SAAFL Division 6 2013

[Mr Beefy]

I don't think the gap is that great between the top end of Div 7 and Div 6, the main difference is the level of concentration. You go to sleep for 20 minutes and the opposition bangs on 4 or 5 goals and it's game over. MP have been competitive for most games but have that drop off factor, but they have beaten 2 teams in the 5. Just an opinion on what I have seen.

Much alike Ingle Farm and Houghton last season who have had a strong year in Div 7 this season but were competitive last year in 6 in many games.

What's the solution then? Expand div 6 and merge 7 & 8?

Is there a problem? There is supposed to be a gap in quality between divisions

[zedman]

Curious..

Looking at Mitchell Parks results, does this:

a) Indicate a more competitive div 6 competition than recent seasons
b) Indicate the drastic gap between div 6 and 7.

Also the way Rosewater are travelling isn't too dissimilar to Woody South last season, so is the gap between 5 and 6 also growing??

Are some clubs destined to remain in these bottom 2 divisions??

IMO (and that only)

This is the best standard of div 6 I've ever seen
The standard between div 6 and 7 is huge
The standard between div 6 and 5 is more fitness based than skill level

And the crows suck

/agrees with carey on all 4 points

[morell]

Agree with carey on all 4 as well! This is quite easily the best standard of D6 I have seen.

Our side this year in D6 is a better side, talent wise, than we had last year in D7 to put it in perspective. Last year we went nigh on undefeated, this year struggling to avoid relegation.

I also think this years D7 is probably one of the better ones I have seen as well. Good to see such strong lower divisions!

[Phantom Gossiper]

Is there a problem? There is supposed to be a gap in quality between divisions

The problem appears to be not the gap in quality between the divisions if i am correct in summising peoples thoughts, but more so the gap between the top end of 7 and the rest i guess.

Problem with this is clubs are likely to yo-yo up and down whilst the poor sides in 7 remain a mile behind..

[marbles]

have 9 teams per division from Div 2 down to Div 7 with a bye - an all agrade comp.

dump the cgrades sides out

[Cohiba]

have 9 teams per division from Div 2 down to Div 7 with a bye - an all agrade comp.

dump the cgrades sides out

Before we throw out the baby with the bathwater, let's do a "chicken" test re dumping the C grades for a couple of seasons.........Henley Beach would be a good test case..... But we get to keep the D Grades....right Marbles.....

[marbles]

have 9 teams per division from Div 2 down to Div 7 with a bye - an all agrade comp.

dump the cgrades sides out

Before we throw out the baby with the bathwater, let's do a "chicken" test re dumping the C grades for a couple of seasons.........Henley Beach would be a good test case..... But we get to keep the D Grades....right Marbles.....

nah champ, not dump c-grades

div 7 would only have agrade sides with 9 teams & a bye, as would div 2 to div 6

expand the div 8 into a C-Grade/D-Grade super league, maybe requiring a div 9 due to a surplus of clubs that have C-Grades & D-Grades

[Yank Man]

Agree with carey on all 4 as well! This is quite easily the best standard of D6 I have seen.

Our side this year in D6 is a better side, talent wise, than we had last year in D7 to put it in perspective. Last year we went nigh on undefeated, this year struggling to avoid relegation.

I also think this years D7 is probably one of the better ones I have seen as well. Good to see such strong lower divisions!

So what you are saying morell is that the talent is stronger but they are not playing as a team. If they were then they would be pushing for a finals berth. As I said previously you have beaten 2 teams in the 5.

[Phantom Gossiper]

nah champ, not dump c-grades

div 7 would only have agrade sides with 9 teams & a bye, as would div 2 to div 6

expand the div 8 into a C-Grade/D-Grade super league, maybe requiring a div 9 due to a surplus of clubs that have C-Grades & D-Grades

Why not just expand the C divisions and have a promotion/relegation system?

Or move the C divisions into a Div 9?

There are some stand alone C grade teams that are very good and probably capable of being competitive - and better than some of the sides in 7, 7R, 8 & 8R

[Phantom Gossiper]

Agree with carey on all 4 as well! This is quite easily the best standard of D6 I have seen.

