AFL Reserves Discussion...

[smac]

From what I hear the directors will be swayed by the $$$ and false promises to save the SANFL. Integrity stands for FA
Compromise Stiff Cheddar. There we have it

From what I hear, nothing is close to decided and all rumours are complete bullshit.

[LPH]

From what I hear the directors will be swayed by the $$$ and false promises to save the SANFL. Integrity stands for FA
Compromise Stiff Cheddar. There we have it

From what I hear, nothing is close to decided and all rumours are complete bullshit.

That's very heartening to hear

[Quarterman]

Wonder if these league directors have the power to force clubs to agree.

Aaaahhhhh Jim, the league directors ARE the clubs with the exception of PAFC who are voteless. The 9th vote is Rob Kerin who votes on behalf of the league.

[on the rails]

Wonder if these league directors have the power to force clubs to agree.

Aaaahhhhh Jim, the league directors ARE the clubs with the exception of PAFC who are voteless. The 9th vote is Rob Kerin who votes on behalf of the league.

Rob Kerin gets no vote re the AFL Reserves.

[Jim05]

Wonder if these league directors have the power to force clubs to agree.

Aaaahhhhh Jim, the league directors ARE the clubs with the exception of PAFC who are voteless. The 9th vote is Rob Kerin who votes on behalf of the league.

Yes but our club is voting NO so my point being that IF we are outvoted would the club accept the outcome or decide to pursue it further?

[UK Fan]

http://m.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/b ... 6681606698

[JK]

Wonder if these league directors have the power to force clubs to agree.

Aaaahhhhh Jim, the league directors ARE the clubs with the exception of PAFC who are voteless. The 9th vote is Rob Kerin who votes on behalf of the league.

Yes but our club is voting NO so my point being that IF we are outvoted would the club accept the outcome or decide to pursue it further?

Our club isn't necessarily voting NO - It's our current stance on what's been presented thus far, and taking into consideration timeframes.

[Macca19]

Can someone tell me why the Port model has been shut down so much? Is it the inequality argument only? On face value, the Port model seems to do less damage to the SANFL than Adelaides does.

[smac]

For me, partly inequality and partly no longer trust anything from your club and want them to stop messing around and piss off.

[Ecky]

LEH, UK Fan and Centurion,

Well done on organising the petition and putting the "no" campaign in the media spotlight. Rucci is now mentioning you guys directly or indirectly every day now

My question is: how are you going to coordinate the petition so that the maximum number of signatures are obtained? Unfortunately the weather isn't helping this weekend (forecast max of 11 only for Saturday with possible hail ) - crowds will be low and the people who do go will be reluctant to get their hands out of their pockets to sign something. So to get anything near the quoted figure of 5000 is going to need a lot of co-ordinated hard work.

My fear is that it will all become too hard and you will only get 58 (say) signatures, and then Rucci et al will then keep quoting this as proof that the opposition to it all is coming from just a very very small (but vocal) minority, so the club presidents have nothing to fear by voting yes. So I can see that this could actually do more harm than good.

So what plans do you have in place to ensure that the petition will be successful?

[Ecky]

Can someone tell me why the Port model has been shut down so much? Is it the inequality argument only? On face value, the Port model seems to do less damage to the SANFL than Ports does.

I think that most people agree that this model is less damaging than the Crows one, but we simply don't want ANY reserves teams in the SANFL League comp, no matter what structure they have around them. Sorry!

[UK Fan]

Can someone tell me why the Port model has been shut down so much? Is it the inequality argument only? On face value, the Port model seems to do less damage to the SANFL than Ports does.

Under crows model centrals get Salisbury /mawson lakes back.

[TimmiesChin]

Can someone tell me why the Port model has been shut down so much? Is it the inequality argument only? On face value, the Port model seems to do less damage to the SANFL than Ports does.

Under crows model centrals get Salisbury /mawson lakes back.

Please tell me that's not your reason for preferring one over the other.

Ports model gives some zones back as well, so in all likelyhood you would get these zones back anyway.

[Jim05]

Can someone tell me why the Port model has been shut down so much? Is it the inequality argument only? On face value, the Port model seems to do less damage to the SANFL than Ports does.

I think that most people agree that this model is less damaging than the Crows one, but we simply don't want ANY reserves teams in the SANFL League comp, no matter what structure they have around them. Sorry!

Same

[areaman]

Can someone tell me why the Port model has been shut down so much? Is it the inequality argument only? On face value, the Port model seems to do less damage to the SANFL than Ports does.

I think that most people agree that this model is less damaging than the Crows one, but we simply don't want ANY reserves teams in the SANFL League comp, no matter what structure they have around them. Sorry!

Same

We've had over 2 months of debate and 110 pages of discussion on this topic.

At what point will it sink in that we just don't want any form of AFL Reserves teams under ANY model?

The Crows' preferred model is unacceptable.

The Power's preferred model is unacceptable.

This is not a Crows v Port issue!!!!

[UK Fan]

LEH, UK Fan and Centurion,

Well done on organising the petition and putting the "no" campaign in the media spotlight. Rucci is now mentioning you guys directly or indirectly every day now

My question is: how are you going to coordinate the petition so that the maximum number of signatures are obtained? Unfortunately the weather isn't helping this weekend (forecast max of 11 only for Saturday with possible hail ) - crowds will be low and the people who do go will be reluctant to get their hands out of their pockets to sign something. So to get anything near the quoted figure of 5000 is going to need a lot of co-ordinated hard work.

