AFL Reserves Discussion...

[Pseudo]

Timmy, you've made a bit of sense elsewhere but to continue with this line that says the SANFL clubs want to get rid of the Maggies is just wrong.

Don't get me wrong, I don't believe there is a SANFL wide vendetta, but its would be naive to think there are not some pockets who would like to see Port fail, or as a minimum be uncompetitive.
I'd imagine the general feel would be they want the magpies to remain but be a side that struggles to make the finals.

No need to change the current setup then.

[TimmiesChin]

I don't think many would mind the 18 year old leaving the club and playing against them, but players like Callinan, Rowe etc. who are gun players at SANFL level getting rookie listed and then spending the majority of the season playing against your side doesn't sit right with me. Theoretically Adelaide and Port could pick 2-3 mature rookies out of the SANFL each year. That is fine if they are getting AFL game time, but not if they're in the best players against your club.

You could put rules in place to cover these sort of situations, after all it would generally be the younger that the AFL clubs would want playing together.

That being said though, I'd imagine right now centrals have callinan available to then but aren't paying a cent for him, so in effect they could use that money to recruit a replacement and end up with both him and his 'replacement ' lining up in the same team.

[UK Fan]

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[JohnnyG]

Except the VFL have already publicly stated they won't entertain the idea of non-Victorian clubs entering their comp.

so its not only the SANFL that dont wnat them? guess you better get stuck into the victorians for being anti change then

purely from a player development standpoint i would have thought the vfl would be a better fit than the sanfl. playing against other afl listed players more often than not would surely be better for the crows and power? the afl clubs couldnt be putting money in front of the ultimate conditions to develop their players surely?

OR, how about the VFL believes their competition is for VICTORIAN clubs, while the $ANFL is for SOUTH AUSTRALIAN clubs. Last time I looked, the AFC and PAFC fitted the latter criteria.

Perhaps that should read the AFC fits the criteria, but PAFC is for itself and itself only - no regard at all for SA clubs or SA

[Big Phil]

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It must just be the angle of the shot

[UK Fan]

Just checked out the photo in the advertiser today and my package looks massive.

Chicks will love it

It must just be the angle of the shot

Thats what my wife said

I dare chapman and kochie to stand half mast for their cause!!!

[StrayDog]

OR, how about the VFL believes their competition is for VICTORIAN clubs, while the $ANFL is for SOUTH AUSTRALIAN clubs. Last time I looked, the AFC and PAF¢ fitted the latter criteria.

Edited for consistency.

AFL Victoria were happy to (temporarily) host the Gold Coast.

More to the point, a Tasmanian rep side played in the VFL from 2002 ( .) Who knows, Melbourne based VFL sides might still be running around Bellerive every other week if AFL Tasmania hadn't ended the Devils in favour of a state league restructure after 2008.

Oh, and the last time I looked ...

the SANFL is for state league clubs, the AFC and PAFC dont fit that criteria

[StrayDog]

Just checked out the photo in the advertiser today and my package looks massive.

Chicks will love it

It must just be the angle of the shot

Thats what my wife said

I dare chapman and kochie to stand half mast for their cause!!!

Perhaps, photographed in comparable company, it mightn't be something they'd be drawing attention to.

Just sayin'.

[beenreal]

The 2.5 hours of playing is the most important time of the week in terms of player development. Take Mitch Grigg for example and assume The Crows want to play him as a high half forward this week v Geelong. There is no doubt in my mind that the best preparation he can get for this is to have played the exact same role in their reserves side for a month and been supervised and had feedback delivered by Crows coaching staff. There is no doubt that having a reserves side would be better for Adelaide than the current situation. The most convenient existing competition for them to play in is the SANFL league comp.

Crows reserves in SANFL league comp = Best result for Crows

That is not the most relevant question though because it is the 8 SANFL clubs that will grant/deny permission for them to play, so the real question is:

What is the best scenario for 8 SANFL clubs?

I have left Port out of the above as I'm not sure whether they want to have an SANFL club with underage sides, Power reserves team, both, or all of the above in 1 team.

With 42 players on their list, the 2 options on the table are basically where the Crows and Port will acquire/borrow/negotiate the "top up" players necessary to field a side in the SANFL. We already know the AFC wants these players to be rotated from the 8 clubs.

PAFC Preferred Model:
AFL players not selected in the PAFC AFL team play for the Magpies. There is a genuine pathway for local zone players sitting below the SANFL League team to provide the additional (top up) players from within the one club. It doesn't need to be created or negotiated because it already exists.

[UK Fan]

Just checked out the photo in the advertiser today and my package looks massive.

Chicks will love it

It must just be the angle of the shot

Thats what my wife said

I dare chapman and kochie to stand half mast for their cause!!!

Perhaps, photographed in comparable company, it mightn't be something they'd be drawing attention to.

Just sayin'.

Pervert

[Booney]

Just checked out the photo in the advertiser today and my package looks massive.

Chicks will love it

Are you standing on a milk crate?

