete financially with the large central clubs.
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby The Gimp » Tue Aug 06, 2013 2:08 pm

Gervais wrote:
Champ wrote:
SecretInformant wrote:
The Sorce wrote:Who would currently be looking at relegation going on the points system if one of the country teams decides to step up to Central Division next year?


Mt. Lofty :( :( :(

The last 3 positions:

8. Bridgewater - 148
9. Ironbank - 106
10. Mt. Lofty - 79


Is that two years in a row? Sorry but I think promotion/relegation should be annually as per SAAFL, you can write as many rules, regulations etc in to that as you like so that there is still criteria for promoted clubs to meet - they might not be able to meet one or two stipulations resulting in them staying put in country for that next season.


the hfl does have a promotion and relegation system, however it only comes into play if one of the country division a grade grand finalist asks to be promoted. if a club wants to be promoted every year, it will happen.

in the last 5 years only one club (torrens valley) has requested to move into central division. the current country division clubs have little interest in having to field 5 teams each weekend and trying to compete financially with the large central clubs.

Not entirely correct. I agree that none of the current country clubs would like to compete financially but Meadows, NB and Birdwood would love to play in a comp where all clubs could field 5 teams! Also, a lot of the other clubs would like to as well but just can't.
Might be interesting to see if a current central div club wasn't able to field a Snr or Jnr colts team and whether the board/league would push them down to country div??
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby Ye Olde Place Kick » Tue Aug 06, 2013 6:46 pm

Not entirely correct. I agree that none of the current country clubs would like to compete financially but Meadows, NB and Birdwood would love to play in a comp where all clubs could field 5 teams! Also, a lot of the other clubs would like to as well but just can't.
Might be interesting to see if a current central div club wasn't able to field a Snr or Jnr colts team and whether the board/league would push them down to country div??[/quote]

Whats the story with Uraidla, didn't they forfeit 1or 2 mini colt games during the year?
Be amazed if they kicked them into the country div but will it lead to a change of rules?
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby Afterthesiren » Fri Aug 09, 2013 12:17 am

Heard the wheels are in motion for 3 divs in the HFL. Be intrresting to see what comes of this if anything at all. Have also heard a number of clubs have been talking to a nearby league with the thought of leaving the HFL. I know we've heard this over the past couple of years but there might just be some truth to the rumours. Might just be a very interesting off season.
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby has been » Fri Aug 09, 2013 10:03 pm

You may be on the money ATS re 3 divs. 7 teams in div 1 and 2 and 5 in div 3. Believe at the latest hfl meeting it was referred To div 1 as a super 6. These clubs pushing this barrow may well be in for a bit of a rude surprise and it may be as early as next season. Believe an ex pres of a cabbage brigade also scuttled a move for another div 1 club to have access to holding finals. Also have it from the horses mouth a cert pres who is also a member of the law establishment is telling the clubs first or second year players they have signed 3 year cfl contracts. Really ...... Wat league are you in. Wat a way to treat your youth. It is a pity that within a year or 2 this league may become a shambles. About time some leadership was shown for the league as a whole not just a certain few. An intersting 4 months ahead. Know a certain adjoining league is eyeing off at least 3 maybe 4 new combatants as early as 2014
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby Gervais » Fri Aug 09, 2013 11:06 pm

has been wrote:You may be on the money ATS re 3 divs. 7 teams in div 1 and 2 and 5 in div 3. Believe at the latest hfl meeting it was referred To div 1 as a super 6. These clubs pushing this barrow may well be in for a bit of a rude surprise and it may be as early as next season. Believe an ex pres of a cabbage brigade also scuttled a move for another div 1 club to have access to holding finals. Also have it from the horses mouth a cert pres who is also a member of the law establishment is telling the clubs first or second year players they have signed 3 year cfl contracts. Really ...... Wat league are you in. Wat a way to treat your youth. It is a pity that within a year or 2 this league may become a shambles. About time some leadership was shown for the league as a whole not just a certain few. An intersting 4 months ahead. Know a certain adjoining league is eyeing off at least 3 maybe 4 new combatants as early as 2014


really ? 12 months after you were last sprouting that 4 clubs were leaving the hfl (none did by the way), you're posting this rubbish again? did you even attend the hfl meeting this week?

hfl structure wont change in 2014, will still be two divisions. there was no talk of a 'super 6' (do you just make this stuff up as you go along?).

as for the issue of a club president tricking young players into signing 3 year contracts - not even worthy of a response.
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby Afterthesiren » Sat Aug 10, 2013 9:55 am

Mt Barker do it Gervais and have been for the past couple of years, I know because current and ex players have told me. Some have also been denied clearances "under contract" when they haven't even signed a contract. PM me and I'll give you names. As for the other stuff... wait and see I guess. The HFL is good at that. Waiting, watching... not doing.
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby supercoach » Sun Aug 11, 2013 3:05 pm

Gervais u and ur onka mates are maybe team 7. Not in the big 6 can assure u of that. I was there it was definitely mentioned and discussed openly. As for clubs leaving last year was short notice. U r a fool if u think they stopped talking to th SFL. A definite possibility. As for mal w telling porkies re contracts he sure as hell does. Has for years. ATS knows his stuff think u will find. ;) :D :D
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby cracka » Sun Aug 11, 2013 7:06 pm

supercoach wrote:Gervais u and ur onka mates are maybe team 7. Not in the big 6 can assure u of that. I was there it was definitely mentioned and discussed openly. As for clubs leaving last year was short notice. U r a fool if u think they stopped talking to th SFL. A definite possibility. As for mal w telling porkies re contracts he sure as hell does. Has for years. ATS knows his stuff think u will find. ;) :D :D

