AFL Reserves Discussion...

[Pseudo]

Fuller does make a lot of sense and playing in the reserves is the best option all round, which means it wont be adopted of course.

Second best option, behind AFL clubs fielding their reserves in Someone Else's Competition.

[Harry the Horse]

The meeting is over for this evening.
Initial details sketchy but clubs standing firm on no junior teams for Port and maintaining the integrity of competition.
No other info at the moment.

[UK Fan]

Time for eagles and bays fans to hold an agm if you are against this.

Check out how many signatures are required for this to occur and get some answer from your CEOs IMHO!!!

[UK Fan]

Fuller does make a lot of sense and playing in the reserves is the best option all round, which means it wont be adopted of course.

Second best option, behind AFL clubs fielding their reserves in Someone Else's Competition.

Agreed best option for sa football. Would like to know reasons why crows/power are against the idea.

I know some port fans who agree reserves is the best option for all.

[Aerie]

If for some reason the Reserves must come in and if the aim is to strengthen the competition in general, Port's model is the best way IMO. The Crows model makes a mockery of the competition and two teams like that would reduce the competition to be farcical on occasions. The Crows model can't pass the "Integrity" test.

A tenth league club, with full junior set up, will also weaken everyone and the cost to set this up would not be worth it.

The only way I can see Reserves coming in and the competition remaining relevant is if the Crows take over one of the 8 existing clubs. If this was to happen I reckon 80% of the supporters would disappear, so it could only be one of South, West or Eagles. You would hope that those 80% could be replaced by new supporters.

West have a small supporter base, are struggling financially, currently a strong team, not much success for a long time.
Eagles have a small supporter base, are a relatively new club who has already gone through disruption with the merger, ok financially, currently a strong team, very successful on field since merger.
South have a small supporter base, strong financially, currently struggling in all grades, are relatively new to their area and have struggled to make an impact and have not won a premiership for 50 years.

IMO South would be the team you'd sacrifice and the responsibility of the Adelaide Football Club would be to strengthen SANFL football in the southern suburbs - better than what South would. Re-brand as the South Adelaide Crows.

You'd then have an AFL team north of the Torrens with links to the Magpies, Eagles, North and Central and a team south of the Torrens linking South, Glenelg, Sturt, West and Norwood.

It would be crap for the South supporters, but would be relatively pain free for everyone else and the competition has potential to be stronger if the Crows can bring more support from the southern suburbs to SANFL footy than South do. It would also cost the Crows little as everything is set up there and running well.

My preference is for the SANFL to be in a strong enough position to tell the AFL clubs to piss off, but if not, one of the weaker clubs needs to be sacrificed so the status quo of the competition is effected minimally.

[on the rails]

Aerie you normally make sense and whilst it is well structured the idea is absurd.

[on the rails]

SANFL (as expected) stock standard press release re the meeting tonight:

http://www.sanfl.com.au/news/sanfl_news/2110/

[kickinit]

Fuller does make a lot of sense and playing in the reserves is the best option all round, which means it wont be adopted of course.

Second best option, behind AFL clubs fielding their reserves in Someone Else's Competition.

Agreed best option for sa football. Would like to know reasons why crows/power are against the idea.

I know some port fans who agree reserves is the best option for all.

I didn't hear right but I think the crows stated tonight if they are not in the league comp then ammo's is where they are going.

[on the rails]

No Rob Chapman said outside AAMI before the meeting if their proposal is rejected then they will look at Plan B. It is only the hysterical media suggesting that is one of their options although I think they mentioned it as a scare tactic a few weeks back?

The Crows are against having their Reserves side play in our Reserves Comp if that ends up what the SANFL clubs want so they could hardly seek to play in the Ammo's which is an even lower standard again!

[Jim05]

Why would the ammos want them?

[Agile]

Isn't this just a meeting to listen to the Cows propaganda and more lies from Alberton?

Am I correct thinking there will be no decisions made yet (until licence issues are finalised)?

Correct on all three.

