Sportsmanship

[Hefty]

in the white divison under 14s golden grove suck and often get pumped by 40 goals whats the difference

missing the point still its about the other side leaving a full compliment of players on the field despite being that far ahead. I agree with Beery on this.

And I disagree with both FS & Beer. Whether GG had 16 players or 18 players on the field IF would've still copped a pantsing. So, why would GG players have to lose out on game time because of the oppositions inablility to field a full team??

[Footy Smart]

in the white divison under 14s golden grove suck and often get pumped by 40 goals whats the difference

missing the point still its about the other side leaving a full compliment of players on the field despite being that far ahead. I agree with Beery on this.

some coaches change positions of forwards to backline etc some coaches play to win others play to teach depends on the coach and to be honest its the aggressive coaches that do this who wanna win sheep stations

i ment to say under 15s white as well lol i seen under 15s white out at angle vale other week go down by less then a goal and they havent won a game all year

you cant complain when you play in the G.F year before then suck following year just means you didnt recruit well enough but does that give you a right to stay down and smash weaker clubs in a different colour no

Yeah I have no problem with changing postions etc etc but once the game is done and dusted I reckon the oppostion could take the foot off the throat a touch.

As for the grading, i think it raises the other issue of the large clubs kike GG competing against the Ingle Farms etc. My brother in law plays for Ingle Farm, and they made the GF in the middle grade, got belted in the GF and went up. They are also getting a pantsing week in and week out as they are playing the bigger clubs best sides which they can’t compete with. They have been carried for years by 3-4 players which you can get away with in the middle grade. The Reds is a different kettle of fish though! and recruiting aspect is not applicable to U14 footy

[marbles]

If your up by 15 goals at half time pull the plug and mix the kids up to play a friendly second half, more to gain in swapping jumpers and having an even scratchy

[Footy Smart]

in the white divison under 14s golden grove suck and often get pumped by 40 goals whats the difference

missing the point still its about the other side leaving a full compliment of players on the field despite being that far ahead. I agree with Beery on this.

And I disagree with both FS & Beer. Whether GG had 16 players or 18 players on the field IF would've still copped a pantsing. So, why would GG players have to lose out on game time because of the oppositions inablility to field a full team??

Get off your high horse hefty. You are assocaited with a well resourced, large club, ingle farm are half as big as GG and from the people I have seen involved out there the inability to field the side is not a true reflection on them and the work they do for the lads. No doubt a hiding would have been given, but for the sake of having a 1 on 1 contest around the ground I think thats more than reasonable for a bunch of 13 year olds playing a game of footy irrespective of the score.

[beeroclock]

One on one would have been the go.
No issue there.
Footy gods always have the last say anyway.

[Robb_Stark]

how many golden grove junior teams are in the top 5 at the moment

[Phantom Gossiper]

The result also shows the massive jump between the different colours! I think our 16's experienced this last season too - went up and got flogged, in the middle div this year and winning most games.

[Robb_Stark]

under 11s red 6th
under 12s red 5th
under 12s white 6th
under 13s red 6th
under 14s red 1st
under 14s white 5th
under 15s red 4th
under 15s white 6th
under 16s red 5th

they have one decent team this year so sum it up golden grove juniors suck this year but one team

[Phantom Gossiper]

under 11s red 6th
under 12s red 5th
under 12s white 6th
under 13s red 6th
under 14s red 1st
under 14s white 5th
under 15s red 4th
under 15s white 6th
under 16s red 5th

they have one decent team this year

How many teams are in each division?

[Robb_Stark]

under 11s red 6th
under 12s red 5th
under 12s white 6th
under 13s red 6th
under 14s red 1st
under 14s white 5th
under 15s red 4th
under 15s white 6th
under 16s red 5th

they have one decent team this year

How many teams are in each division?

6-7 in each

[Phantom Gossiper]

6-7 in each

I guess the positive is though,most of their sides are competing in the Red division..

