AFL Reserves Discussion...

[CUTTERMAN]

When it comes to bleating, Port supporters are definite flag contenders.

[Lynwood]

And on who are true Port Supporters the Magpies have just over PAFC have 40000 members, 5000 are Magpie Members and only 1500 are members of both. SO there are only 1500 true supporters who are members of both.

when you post on here "f**k the power" then clearly you aint a true PAFC supporter.

Show the post where I wrote that?

This true supporter rubbish has turned people off of the magpies because people like you do not allow them to go to games and enjoy the match. You are more concerned over who they follow in the AFL. Who cares it is a different comp and clearly as I wrote the club has only 1500 true supporters. Funny thing is I never hear power supporters question who people follow in the SANFL. If everyone was a true supporter as you want then they would have to go to both games. Also what of those people who have started supporting the Magpies since 97? are they allowed to just go to games and enjoy their footy or do they have to go through the do you support the power security check?

[therisingblues]

Well bloody said Lynwood! Some very good points in there.
You are going a long way to restoring my faith in the old Magpie. Your Power friends seem to think footy begins and ends in the AFL and take our faith in the SANFL as some sort of affront.
Hope for your sakes and for the SANFL's that we find a way of separating you from your younger yet bigger overbearing brother.
Maybe then there'll be a legitimate future for the Maggies in the SANFL.

[kickinit]

And on who are true Port Supporters the Magpies have just over PAFC have 40000 members, 5000 are Magpie Members and only 1500 are members of both. SO there are only 1500 true supporters who are members of both.

when you post on here "f**k the power" then clearly you aint a true PAFC supporter.

Show the post where I wrote that?

This true supporter rubbish has turned people off of the magpies because people like you do not allow them to go to games and enjoy the match. You are more concerned over who they follow in the AFL. Who cares it is a different comp and clearly as I wrote the club has only 1500 true supporters. Funny thing is I never hear power supporters question who people follow in the SANFL. If everyone was a true supporter as you want then they would have to go to both games. Also what of those people who have started supporting the Magpies since 97? are they allowed to just go to games and enjoy their footy or do they have to go through the do you support the power security check?

maybe you should go back and read some post. Seeing as you started quoting me when I was talking to someone else not you. How can you sit here and have a crack at the football club that your apparently a true and loyal supporter of. If you don't like the way the club is doing things why in heck are you a supporter. When i get told i'm only a bangwagon supporter of the PAFC yet someone who is a magpies only supporter is apparently a loyal supporter.

[kickinit]

Kickinit.....you seem to be a passionate Port supporter which is great.
Serious question though.......who would you prefer to see win a premiership this year......Maggies or Power?
I'd be interested to hear other PAFC supporters thoughts as well.........and don't just say both.

Are you serious. Like you said I'm a passionate supporter so why in the heck wouldn't I want to see any port side win a flag. I would love to see u/16 through to the power win a flag. Like I said I hold a magpies and power membership and like any supporter I want to see my side win flags.

[on the rails]

kickinit - I would think even the other one eyed Port posters on here such as booney, macca and beenreal "cringe" at some of the rubbish you post? The rest of us wonder how you passed "basket weaving 101"?

[Jim05]

Why does a supporter have to follow both Port sides kickinit?
I know Norwood and North supporters who follow the Power but hate the Magpies and I know Magpie supporters who barrack for other AFL teams. There are even former Port Magpie players that dislike the Power, why is that so hard to understand?

[on the rails]

All it is going to do is guarentee the spuds like Danny Butcher a SANFL League Game when he is clearly not good enough to get one under the current system. The only reason he is playing league at the Magpies is the PAFC can't lose face after moving him from North's reserves for development which would be admitting we were right if he was dropped. He is getting a game under false pretences to try and justify Port's grand plan!

What a load of rubbish. Hes had a decent enough year, has played decent football as a stopping defender and has been deserving of his spot in the team.

*BUMP* Played reserves today did he not? So much for his development being hampered at North so hence his move to Alberton! Only so long the "false pretence" could continue at Alberton gifting "spuds" a league game! Might be in trouble next year if you do get a Reserves Team in the SANFL and the rest of the Magpies disappear? Port will have nowhere to hide spuds like him except maybe in the Ammos. No wonder Kochie is having a rethink!

