SMA - the lies now start to surface

[pipers]

This thread is brilliant. I am glad I started it.

I for one am looking forward to watching the Power reserves team run around the redeveloped Adelaide Oval next year.

[Bulls forever]

Can someone please inform me with the issues with the Adelaide Oval and the SMA

I am not a member of the Crows
I am not a member of the Power
I am not a member of the SANFL
I am not a member of the SACA

I paid $75 to put my name down for an Ultimate membership. This was an attractive proposition because I would be able go to the football and the cricket, at the same ground, in a convenient location, for a relatively good price.

I actually love Football Park, but it is bloody $hit to get to.

I love sitting on the hill at the cricket but with the ever expanding seating, the hill I grew up on as a kid and is shrinking fast.

So I thought, **** it, this Adelaide Oval development is actually pretty good as it will give me an opportunity to go to the football and the cricket. I thought that the idea is to get people like me, who would not normally attend, to go to the football and cricket.

The way I understand it is that the SACA don't want the Ultimates to be transferable, the SANFL, Crows and Power do?

My question to the SACA - would there be an Adelaide Oval in the future if the state government invested in a multi purpose stadium instead of building a hospital? My guess is that Adelaide Oval would end up like the WACA, being used for a total of 30 something days in the year with the only real attendance being during the Test and ODI's. The SACA would be on life support if it did not die a slow, painful death.

My question to the SANFL - why do the memberships need to be transferable? Is this to ensure that the stadium looks full on the TV? Once you have the memberships paid for, you have the money whether people show up or not. I can't see a lot of money being made on cold pies and warm beer.

My message to the SACA is - pull your frigging tweed cap wearing heads in and realise you are a dying bunch of old boys club farts who will stagnate without the influx of fresh blood and money.

My message to football is - pull your frigging heads in too because you would most probably be in a worse position if you either remained at Football Park or signed up with some other bullshit operation designed to manage a multi purpose stadium.

I really don't see why this model can't work, people just need to get over themselves and realise they probably wouldn't have a prosperous future without each other.

The problem with the ultimate memberships is the SMA, SACA, SANFL, AFC and PAFC expected these would sell like hot cakes and people would be left in a euphoric state about the oval from when the ticket sales opened through to the 2014 season. These tickets ended up not being very popular at all and only around 6000 of the 12,200 tickets sold.

Given this lack of popularity it makes better commercial sense for the SANFL, AFC and PAFC to market their own meberships to football people, and SACA to keep thier existing membership packages.

The fact that only 800 members of the public took up the offer after the cricket and footy people had their exclusive period says that their isnt the over-demand from the public that all the officals expected

Does this have any impact on a Football Park member to become a member of the SACA now it has been split again?

Doggy, as I understand it, that is now not a realistic thing. The whole sticking point as it has been reported is that SACA refused to have the Ultimate Membership ticket as transferrable. Probably don't want the rif raf near their corporate boxes / seating, whereas footy wanted all in. As it stands, footy will have stadium from middle March till early October, cricket from early October to mid March and whilst they can bicker and fight, the SMA control the oval / stadium / facility and can tell both footy and cricket to pull their heads in. This differs from the early 70's model at Adelaide where the boof head SACA people controlled the stadium, despite the fact, footy probably provided the most income. I also understand that if SACA wish to have a meeting at the oval, they have to hire a room from the SMA.

Bulldog - can you clear this up for me with your educated past, I always thought liar was spelt as such, but during your argument with UK Fan, you continually spelt it lier. What is the correct spelling.

[RustyCage]

Lier is someone who lies down, rests in a horizontal position, etc.
Liar is someone who tells lies, doesn't tell the truth.

[UK Fan]

Did I read my membership form correctly. No access to SANFL games via SACA membership anymore.

So when SACA promised akll members we would lose nothing.

ANOTHER LIE!!!!

[The Sleeping Giant]

Did I read my membership form correctly. No access to SANFL games via SACA membership anymore.

So when SACA promised akll members we would lose nothing.

ANOTHER LIE!!!!

Maybe because there won't be any sanfl played at Adelaide Oval.

[Jim05]

Did I read my membership form correctly. No access to SANFL games via SACA membership anymore.

So when SACA promised akll members we would lose nothing.

ANOTHER LIE!!!!

Maybe because there won't be any sanfl played at Adelaide Oval.

Im led to believe that is the case.
SANFL will play several neutral games a season at AAMI and all finals will still be at AAMI

[The Sleeping Giant]

Well there is no lie then.

[Hondo]

....... but let's spend 3 pages talking about it anyway

[Hondo]

I drove past the AO the other weekend and thought it looked fantastic.

[UK Fan]

Well there is no lie then.

Apart from the fact we will lose our SANFL entitlements there is no lie. Why can't saca entitlements be past onto AAMI now SANFL/SACA in bed.

Was there SANFL played at Adelaide oval this year ??? Did saca members lose SANFL entitlements this year ??

[Hondo]

And here we go again ...

[The Sleeping Giant]

I'm out. I can't be involved in 2 circle jerks at once.

[UK Fan]

And here we go again ...

Sniping again

[Hondo]

We have a positive thread on the AO development on SAFooty to match this negative one. Some interesting comments in there!

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=38586&start=1

[UK Fan]

Sure there is mate

Loco!!

[Booney]

SACA caused the whole Ultimate membership package to go tits up because they are still a bunch of whinging old farts.

See comments above.

[Ecky]

SACA caused the whole Ultimate membership package to go tits up because they are still a bunch of whinging old farts.

See comments above.

I'm confused now Booney

If SACA had taken notice of us "whinging old farts" earlier in this thread (when we said it would never work even before it was released), they would have known it was doomed already then.

[MAY-Z]

SACA caused the whole Ultimate membership package to go tits up because they are still a bunch of whinging old farts.

See comments above.

No, the South Australian public who didn't buy the tickets caused that.

For what was meant to be a desired product a sell rate of just over 50% was pretty poor.

Football people love to blame the SACA for the whole public not wanting them, but I know plenty of football people who didn't take them up due to the fact they would lose their club membership rights.

[Booney]

SACA caused the whole Ultimate membership package to go tits up because they are still a bunch of whinging old farts.

See comments above.

I'm confused now Booney

If SACA had taken notice of us "whinging old farts" earlier in this thread (when we said it would never work even before it was released), they would have known it was doomed already then.

Hey, I didn't take the offer up but know plenty who would have if cricket tickets were transferable. I might have if it was the case, but that was SACA driven, yes? I dont mean the SACA members, but the SACA chiefs themselves.

[Armytank]

Can I ask, Who owns Adelaide Oval?