AFL Reserves Discussion...

[kickinit]

Good read re the AFL situation but nothing new to what most of us already knew but it sums up in one place all the possible options (+ and - parts ) to this point. I guess by the time next week comes out we may have a clearer idea of the AFL Clubs proposed models and the likely vote based on that. I believe the PAFC will present a "watered down" version of their main wish list to try and satisfy the SANFL sceptics and those clubs that will vote no but at the end of the day both proposals have to be the same and that means Port virtually have to offer up the Magpies and that structure as a casualty just to get a look in.

why do they have to be the same. If port keep their jnr sides and reserves side it will not give them any extra advantage then the crows.

[PhilH]

You are spot on OTR about nothing really new especially for those who have followed this closely.

For some of our readers who have been getting limited info or info from one source hopefully it gives a broader perspective.

It is a starting point for something further next week.

and it should put a few of the wilder ideas into perspective.


Crows and Power have been approached to provide their own submission which they have agreed to do once they have talked to the clubs. ie for next weeks issue.

[Choaty]

Not sure if this has been contributed to this discussion yet, but here were Ron Fuller's thoughts back in Feb 2012 as per his blog:

AFL Reserves

Wednesday 8 February - By Ronny's Blog



Hello to everyone and welcome to another on coming football season.

I have been asked to start some blogging to kick the year off and I thought I would start with a topical subject to get things going.

The question of our two AFL clubs having reserves teams in the SANFL is being raised again and it has also led to some interesting conversations around the traps.

As I mentioned last year, I personally don’t have a problem with it as long as it doesn’t compromise the SANFL competition.

It is a difficult to imagine how it can’t be compromised in some way though.

One way it wouldn’t be however is to have the AFL reserves play in the SANFL reserves competition.

Obviously the standard won’t be as high as they would wish but they are primarily about development and the SANFL reserves competition is very much a development grade.

The AFL clubs have no problem with their players fronting up in the reserves when their allocated team has the bye and it would give them total control of their list if they were in charge of all their players.

They would have to find about 12 to 16 players to form a top up squad but that would be easy.

Many amateur or country players would love to get involved in an AFL club but still be connected to the local club if not required at any time.

Another positive would be that the SANFL lists would be divided into 8 clubs instead of 9, which ought to mean the lists and reserves lists in particular, would be stronger, resulting in a better competition too.

This higher profile for the reserves would make it more appealing to stay in the SANFL system as well, which has to be a good thing, rather than losing a lot of players to amateur or country football for money and less commitment.

This thinking might enable clubs to pay a little more to the reserves players as a result of this compromise too which would also help to improve the level.

There are a few logistical problems like a different draw for the reserves but these are minor compared to the alternatives.

It would bring a different complexion to our league without clubs worrying about any drastic changes to their current format.

[kickinit]

Not sure if this has been contributed to this discussion yet, but here were Ron Fuller's thoughts back in Feb 2012 as per his blog:

AFL Reserves

Wednesday 8 February - By Ronny's Blog



Hello to everyone and welcome to another on coming football season.

I have been asked to start some blogging to kick the year off and I thought I would start with a topical subject to get things going.

The question of our two AFL clubs having reserves teams in the SANFL is being raised again and it has also led to some interesting conversations around the traps.

As I mentioned last year, I personally don’t have a problem with it as long as it doesn’t compromise the SANFL competition.

It is a difficult to imagine how it can’t be compromised in some way though.

One way it wouldn’t be however is to have the AFL reserves play in the SANFL reserves competition.

Obviously the standard won’t be as high as they would wish but they are primarily about development and the SANFL reserves competition is very much a development grade.

The AFL clubs have no problem with their players fronting up in the reserves when their allocated team has the bye and it would give them total control of their list if they were in charge of all their players.

They would have to find about 12 to 16 players to form a top up squad but that would be easy.

Many amateur or country players would love to get involved in an AFL club but still be connected to the local club if not required at any time.

Another positive would be that the SANFL lists would be divided into 8 clubs instead of 9, which ought to mean the lists and reserves lists in particular, would be stronger, resulting in a better competition too.

This higher profile for the reserves would make it more appealing to stay in the SANFL system as well, which has to be a good thing, rather than losing a lot of players to amateur or country football for money and less commitment.

This thinking might enable clubs to pay a little more to the reserves players as a result of this compromise too which would also help to improve the level.

There are a few logistical problems like a different draw for the reserves but these are minor compared to the alternatives.

It would bring a different complexion to our league without clubs worrying about any drastic changes to their current format.

would it be more appealing? players that are fringe league players could get fed up playing in a comp were 2 teams dominate each week. Seeing more players leaving for amateur footy, making the reserves comp weaker and could compromise the quality of the league comp. The only way I can see the comp not being compromised is leaving it the way it is.

[Barto]

Fuller does make a lot of sense and playing in the reserves is the best option all round, which means it wont be adopted of course.

[on the rails]

Fuller does make a lot of sense and playing in the reserves is the best option all round, which means it wont be adopted of course.

That is what Rucci proposed as a model and would be the only one I could accept if we have to house them in our comp.

[Booney]

Meeting on now? Either way..will be another historical night at West Lakes.

[tigers34738586]

Don't think they should be in the reserves either, they don't want to be owned by the SANFL, but want to be in our comp..... hypocrites... stuff em...their problem

[Booney]

Didn't see any protesters on the C9 news cross from Footy Park?

[CENTURION]

Didn't see any protesters on the C9 news cross from Footy Park?

not needed.

[kickinit]

Didn't see any protesters on the C9 news cross from Footy Park?

not needed.

in other words it was too wet for you to go out.

[therisingblues]

Didn't see any protesters on the C9 news cross from Footy Park?

One minute we are over reacting, next you reckon we aren't reacting enough.
Make up yer bloody mind!

[Ian]

Isn't this just a meeting to listen to the Cows propaganda and more lies from Alberton?

Am I correct thinking there will be no decisions made yet (until licence issues are finalised)?

[LPH]

No decision tonight

[Booney]

Isn't this just a meeting to listen to the Cows propaganda and more lies from Alberton?

Am I correct thinking there will be no decisions made yet (until licence issues are finalised)?

Important meeting nonetheless.

[CENTURION]

Didn't see any protesters on the C9 news cross from Footy Park?

not needed.

in other words it was too wet for you to go out.

did I see anyone down there FOR AFL reserves in The SANFL?
Once again, not needed, it's only a preliminary meeting.

[CENTURION]

=D>

No decision tonight

exactly.

[kickinit]

Isn't this just a meeting to listen to the Cows propaganda and more lies from Alberton?

Am I correct thinking there will be no decisions made yet (until licence issues are finalised)?

I read this and then saw you support Essendon

[Dutchy]

Norwood reiterated that will be NO voters, any others made a public declaration yet?

[Pseudo]

Cannot foresee the same situation occurring at Alberton, where winning Premierships will be the aim at both levels.

... thereby defeating the stated motive behind having AFL reserve teams in the first place.