Crows in the SANFL - Q & A with the AFC

[kneedeepinthehoopla]

Is it fair to say the second afc side's main aim will not be winning? Instead, developing? This is different from an SANFL's reserves side and purpose. And this being the case, surely it compromises the SANFL competition, given they're not really competing? It also opens a can of worms into the betting industry. Will betting agencies still offer markets in such a compromised league? Will the SANFL lose revenue through this?

[JK]

1. Should the AFC form a team in the SAAFL would the AFC be required to invest money in SAAFL venues to meet OH&S requirements for its players?

2. Should the AFC form a team in the SANFL, can the club state categorically that none of their SANFL games would be played as curtain raisers to AFC AFL games?

[CUTTERMAN]

Well hasn't this thread been a wealth of knowledge and communication skills on show. Seriously! WHAT AN ABSOLUTE ******* JOKE.
If this is how the AFC treat SANFL supporters then you can shove your club up your arses. I'm out!

[adelaidefc]

How does the ACFF (Adelaide Crows Football Franchise) expect the SANFL clubs to compete for future supporters when the general flow chart would be for the kids following the crows to just support the Ravens as well?

The vast majority of kids are already following the AFL clubs, that's just the way it has been since 1991. We believe a combination of work by the Crows and the SANFL clubs can lead to more and more kids wanting to go to SANFL games, and the more who want to play through the junior grades, the better. David

[adelaidefc]

Will the Adelaide Crows be requesting that all their reserves games (if possible) be played at or near the same time as the AFL side?

Not at the same time, no. Ideally the reserves game would not be on a Sunday if the Crows were due to play the following Friday night. You would think that with the lights at various venues, there will be plenty of options for some sensible scheduling. David

[adelaidefc]

Why should the SANFL season be shortened just to accommodate your needs?

The SANFL does the fixture, not us. Two complete rounds for ten teams (18 games) is fairer though.

[adelaidefc]

1. Should the AFC form a team in the SAAFL would the AFC be required to invest money in SAAFL venues to meet OH&S requirements for its players?

2. Should the AFC form a team in the SANFL, can the club state categorically that none of their SANFL games would be played as curtain raisers to AFC AFL games?

1: No, we would play all of our games at Thebarton Oval.
2: That's not the plan, no. They are home games for the SANFL clubs.

[JK]

1. Should the AFC form a team in the SAAFL would the AFC be required to invest money in SAAFL venues to meet OH&S requirements for its players?

2. Should the AFC form a team in the SANFL, can the club state categorically that none of their SANFL games would be played as curtain raisers to AFC AFL games?

1: No, we would play all of our games at Thebarton Oval.
2: That's not the plan, no. They are home games for the SANFL clubs.

Thanks David.

In response to Q1 - Why then wouldn't you play home games in the SANFL at Thebarton Oval?

[Jim05]

Why should the SANFL season be shortened just to accommodate your needs?

The SANFL does the fixture, not us. Two complete rounds for ten teams (18 games) is fairer though.

So 4 less games per year for clubs to generate revenue?
Doesnt sound fair for me

[Aerie]

Why should the SANFL season be shortened just to accommodate your needs?

The SANFL does the fixture, not us. Two complete rounds for ten teams (18 games) is fairer though.

So 4 less games per year for clubs to generate revenue?
Doesnt sound fair for me

Would only be two. And would still have same amount of home games to generate revenue.

[saintal]

Out of curiosity, what work (if any) does the AFC currently do in collaboration with SANFL clubs to grow grassroots/junior footy? i.e running an annual joint clinic with SAFC @ Noarlunga, or Sturt @ Unley etc.

[adelaidefc]

Is it fair to say the second afc side's main aim will not be winning? Instead, developing? This is different from an SANFL's reserves side and purpose. And this being the case, surely it compromises the SANFL competition, given they're not really competing? It also opens a can of worms into the betting industry. Will betting agencies still offer markets in such a compromised league? Will the SANFL lose revenue through this?

Any team we will put out will be playing to win and competing. If you have a young team, there's going to be some development in there as well, but that's no different to any SANFL club with a young group. David

[adelaidefc]

1. Should the AFC form a team in the SAAFL would the AFC be required to invest money in SAAFL venues to meet OH&S requirements for its players?

2. Should the AFC form a team in the SANFL, can the club state categorically that none of their SANFL games would be played as curtain raisers to AFC AFL games?