Our side this year in D6 is a better side, talent wise, than we had last year in D7 to put it in perspective. Last year we went nigh on undefeated, this year struggling to avoid relegation.

I also think this years D7 is probably one of the better ones I have seen as well. Good to see such strong lower divisions!

So what you are saying morell is that the talent is stronger but they are not playing as a team. If they were then they would be pushing for a finals berth. As I said previously you have beaten 2 teams in the 5.

Yank man is the missing link to success..

[Yank Man]

have 9 teams per division from Div 2 down to Div 7 with a bye - an all agrade comp.

dump the cgrades sides out

Before we throw out the baby with the bathwater, let's do a "chicken" test re dumping the C grades for a couple of seasons.........Henley Beach would be a good test case..... But we get to keep the D Grades....right Marbles.....

nah champ, not dump c-grades

div 7 would only have agrade sides with 9 teams & a bye, as would div 2 to div 6

expand the div 8 into a C-Grade/D-Grade super league, maybe requiring a div 9 due to a surplus of clubs that have C-Grades & D-Grades

If MP can hold on to their Div6 spot and Ingle Farm, Angle Vale or Houghton fight out Div 7 then problem solvered. All teams 1-6 will be A grades. Div's 7 and 8 then become a mix of C grades. That is the likely scenario I would think.

[Q.]

There is an interest from within clubs to have 9 teams and a couple of byes for each division. It's a long season for players, but particularly for volunteers, and having those extra weekends off keeps everyone motivated.

[Phantom Gossiper]

There is an interest from within clubs to have 9 teams and a couple of byes for each division. It's a long season for players, but particularly for volunteers, and having those extra weekends off keeps everyone motivated.

If a bye comes into play then I think the C grade divisions must follow suit.. but yes I think a bye would be a good idea.

[Phantom Gossiper]

If MP can hold on to their Div6 spot and Ingle Farm, Angle Vale or Houghton fight out Div 7 then problem solvered. All teams 1-6 will be A grades. Div's 7 and 8 then become a mix of C grades. That is the likely scenario I would think.

I hope MP can hold their spot and Ingle Farm come up so we can smash you candy cane looking mugs .. and beat you at football too

[LaughingKookaburra]

Like the idea Q. If they initialise this and have only the GF winner go up and 2 relegated sides go down then you would see the best Grand Finals you will ever see!!

[Grahaml]

Like the idea Q. If they initialise this and have only the GF winner go up and 2 relegated sides go down then you would see the best Grand Finals you will ever see!!

Premierships not a big enough incentive? I'd be amazed if any player got more of a thrill out of promotion than winning a flag.

[Phantom Gossiper]

Like the idea Q. If they initialise this and have only the GF winner go up and 2 relegated sides go down then you would see the best Grand Finals you will ever see!!

Premierships not a big enough incentive? I'd be amazed if any player got more of a thrill out of promotion than winning a flag.

Agreed.. but double incentive knowing that if you lost the big one you would then also have to endure another season in the lower grade! I agree with LK would make for some cracking GF's!

[LaughingKookaburra]

Like the idea Q. If they initialise this and have only the GF winner go up and 2 relegated sides go down then you would see the best Grand Finals you will ever see!!

Premierships not a big enough incentive? I'd be amazed if any player got more of a thrill out of promotion than winning a flag.

Obviously premierships matter most but how many teams celebrate their arses off after winning a 2nd semi or a prelim?

Only 1 team going up would be the ultimate kick in the guts to the GF loser was more so my point ..

[marbles]

There are 64 agrade sides in the 7 divisions

Each div could hav 9 sides except div 1, I guess

BUT if brighton or marion want to come in as Axeman states, the numbering gets messy

SO the current 70 teams in 7 divsions could become 72 with brighton/marion and the there could be 8 divisions of 9 teams as a result

BUT this way the cgrades would have to remain playing agrade sides in the lowest division, which to me is not good

[Q.]

BUT this way the cgrades would have to remain playing agrade sides in the lowest division, which to me is not good

Didn't seem to bother your club when you were winning.