[MAY-Z]

The 2.5 hours of playing is the most important time of the week in terms of player development. Take Mitch Grigg for example and assume The Crows want to play him as a high half forward this week v Geelong. There is no doubt in my mind that the best preparation he can get for this is to have played the exact same role in their reserves side for a month and been supervised and had feedback delivered by Crows coaching staff. There is no doubt that having a reserves side would be better for Adelaide than the current situation. The most convenient existing competition for them to play in is the SANFL league comp.

Crows reserves in SANFL league comp = Best result for Crows

That is not the most relevant question though because it is the 8 SANFL clubs that will grant/deny permission for them to play, so the real question is:

What is the best scenario for 8 SANFL clubs?

I have left Port out of the above as I'm not sure whether they want to have an SANFL club with underage sides, Power reserves team, both, or all of the above in 1 team.

thats easy to say for positions like midfield, but where does ben dowdell play with angus graham in teh side? how do both of them improve their ruck work if they hae to play if 50/50?

would hartigan, sam shaw and luke thompson be able to play a similar role as each other in the crows reserves?

[Jim05]

The 2.5 hours of playing is the most important time of the week in terms of player development. Take Mitch Grigg for example and assume The Crows want to play him as a high half forward this week v Geelong. There is no doubt in my mind that the best preparation he can get for this is to have played the exact same role in their reserves side for a month and been supervised and had feedback delivered by Crows coaching staff. There is no doubt that having a reserves side would be better for Adelaide than the current situation. The most convenient existing competition for them to play in is the SANFL league comp.

Crows reserves in SANFL league comp = Best result for Crows

That is not the most relevant question though because it is the 8 SANFL clubs that will grant/deny permission for them to play, so the real question is:

What is the best scenario for 8 SANFL clubs?

I have left Port out of the above as I'm not sure whether they want to have an SANFL club with underage sides, Power reserves team, both, or all of the above in 1 team.

With 42 players on their list, the 2 options on the table are basically where the Crows and Port will acquire/borrow/negotiate the "top up" players necessary to field a side in the SANFL. We already know the AFC wants these players to be rotated from the 8 clubs.

PAFC Preferred Model:
AFL players not selected in the PAFC AFL team play for the Magpies. There is a genuine pathway for local zone players sitting below the SANFL League team to provide the additional (top up) players from within the one club. It doesn't need to be created or negotiated because it already exists.

Thats why I believe the Cows model will be squashed by the other clubs.
No club in their right mind would allow their players to be rotated in and out of a Cows reserve side.
Ive said all along their must be a rule enforced where no one on a current SANFL list can be used a top up player.
If the Cows want to join its up to them to go to the country or ammo leagues and source players

[beenreal]

The 2.5 hours of playing is the most important time of the week in terms of player development. Take Mitch Grigg for example and assume The Crows want to play him as a high half forward this week v Geelong. There is no doubt in my mind that the best preparation he can get for this is to have played the exact same role in their reserves side for a month and been supervised and had feedback delivered by Crows coaching staff. There is no doubt that having a reserves side would be better for Adelaide than the current situation. The most convenient existing competition for them to play in is the SANFL league comp.

Crows reserves in SANFL league comp = Best result for Crows

That is not the most relevant question though because it is the 8 SANFL clubs that will grant/deny permission for them to play, so the real question is:

What is the best scenario for 8 SANFL clubs?

I have left Port out of the above as I'm not sure whether they want to have an SANFL club with underage sides, Power reserves team, both, or all of the above in 1 team.

With 42 players on their list, the 2 options on the table are basically where the Crows and Port will acquire/borrow/negotiate the "top up" players necessary to field a side in the SANFL. We already know the AFC wants these players to be rotated from the 8 clubs.

PAFC Preferred Model:
AFL players not selected in the PAFC AFL team play for the Magpies. There is a genuine pathway for local zone players sitting below the SANFL League team to provide the additional (top up) players from within the one club. It doesn't need to be created or negotiated because it already exists.

Thats why I believe the Cows model will be squashed by the other clubs.
No club in their right mind would allow their players to be rotated in and out of a Cows reserve side.
Ive said all along their must be a rule enforced where no one on a current SANFL list can be used a top up player.
If the Cows want to join its up to them to go to the country or ammo leagues and source players

The Crows version that you scorn has already been declared as the preferred version by the SANFL League Directors.

[Jim05]

Of course it is Beeny, they just see the $.
Wonder if these league directors have the power to force clubs to agree.
I would love Norwood to thumb their nose and quite simply tell them they are not having any of our players
The Port model is far better even though I want neither to eventuate

[Reddeer]

From what I hear the directors will be swayed by the $$$ and false promises to save the SANFL. Integrity stands for FA
Compromise Stiff Cheddar. There we have it

[Dirko]

Just checked out the photo in the advertiser today and my package looks massive.

Pretty harsh calling LEH a package...

[UK Fan]

Just checked out the photo in the advertiser today and my package looks massive.

Chicks will love it

Are you standing on a milk crate?

I'm short but not that short

[Dutchy]

Just checked out the photo in the advertiser today and my package looks massive.

Chicks will love it

Are you standing on a milk crate?

I'm short but not that short

Rumours that whufc was there as well but even on his tippy toes didnt make the shot!

[on the rails]

Rumours that whufc was there as well but even on his tippy toes didnt make the shot!

Haha - GOLD there Dutchy!