1: No, we would play all of our games at Thebarton Oval.
2: That's not the plan, no. They are home games for the SANFL clubs.

Thanks David.

In response to Q1 - Why then wouldn't you play home games in the SANFL at Thebarton Oval?

It;s the HQ for the Amateur League. The idea of the Crows playing all away games is to help the the SANFL clubs. David

[adelaidefc]

Why should the SANFL season be shortened just to accommodate your needs?

The SANFL does the fixture, not us. Two complete rounds for ten teams (18 games) is fairer though.

So 4 less games per year for clubs to generate revenue?
Doesnt sound fair for me

Would only be two. And would still have same amount of home games to generate revenue.

Correct.

[Jim05]

Why should the SANFL season be shortened just to accommodate your needs?

The SANFL does the fixture, not us. Two complete rounds for ten teams (18 games) is fairer though.

So 4 less games per year for clubs to generate revenue?
Doesnt sound fair for me

Would only be two. And would still have same amount of home games to generate revenue.

Fair enough.
The Ressies and U18's would obviously only play 16 though

[saintal]

On the weekend just gone you had (by my count) 10 guys playing SANFL League footy, with another in Hartigan missing out due the bye. Another 4 or 5 weren't deemed good enough to be playing at this level, hence were playing ressies. So an AFC team would have been a mix of:
11 guys up to league standard
4 or 5 guys who currently aren't (youngsters/rookies etc),
1 bloke over the age of 28 with bung knees,
and 5 or 6 rings in from wherever you can find them.
In other words close to half the team would be getting a league game who aren't up to the current standard.

So anyway, to my question..Trigg has mentioned that one of the benefits of your proposal is that it "adds to the status of the competition". Perhaps you could explain his statement a little more clearly for me?

[adelaidefc]

Out of curiosity, what work (if any) does the AFC currently do in collaboration with SANFL clubs to grow grassroots/junior footy? i.e running an annual joint clinic with SAFC @ Noarlunga, or Sturt @ Unley etc.

Not sure about the individual SANFL clubs but our junior development team works hand in hand with the SANFL at a range of clinics, training night etc. The thought is that there will be more co-ordination with interested SANFL clubs in the lead-up to games, to promote. David

[Aerie]

Is it fair to say the second afc side's main aim will not be winning? Instead, developing? This is different from an SANFL's reserves side and purpose. And this being the case, surely it compromises the SANFL competition, given they're not really competing? It also opens a can of worms into the betting industry. Will betting agencies still offer markets in such a compromised league? Will the SANFL lose revenue through this?

Any team we will put out will be playing to win and competing. If you have a young team, there's going to be some development in there as well, but that's no different to any SANFL club with a young group. David

Given it is a young group, at what stage would the Crows realistically expect to be competing for the SANFL Premiership? Would it be a 3-5 year plan? What measures will be put in place to ensure you consistently play finals and are pushing for a top 3 position each season to give the best chance of a premiership?

[JK]

1. Should the AFC form a team in the SAAFL would the AFC be required to invest money in SAAFL venues to meet OH&S requirements for its players?

2. Should the AFC form a team in the SANFL, can the club state categorically that none of their SANFL games would be played as curtain raisers to AFC AFL games?

1: No, we would play all of our games at Thebarton Oval.
2: That's not the plan, no. They are home games for the SANFL clubs.

Thanks David.

In response to Q1 - Why then wouldn't you play home games in the SANFL at Thebarton Oval?

It;s the HQ for the Amateur League. The idea of the Crows playing all away games is to help the the SANFL clubs. David

But if the number of home games for the clubs keeps the status quo, how is it of guaranteed benefit?

[kneedeepinthehoopla]

Is it fair to say the second afc side's main aim will not be winning? Instead, developing? This is different from an SANFL's reserves side and purpose. And this being the case, surely it compromises the SANFL competition, given they're not really competing? It also opens a can of worms into the betting industry. Will betting agencies still offer markets in such a compromised league? Will the SANFL lose revenue through this?

Any team we will put out will be playing to win and competing. If you have a young team, there's going to be some development in there as well, but that's no different to any SANFL club with a young group. David

I appreciate the response, David.
I agree the 18 blokes on the park will be playing to win, but I was referring to club and coaching staff itself. Will the club's main interest be to win with it's reserves side every week or just develop for it's side in another league? I'm not convinced...