[Ian]

Why does a supporter have to follow both Port sides kickinit?
I know Norwood and North supporters who follow the Power but hate the Magpies and I know Magpie supporters who barrack for other AFL teams. There are even former Port Magpie players that dislike the Power, why is that so hard to understand?

spot on, 1 of my best mates is a Sturt/Power supporter, another a North/Power supporter, I know 2 or 3 one eyed life time Magpies supporters that support Collingwood and despise everything the Power stands for, a couple more that have supported the Crows since their inception, it doesn't make them any less a supporter of the Magpies, or the other any less of a Power supporter.

[therisingblues]

They should be trying to expand their supporter base rather than making it exclusive.
They'll just blame the SANFL if they don't get the numbers I guess.

[Macca19]

All it is going to do is guarentee the spuds like Danny Butcher a SANFL League Game when he is clearly not good enough to get one under the current system. The only reason he is playing league at the Magpies is the PAFC can't lose face after moving him from North's reserves for development which would be admitting we were right if he was dropped. He is getting a game under false pretences to try and justify Port's grand plan!

What a load of rubbish. Hes had a decent enough year, has played decent football as a stopping defender and has been deserving of his spot in the team.

*BUMP* Played reserves today did he not? So much for his development being hampered at North so hence his move to Alberton! Only so long the "false pretence" could continue at Alberton gifting "spuds" a league game! Might be in trouble next year if you do get a Reserves Team in the SANFL and the rest of the Magpies disappear? Port will have nowhere to hide spuds like him except maybe in the Ammos. No wonder Kochie is having a rethink!

Your opinion on Port Adelaide footballers means literally nothing to me.

[on the rails]

Your opinion on Port Adelaide footballers means literally nothing to me.

lol - is that your best response!

For what it is worth I don't care too much for your one eyed selfish anti SANFL sh*t you post on here so if you continue to post it I will continue to attack you!

[Strawb]

I went along to watch Werribee play Casey today and granted it was a local game the club is more than looking forward to playing Port Melbourne for a bigger gate taking. I don't know the full crowd but honestly if there was 1000 people I would be surprised.

[Wedgie]

All it is going to do is guarentee the spuds like Danny Butcher a SANFL League Game when he is clearly not good enough to get one under the current system. The only reason he is playing league at the Magpies is the PAFC can't lose face after moving him from North's reserves for development which would be admitting we were right if he was dropped. He is getting a game under false pretences to try and justify Port's grand plan!

What a load of rubbish. Hes had a decent enough year, has played decent football as a stopping defender and has been deserving of his spot in the team.

*BUMP* Played reserves today did he not? So much for his development being hampered at North so hence his move to Alberton! Only so long the "false pretence" could continue at Alberton gifting "spuds" a league game! Might be in trouble next year if you do get a Reserves Team in the SANFL and the rest of the Magpies disappear? Port will have nowhere to hide spuds like him except maybe in the Ammos. No wonder Kochie is having a rethink!

Your opinion on Port Adelaide footballers means literally nothing to me.

He made a fair point which I assume you have no comeback for?
I feel sorry for Port supporters that must be just as confused and frustrated with their own club as others are when trying to argue any logic when there is none.

[kickinit]

Why does a supporter have to follow both Port sides kickinit?
I know Norwood and North supporters who follow the Power but hate the Magpies and I know Magpie supporters who barrack for other AFL teams. There are even former Port Magpie players that dislike the Power, why is that so hard to understand?

anyone can follow who ever they like. But dont say your a loyal and true PAFC supporter and then go on and have a crack at the club.

[on the rails]

kickinit - I would think even the other one eyed Port posters on here such as booney, macca and beenreal "cringe" at some of the rubbish you post? The rest of us wonder how you passed "basket weaving 101"?

rubbish I post. I know a lot of people wonder how you get away with your abusive pm's. But then again I suppose get away with it when your under wedgie's desk hey.

