2013 Federal election - Rudd sets date as 7th September

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shoe boy wrote:Now Tony and co can we have some policy's????


Abbott has plenty of "policy's" he's already announced. Carbon tax, NBN, illegal boats are some of the major things he's already made announcements regarding. Coupled with getting the economy back to a healthy bottom line I don't need to see much else but there is a lot more out there if you'll look.
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Grahaml wrote:
shoe boy wrote:Now Tony and co can we have some policy's????


Abbott has plenty of "policy's" he's already announced. Carbon tax, NBN, illegal boats are some of the major things he's already made announcements regarding. Coupled with getting the economy back to a healthy bottom line I don't need to see much else but there is a lot more out there if you'll look.

don't forget work choices... :roll:
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Lol. The old chestnut Labor fans bring up when they have nothing else. Most of work choices got reinstated under Gillard bit by bit because the vast majority was good. The few aspects that were particularly unpopular will not be touched by the Liberals for some time, whether they like them or not. The landscape is different now too with many industries not trying to find workers but instead more likely to reduce their workforce. But keep trying, I'm sure there are one or two other Labor die hards around that still believe.
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All last night has done has changed the size of the margin.

With Gillard they were looking at losing 30-40 seats, now it is only 15-20.
Let that be a lesson to you Port, no one beats the Bays five times in a row in a GF and gets away with it!!!
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am Bays wrote:All last night has done has changed the size of the margin.

With Gillard they were looking at losing 30-40 seats, now it is only 15-20.


Come on, mate.

Let us bask in giddy delusion for at least 24 hours.

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am Bays wrote:All last night has done has changed the size of the margin.

With Gillard they were looking at losing 30-40 seats, now it is only 15-20.


That is an optimistic estimate.
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Has Abbott said how he's going to stop the boats?
I heard him repeating that mantra this morning.
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Q. wrote:
am Bays wrote:All last night has done has changed the size of the margin.

With Gillard they were looking at losing 30-40 seats, now it is only 15-20.


That is an optimistic estimate.


Mate even if it's only 10 seats It will give him a working majority of 20 and as Eddie Ward once said doesn't matter if it's one, five or 20 votes when you win - when quizzed once when he won a narrow vote in politics. Not sure if that is the correct quote but it is stated correctly in the following tome Curtain to Hawke - Fred Daly.

The most significant thing of alst night is that it probably means the Coalition won't get majority control of the Senate, which even as a Liberal voter I think is a good thing. Protects them from themselves.
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Magpiespower wrote:Kinda know what it's like to be a Glenelg supporter now.

The neverending despair...

:lol:


You cal it despair, I call it hope.....
Let that be a lesson to you Port, no one beats the Bays five times in a row in a GF and gets away with it!!!
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am Bays wrote:
Q. wrote:
am Bays wrote:All last night has done has changed the size of the margin.

With Gillard they were looking at losing 30-40 seats, now it is only 15-20.


That is an optimistic estimate.


Mate even if it's only 10 seats It will give him a working majority of 20 and as Eddie Ward once said doesn't matter if it's one, five or 20 votes when you win - when quizzed once when he won a narrow vote in politics. Not sure if that is the correct quote but it is stated correctly in the following tome Curtain to Hawke - Fred Daly.

The most significant thing of alst night is that it probably means the Coalition won't get majority control of the Senate, which even as a Liberal voter I think is a good thing. Protects them from themselves.


Yep, a good thing for all of us.
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Dogwatcher wrote:Has Abbott said how he's going to stop the boats?
I heard him repeating that mantra this morning.


That 'topic' will fall by the wayside after the election.
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Q. wrote:
Dogwatcher wrote:Has Abbott said how he's going to stop the boats?
I heard him repeating that mantra this morning.


That 'topic' will fall by the wayside after the election.



the boats will never be stopped under whoever runs the country, end of story. People who want a better lifestyle will always come , well try to come here. It will never be stopped.
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Bully wrote:
Q. wrote:
Dogwatcher wrote:Has Abbott said how he's going to stop the boats?
I heard him repeating that mantra this morning.


That 'topic' will fall by the wayside after the election.



the boats will never be stopped under whoever runs the country, end of story. People who want a better lifestyle will always come , well try to come here. It will never be stopped.


The people who 'want a better lifestyle' arrive on planes from the UK and overstay their tourist visas.
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Doesn't make it right though Q
They chase them down and deport them as well (Refer Border Security programme)
So...a question....
Would it not be cheaper to fly in here than "spend 6 months in a leaky boat"?
Why do they choose the boat option?
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Jimmy_041 wrote:Doesn't make it right though Q
They chase them down and deport them as well (Refer Border Security programme)
So...a question....
Would it not be cheaper to fly in here than "spend 6 months in a leaky boat"?
Why do they choose the boat option?


Risk of being detained when leaving your country.

Also, without at least a tourist visa, you won't be able to board plane to destination country.
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Dogwatcher wrote:Has Abbott said how he's going to stop the boats?
I heard him repeating that mantra this morning.


I'm fairly sure he's said he'll bring back all the Howard era policies. Whether people like it or not, those policies stopped the boats. Reputation will also make a difference. This is one issue I'm confident Abbott will be able to remedy fairly quickly. Turning the economy around is the greater task and will require a lot more effort than simply reinstating known working policies.
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Grahaml wrote:
Dogwatcher wrote:Has Abbott said how he's going to stop the boats?
I heard him repeating that mantra this morning.


I'm fairly sure he's said he'll bring back all the Howard era policies. Whether people like it or not, those policies stopped the boats. Reputation will also make a difference. This is one issue I'm confident Abbott will be able to remedy fairly quickly. Turning the economy around is the greater task and will require a lot more effort than simply reinstating known working policies.


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What we DONT need, is another hung parliament
I would rather Labor get back in with a majority than go through this for another term
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Grahaml wrote:
Dogwatcher wrote:Has Abbott said how he's going to stop the boats?
I heard him repeating that mantra this morning.


I'm fairly sure he's said he'll bring back all the Howard era policies. Whether people like it or not, those policies stopped the boats. Reputation will also make a difference. This is one issue I'm confident Abbott will be able to remedy fairly quickly. Turning the economy around is the greater task and will require a lot more effort than simply reinstating known working policies.


His policy didn't stop boats. Labor's current policy is virtually identical.
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Grahaml wrote:
Dogwatcher wrote:Has Abbott said how he's going to stop the boats?
I heard him repeating that mantra this morning.


I'm fairly sure he's said he'll bring back all the Howard era policies. Whether people like it or not, those policies stopped the boats. Reputation will also make a difference. This is one issue I'm confident Abbott will be able to remedy fairly quickly. Turning the economy around is the greater task and will require a lot more effort than simply reinstating known working policies.

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Q. wrote:
Grahaml wrote:
Dogwatcher wrote:Has Abbott said how he's going to stop the boats?
I heard him repeating that mantra this morning.


I'm fairly sure he's said he'll bring back all the Howard era policies. Whether people like it or not, those policies stopped the boats. Reputation will also make a difference. This is one issue I'm confident Abbott will be able to remedy fairly quickly. Turning the economy around is the greater task and will require a lot more effort than simply reinstating known working policies.


His policy didn't stop boats. Labor's current policy is virtually identical.


I seem to remember many news stories about boats in our waters during John Howard's time.
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