[Robb_Stark]

6-7 in each

I guess the positive is though,most of their sides are competing in the Red division..

means 1 of 2 things last yearthey finished first or second in the lower grades or felt they could handle it in the top grades either way they struggled this year in all juniors but the one just unlucky for the teams who play against them

[RooShootOhh]

As much iy would be great to be 'Fair' to everyone, what outcome do you get.

In this example, one club, for what ever reason fielded 18, down to 16 in the first 1/4 (if I read that correctly) and were getting comfortably done, EXPECT that the other club, with 22 players, to make 6 kids (instead on four) sit on the bench for over 3 qtrs as a sign of sportsmanship?

So what if your a parent of a kid who misses a heap of game time under the banner of sportsmanship.
Fully paid fees etc like every other kid out there, and what if that club has more than 22 players so they also have a rotation system wher they miss out on a game totally?
U/14's becomes the first level of competative footy in my eyes, so what if a kid misses a league B&F because his coach put him on the bench to help another team out (that kid then perhaps isnt recognised by a league club, doesn't play U18's at that league club, misses the draft etc).

Sportmanship is shown in a number of ways, and just because the club in question doesnt choose to penalise its own players, doesnt mean they didn't show any sportsmanship. if they were humble in defeat and played the game in good spirits, why isn't that enough?

Its always regrettable when junior teams struggle, but at some point (an age group in football), you cant keep wrapping them in cotton wool. Life isnt always fair, sport isnt either, as long as they are being taught the right life lessons, i think they will be ok.

[bird of prey]

As much iy would be great to be 'Fair' to everyone, what outcome do you get.

In this example, one club, for what ever reason fielded 18, down to 16 in the first 1/4 (if I read that correctly) and were getting comfortably done, EXPECT that the other club, with 22 players, to make 6 kids (instead on four) sit on the bench for over 3 qtrs as a sign of sportsmanship?

So what if your a parent of a kid who misses a heap of game time under the banner of sportsmanship.
Fully paid fees etc like every other kid out there, and what if that club has more than 22 players so they also have a rotation system wher they miss out on a game totally?
U/14's becomes the first level of competative footy in my eyes, so what if a kid misses a league B&F because his coach put him on the bench to help another team out (that kid then perhaps isnt recognised by a league club, doesn't play U18's at that league club, misses the draft etc).

Sportmanship is shown in a number of ways, and just because the club in question doesnt choose to penalise its own players, doesnt mean they didn't show any sportsmanship. if they were humble in defeat and played the game in good spirits, why isn't that enough?

Its always regrettable when junior teams struggle, but at some point (an age group in football), you cant keep wrapping them in cotton wool. Life isnt always fair, sport isnt either, as long as they are being taught the right life lessons, i think they will be ok.

Post of the day!

Brilliantly said. Couldn't agree more.

[woodublieve12]

As much iy would be great to be 'Fair' to everyone, what outcome do you get.

In this example, one club, for what ever reason fielded 18, down to 16 in the first 1/4 (if I read that correctly) and were getting comfortably done, EXPECT that the other club, with 22 players, to make 6 kids (instead on four) sit on the bench for over 3 qtrs as a sign of sportsmanship?

So what if your a parent of a kid who misses a heap of game time under the banner of sportsmanship.
Fully paid fees etc like every other kid out there, and what if that club has more than 22 players so they also have a rotation system wher they miss out on a game totally?
U/14's becomes the first level of competative footy in my eyes, so what if a kid misses a league B&F because his coach put him on the bench to help another team out (that kid then perhaps isnt recognised by a league club, doesn't play U18's at that league club, misses the draft etc).

Sportmanship is shown in a number of ways, and just because the club in question doesnt choose to penalise its own players, doesnt mean they didn't show any sportsmanship. if they were humble in defeat and played the game in good spirits, why isn't that enough?

Its always regrettable when junior teams struggle, but at some point (an age group in football), you cant keep wrapping them in cotton wool. Life isnt always fair, sport isnt either, as long as they are being taught the right life lessons, i think they will be ok.