I was also there & agree 3 divisions was mentioned by some clubs (in the club round up) as the way to go, don't agree that it was discussed much. I think it was a majority wanting to keep it at 2 divisions.
If its the same clubs as last years rumours wanting to go to SFL or talking to SFL, then I say go. If you read the SFL forum the issues are the same, maybe worse down there.
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby shootstavros » Sun Aug 11, 2013 11:55 pm

On a more interesting note:
should be a great weekend for the battle of 3rd position - with only % separating Lobey and Onkas
with Onkas at Blackwood and poor old Lobey up against the Barkeroos to hold onto 3rd
favour Onkas to take it - they are the form team out of the two
and fifth you would think is safe for Hahndorf even though playing Bridgey at Callington but a game and % ahead and Bankers having to beat TV away could be just a bridge too far

so probably first week of finals will be Uraidla v Onkas and Lobey against the Magpies....
will be a great final round even if Onkas and Lobey lose could come down to the losing margins
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby cracka » Mon Aug 12, 2013 11:33 am

supercoach wrote:Gervais u and ur onka mates are maybe team 7. Not in the big 6 can assure u of that. I was there it was definitely mentioned and discussed openly. As for clubs leaving last year was short notice. U r a fool if u think they stopped talking to th SFL. A definite possibility. As for mal w telling porkies re contracts he sure as hell does. Has for years. ATS knows his stuff think u will find. ;) :D :D

I've never heard of this "big 6" before, out of sheer curiosity, who are they.
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby Whos ya daddy » Mon Aug 12, 2013 11:37 am

shootstavros wrote:On a more interesting note:
should be a great weekend for the battle of 3rd position - with only % separating Lobey and Onkas
with Onkas at Blackwood and poor old Lobey up against the Barkeroos to hold onto 3rd
favour Onkas to take it - they are the form team out of the two
and fifth you would think is safe for Hahndorf even though playing Bridgey at Callington but a game and % ahead and Bankers having to beat TV away could be just a bridge too far

so probably first week of finals will be Uraidla v Onkas and Lobey against the Magpies....
will be a great final round even if Onkas and Lobey lose could come down to the losing margins


What will make this situation more interesting is if Onkas and Loby both lose and Hahndorf have a decent win (5-6goals) they can leap frog both teams and take 3rd. I think there will be a lot of phonecalls at 5pm on sat by ppl trying to find out other results.
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby cracka » Tue Aug 13, 2013 8:02 pm

has been wrote:You may be on the money ATS re 3 divs. 7 teams in div 1 and 2 and 5 in div 3. Believe at the latest hfl meeting it was referred To div 1 as a super 6. These clubs pushing this barrow may well be in for a bit of a rude surprise and it may be as early as next season. Believe an ex pres of a cabbage brigade also scuttled a move for another div 1 club to have access to holding finals. Also have it from the horses mouth a cert pres who is also a member of the law establishment is telling the clubs first or second year players they have signed 3 year cfl contracts. Really ...... Wat league are you in. Wat a way to treat your youth. It is a pity that within a year or 2 this league may become a shambles. About time some leadership was shown for the league as a whole not just a certain few. An intersting 4 months ahead. Know a certain adjoining league is eyeing off at least 3 maybe 4 new combatants as early as 2014

Not entirely correct, but don't let the truth get in the way of a good story.
There was a central club (who's facilities aren't very good) trying to get permission to host a final at a nearby country club venue, but got voted down by the other clubs (both central & country). Apparently the rule is central finals at central venues & country finals at country venues, which also means no finals at Milang.
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby rock » Tue Aug 13, 2013 8:30 pm

The word on the street is Dave Benson will be sacked after this Saturdays final minor round. So that'll be 4 coaches in 4 years when they appoint a coach for 2014.
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby has been » Tue Aug 13, 2013 8:41 pm

Cracka think you will find that the club you mention has agreements in principle with at least 1 other central club to hold finals if they can get one. Will be interesting to see what excuse is given to not be given one in that one oval has been played on in finals in other years and they are happy to share and it is in pretty good nick. See what Mr Parker and his cabbage cutters do about that one.
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby cracka » Wed Aug 14, 2013 9:03 am

has been wrote:Cracka think you will find that the club you mention has agreements in principle with at least 1 other central club to hold finals if they can get one. Will be interesting to see what excuse is given to not be given one in that one oval has been played on in finals in other years and they are happy to share and it is in pretty good nick. See what Mr Parker and his cabbage cutters do about that one.

Yes but only since the meeting has that happened. The club I was talking about had it 99% done to host a final at a country club venue, just needed approval from the other clubs but they voted against it. To say it was just the ex cabbage pres who knocked it back was not entirely correct.
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby Alaska » Wed Aug 14, 2013 9:21 am

rock wrote:The word on the street is Dave Benson will be sacked after this Saturdays final minor round. So that'll be 4 coaches in 4 years when they appoint a coach for 2014.



I think you will find he put in his notice, not to continue a couple of weeks ago.
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby norm11 » Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:54 am

Alaska wrote:
rock wrote:The word on the street is Dave Benson will be sacked after this Saturdays final minor round. So that'll be 4 coaches in 4 years when they appoint a coach for 2014.



I think you will find he put in his notice, not to continue a couple of weeks ago.

Which club are we talking about????
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Re: HFL Central Division

Postby MONTE CRISTO » Wed Aug 14, 2013 2:19 pm

I understood that Dave Benson only took the coaching job at Blackwood for 1 year so they had time to find another and so think the sacking thing is a figment of your imagination!
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