[Aerie]

Aerie you normally make sense and whilst it is well structured the idea is absurd.

Yeah, I really hope none of this happens as I can't see a good scenario coming from Reserves in the SANFL league.

But... looking at it from the perspective of best case scenario for football in SA if Reserves must be admitted in the league comp, I stand by my absurd idea.

Looking at it from an Eagles perspective, I would rather beat or lose to Port if they are at full strength than beat or lose to them if they have a dozen AFL players and 10 nuffy's making up the rest of their side. That's what both sides would be if they go with the Crows model.

[kickinit]

Why would the ammos want them?

money talks

[Mark_Beswick]

Let them play on substandard amateur league venues - One injury and they'd squeal forever...

They'd get honeymoon crowds for a few weeks then the supporters would drop off big time

Don't allow them to play any games at Adelaide Oval with significant $$$$ for the SMA back to the SANFL

They are Bluffing BIG TIME

[beenreal]

Cannot foresee the same situation occurring at Alberton, where winning Premierships will be the aim at both levels.

... thereby defeating the stated motive behind having AFL reserve teams in the first place.

The Crows proposal is all about gaining their own Reserves side playing in the League competition. It's a mercenary stance and any benefits to the SANFL are secondary in their line of thinking.

Port Adelaide simply want ALL their SANFL and AFL players at Alberton. Junior development and maintaining their link to the local community is intricately linked to their proposal.

And yet for this contribution Port Adelaide are portrayed as the bad guys in this.

[Ian]

The Crows are against having their Reserves side play in our Reserves Comp if that ends up what the SANFL clubs want so they could hardly seek to play in the Ammo's which is an even lower standard again!

I don't think the standard is that much different between Div 1 ammos and SANFL Ressies

[UK Fan]

The Crows are against having their Reserves side play in our Reserves Comp if that ends up what the SANFL clubs want so they could hardly seek to play in the Ammo's which is an even lower standard again!

I don't think the standard is that much different between Div 1 ammos and SANFL Ressies

Enjoy the away changerooms at Salisbury north.

No lap pools for u !!!

[Barto]

Cannot foresee the same situation occurring at Alberton, where winning Premierships will be the aim at both levels.

... thereby defeating the stated motive behind having AFL reserve teams in the first place.

The Crows proposal is all about gaining their own Reserves side playing in the League competition. It's a mercenary stance and any benefits to the SANFL are secondary in their line of thinking.

Port Adelaide simply want ALL their SANFL and AFL players at Alberton. Junior development and maintaining their link to the local community is intricately linked to their proposal.

And yet for this contribution Port Adelaide are portrayed as the bad guys in this.

Good luck keeping all that when you're free of the SANFL and the AFL have control of your licence.

[am Bays]

Cannot foresee the same situation occurring at Alberton, where winning Premierships will be the aim at both levels.

... thereby defeating the stated motive behind having AFL reserve teams in the first place.

The Crows proposal is all about gaining their own Reserves side playing in the League competition. It's a mercenary stance and any benefits to the SANFL are secondary in their line of thinking.

Port Adelaide simply want ALL their SANFL and AFL players at Alberton. Junior development and maintaining their link to the local community is intricately linked to their proposal.

And yet for this contribution Port Adelaide are portrayed as the bad guys in this.

Don't be so precious we both think you are equally the bad guys....

[beenreal]

Cannot foresee the same situation occurring at Alberton, where winning Premierships will be the aim at both levels.

... thereby defeating the stated motive behind having AFL reserve teams in the first place.

The Crows proposal is all about gaining their own Reserves side playing in the League competition. It's a mercenary stance and any benefits to the SANFL are secondary in their line of thinking.

Port Adelaide simply want ALL their SANFL and AFL players at Alberton. Junior development and maintaining their link to the local community is intricately linked to their proposal.

And yet for this contribution Port Adelaide are portrayed as the bad guys in this.

Good luck keeping all that when you're free of the SANFL and the AFL have control of your licence.

The AFL already approved the ONE CLUB structure when it was implemented due to the financial benefits it produced.