[Trader]

IMO GG should have picked their best 2 players and sent them over to IF for the game.
36 players on the field and GG have 2 bench rotations.
Means more people are on the field playing.
Also means GG's 2nd rate players get to play against a couple of their best players.

GG would still have won by 25 goals so no impact on their ladder possie.

Having said that, the fact that GG didn't take the opportunity to get 20 of their guys on the field and give a chance for their lesser players to develop is ultimately their choice. Not sure it warrants a cry on the forums.

[Hefty]

As much iy would be great to be 'Fair' to everyone, what outcome do you get.

In this example, one club, for what ever reason fielded 18, down to 16 in the first 1/4 (if I read that correctly) and were getting comfortably done, EXPECT that the other club, with 22 players, to make 6 kids (instead on four) sit on the bench for over 3 qtrs as a sign of sportsmanship?

So what if your a parent of a kid who misses a heap of game time under the banner of sportsmanship.
Fully paid fees etc like every other kid out there, and what if that club has more than 22 players so they also have a rotation system wher they miss out on a game totally?
U/14's becomes the first level of competative footy in my eyes, so what if a kid misses a league B&F because his coach put him on the bench to help another team out (that kid then perhaps isnt recognised by a league club, doesn't play U18's at that league club, misses the draft etc).

Sportmanship is shown in a number of ways, and just because the club in question doesnt choose to penalise its own players, doesnt mean they didn't show any sportsmanship. if they were humble in defeat and played the game in good spirits, why isn't that enough?

Its always regrettable when junior teams struggle, but at some point (an age group in football), you cant keep wrapping them in cotton wool. Life isnt always fair, sport isnt either, as long as they are being taught the right life lessons, i think they will be ok.

[heater31]

IMO GG should have picked their best 2 players and sent them over to IF for the game.
36 players on the field and GG have 2 bench rotations.
Means more people are on the field playing.
Also means GG's 2nd rate players get to play against a couple of their best players.

GG would still have won by 25 goals so no impact on their ladder possie.

Having said that, the fact that GG didn't take the opportunity to get 20 of their guys on the field and give a chance for their lesser players to develop is ultimately their choice. Not sure it warrants a cry on the forums.

This scenario plays out in most country leagues, yet you city folk just don't seem to get it.

Personal stats still count, once played with a bloke who kicked 17 goals in the game, 9for his usual team and 7 for the opposition.

[Choccies]

I guess it's not always easy to keep an eye on so many junior teams on a Sunday morning and who does what and who says what. Ultimately I think that type of call is up to the coach..... And then unfortunately a whole club gets tarnished by one persons actions and we shouldn't. We have so many teams and so many players who play with the right spirit so I hope people understand that

[Choccies]

in the white divison under 14s golden grove suck and often get pumped by 40 goals whats the difference

missing the point still its about the other side leaving a full compliment of players on the field despite being that far ahead. I agree with Beery on this.

some coaches change positions of forwards to backline etc some coaches play to win others play to teach depends on the coach and to be honest its the aggressive coaches that do this who wanna win sheep stations

i ment to say under 15s white as well lol i seen under 15s white out at angle vale other week go down by less then a goal and they havent won a game all year

you cant complain when you play in the G.F year before then suck following year just means you didnt recruit well enough but does that give you a right to stay down and smash weaker clubs in a different colour no

Yeah I have no problem with changing postions etc etc but once the game is done and dusted I reckon the oppostion could take the foot off the throat a touch.

As for the grading, i think it raises the other issue of the large clubs kike GG competing against the Ingle Farms etc. My brother in law plays for Ingle Farm, and they made the GF in the middle grade, got belted in the GF and went up. They are also getting a pantsing week in and week out as they are playing the bigger clubs best sides which they can’t compete with. They have been carried for years by 3-4 players which you can get away with in the middle grade. The Reds is a different kettle of fish though! and recruiting aspect is not applicable to U14 footy

So you want to grade divisions by the size of the club FS ?? Obviously you have no idea how hard it is to run junior footy as it is without bring that into it !!