My fear is that it will all become too hard and you will only get 58 (say) signatures, and then Rucci et al will then keep quoting this as proof that the opposition to it all is coming from just a very very small (but vocal) minority, so the club presidents have nothing to fear by voting yes. So I can see that this could actually do more harm than good.

So what plans do you have in place to ensure that the petition will be successful?

3000 is what we are after 5000 (advertisers quote) would be nice.

Personally the whole campaign has a few goals for me. firstly to remind the presidents who they are really accountable to and who as president they are here to serve.

Give some concrete evidence to SANFL that there will be loss of members out of this. A list of 2000-3000 names of people who will refuse to attend at $14 as opposed to possibly attracting 2000-4000 at $10.

Thirdly get some media attention to the voting no argument. I believe the SGM option is now firmly at the front of presidents minds after listening to Daves "emotional" speech on Saturday. they(presidents) understand a vote for yes could mean the end of your term as president .

No guarantees it will work but the response I have had since the article has been encouraging.

[UK Fan]

Can someone tell me why the Port model has been shut down so much? Is it the inequality argument only? On face value, the Port model seems to do less damage to the SANFL than Ports does.

Under crows model centrals get Salisbury /mawson lakes back.

Ports model gives some zones back as well, so in all likelyhood you would get these zones back anyway.

Please tell me that's not your rebuttal on why I should vote port ???

[TimmiesChin]

Can someone tell me why the Port model has been shut down so much? Is it the inequality argument only? On face value, the Port model seems to do less damage to the SANFL than Ports does.

Under crows model centrals get Salisbury /mawson lakes back.

Ports model gives some zones back as well, so in all likelyhood you would get these zones back anyway.

Please tell me that's not your rebuttal on why I should vote port ???

I'm not the one citing an irrational reason.

I don't care what you vote as you don't have one, and I'm happy with the status quo.

I'm simply calling you out on you reason for preferring the crows model over ports.

[CENTURION]

LEH, UK Fan and Centurion,

Well done on organising the petition and putting the "no" campaign in the media spotlight. Rucci is now mentioning you guys directly or indirectly every day now

My question is: how are you going to coordinate the petition so that the maximum number of signatures are obtained? Unfortunately the weather isn't helping this weekend (forecast max of 11 only for Saturday with possible hail ) - crowds will be low and the people who do go will be reluctant to get their hands out of their pockets to sign something. So to get anything near the quoted figure of 5000 is going to need a lot of co-ordinated hard work.

My fear is that it will all become too hard and you will only get 58 (say) signatures, and then Rucci et al will then keep quoting this as proof that the opposition to it all is coming from just a very very small (but vocal) minority, so the club presidents have nothing to fear by voting yes. So I can see that this could actually do more harm than good.

So what plans do you have in place to ensure that the petition will be successful?

3000 is what we are after 5000 (advertisers quote) would be nice.

Personally the whole campaign has a few goals for me. firstly to remind the presidents who they are really accountable to and who as president they are here to serve.

Give some concrete evidence to SANFL that there will be loss of members out of this. A list of 2000-3000 names of people who will refuse to attend at $14 as opposed to possibly attracting 2000-4000 at $10.

Thirdly get some media attention to the voting no argument. I believe the SGM option is now firmly at the front of presidents minds after listening to Daves "emotional" speech on Saturday. they(presidents) understand a vote for yes could mean the end of your term as president .

No guarantees it will work but the response I have had since the article has been encouraging.

yes, the weather this weekend isn't good but we will run this petition for about 1 month. Also, we don't just have to obtain signatures at the footy, I got some at the pub last night.

[JK]

LEH, UK Fan and Centurion,

Well done on organising the petition and putting the "no" campaign in the media spotlight. Rucci is now mentioning you guys directly or indirectly every day now

My question is: how are you going to coordinate the petition so that the maximum number of signatures are obtained? Unfortunately the weather isn't helping this weekend (forecast max of 11 only for Saturday with possible hail ) - crowds will be low and the people who do go will be reluctant to get their hands out of their pockets to sign something. So to get anything near the quoted figure of 5000 is going to need a lot of co-ordinated hard work.

My fear is that it will all become too hard and you will only get 58 (say) signatures, and then Rucci et al will then keep quoting this as proof that the opposition to it all is coming from just a very very small (but vocal) minority, so the club presidents have nothing to fear by voting yes. So I can see that this could actually do more harm than good.

So what plans do you have in place to ensure that the petition will be successful?

3000 is what we are after 5000 (advertisers quote) would be nice.

Personally the whole campaign has a few goals for me. firstly to remind the presidents who they are really accountable to and who as president they are here to serve.

Give some concrete evidence to SANFL that there will be loss of members out of this. A list of 2000-3000 names of people who will refuse to attend at $14 as opposed to possibly attracting 2000-4000 at $10.

Thirdly get some media attention to the voting no argument. I believe the SGM option is now firmly at the front of presidents minds after listening to Daves "emotional" speech on Saturday. they(presidents) understand a vote for yes could mean the end of your term as president .

No guarantees it will work but the response I have had since the article has been encouraging.

yes, the weather this weekend isn't good but we will run this petition for about 1 month. Also, we don't just have to obtain signatures at the footy, I got some at the pub last night.

Foxtel Cup GF could be a good time to try and get a few neutral supporters together? (with pen in hand)