Another classic example of me proving my point! LOL

[tipper]

Why does a supporter have to follow both Port sides kickinit?
I know Norwood and North supporters who follow the Power but hate the Magpies and I know Magpie supporters who barrack for other AFL teams. There are even former Port Magpie players that dislike the Power, why is that so hard to understand?

anyone can follow who ever they like. But dont say your a loyal and true PAFC supporter and then go on and have a crack at the club.

personally I think that a true supporter would hold his (or her) club accountable if they thought they were doing the wrong thing, or at the very least ask questions to clarify that their actions were correct.

its people who blindly follow anything that worry me more. I don't trust anyone on blind faith, its naive to think that just because someone has risen to a position of authority they are good at what they do, or even that they have the best interests of the body they represent at heart.

I have no problem in members and supporters or north Adelaide having a crack at the club. they have stopped some stupid decisions at board level being made in the past, and may do so again in the future. and I am sure that if North cave in to the stupid afl reserves push that there will be consequences at the agm. there have still not been any benefits presented that would cause me to think that the reserves are a good idea.

[on the rails]

Alot of comment on why the AFL doesn't run it's own stand alone Resserves Comp comes down to cost in the main to flying an increased list of players and support staff around the country, so if the AFL use cost as the main excuse then how do they justify (1) Fudning in principal the NEAFL conferences and the intersate travel for teams between the two - because they see that as game development? (2) Who is funding the expansion teams to the tune of millions a year - the AFL of course and in the name of development re expanding the brand.

The ethos behind the want for AFL Teams to have Reserves Teams is to develop their full list together which is fair enough and definately reasonable so why are the wishes of exisiting teams in traditional Australian Rules states not allowed to develop for the overall interests of the game.

The Gold Coast may make it and are at least competitive but the GWS Giants look like they could be a massived failure with the AFL throwing good money after poor money in a City that took decades to partly embrace and accept the Swans who are popular by part to on field success to drive it off field.

The AFL could, to be honest be better at utilising it's massive income / profits for all it's clubs not just those in non Ausssie Rules states? Funding a proper national reserves comp would at least take away the attack on the integrity of the State League Comps who are the ones who suffer because of the selfish / collective needs of individual clubs and the AFL as a whole.

[whufc]

Why does a supporter have to follow both Port sides kickinit?
I know Norwood and North supporters who follow the Power but hate the Magpies and I know Magpie supporters who barrack for other AFL teams. There are even former Port Magpie players that dislike the Power, why is that so hard to understand?

anyone can follow who ever they like. But dont say your a loyal and true PAFC supporter and then go on and have a crack at the club.

personally I think that a true supporter would hold his (or her) club accountable if they thought they were doing the wrong thing, or at the very least ask questions to clarify that their actions were correct.

its people who blindly follow anything that worry me more. I don't trust anyone on blind faith, its naive to think that just because someone has risen to a position of authority they are good at what they do, or even that they have the best interests of the body they represent at heart.

I have no problem in members and supporters or north Adelaide having a crack at the club. they have stopped some stupid decisions at board level being made in the past, and may do so again in the future. and I am sure that if North cave in to the stupid afl reserves push that there will be consequences at the agm. there have still not been any benefits presented that would cause me to think that the reserves are a good idea.

Couldn't agree more great post

[Jim05]

Alot of comment on why the AFL doesn't run it's own stand alone Resserves Comp comes down to cost in the main to flying an increased list of players and support staff around the country, so if the AFL use cost as the main excuse then how do they justify (1) Fudning in principal the NEAFL conferences and the intersate travel for teams between the two - because they see that as game development? (2) Who is funding the expansion teams to the tune of millions a year - the AFL of course and in the name of development re expanding the brand.

The ethos behind the want for AFL Teams to have Reserves Teams is to develop their full list together which is fair enough and definately reasonable so why are the wishes of exisiting teams in traditional Australian Rules states not allowed to develop for the overall interests of the game.

The Gold Coast may make it and are at least competitive but the GWS Giants look like they could be a massived failure with the AFL throwing good money after poor money in a City that took decades to partly embrace and accept the Swans who are popular by part to on field success to drive it off field.

The AFL could, to be honest be better at utilising it's massive income / profits for all it's clubs not just those in non Ausssie Rules states? Funding a proper national reserves comp would at least take away the attack on the integrity of the State League Comps who are the ones who suffer because of the selfish / collective needs of individual clubs and the AFL as a whole.

Spot on
Make all the reserves games curtain raisers, then all the medical, support staff can be at the same venue